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Re: The Pick Two Draft Thread
« Reply #2670 on: March 15, 2010, 03:50:46 PM »

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I like that my squad has no one any of the lists, and yet we're currently the 4th seed.  GO PISTONS!

Word is Rodney Stuckey was so surprised by the sim results that he passed out.

Tasteless, I know...

Don't get too comfortable in that 4th seed, I'm 0.5 games behind you for the central division.



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Re: The Pick Two Draft Thread
« Reply #2671 on: March 15, 2010, 03:58:40 PM »

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If any of you asked for your rotation breakdowns check your pm's. Please get back to me ASAP so I can continue on with the simularion. AS far as how the rotations are set up I pretty much went with what the game set-up after the draft except for some very minor changes. So no I was trying to screw anyone over or anything like that, its hard trying to break peoples rotations times down when you only got 240 mintues to play with.

Plam Q richardsons a starter on the heat score 8.8ppg in reality so was it really that bad that he was playing 17 minutes. K-mart being hurt at the moment was another reason y I moved him that low I belive.
I don't think anyone thinks you were trying to screw anyone riah

I think you've done a tremendous job

But you had injuries off so what does it matter if KMart was currently injured

Also, QRich may be a starter in real life but to take away minutes from a PF to give them to a SG who already had four other wings ahead of him on the depth chart just is not something I think many people would have done

No big deal, different people think differently and it's my fault for not specifying my rotation more accurately

Giving you one for the work

No hard feelings it's just I drafted my team to run differently than you originally set it up to run


Yes I turned injuries off but I got guys like Yao, Oden, Pryzbylla..etc who are out for the season not eligable to play but i figured since k-mart might come back then he can still get some mintues but I did switch it to what you wanted.

Not trying to start anything just letting you know my reasoning behind what I did.
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Re: The Pick Two Draft Thread
« Reply #2672 on: March 15, 2010, 04:00:05 PM »

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If any of you asked for your rotation breakdowns check your pm's. Please get back to me ASAP so I can continue on with the simularion. AS far as how the rotations are set up I pretty much went with what the game set-up after the draft except for some very minor changes. So no I was trying to screw anyone over or anything like that, its hard trying to break peoples rotations times down when you only got 240 mintues to play with.

Plam Q richardsons a starter on the heat score 8.8ppg in reality so was it really that bad that he was playing 17 minutes. K-mart being hurt at the moment was another reason y I moved him that low I belive.
I don't think anyone thinks you were trying to screw anyone riah

I think you've done a tremendous job

But you had injuries off so what does it matter if KMart was currently injured

Also, QRich may be a starter in real life but to take away minutes from a PF to give them to a SG who already had four other wings ahead of him on the depth chart just is not something I think many people would have done

No big deal, different people think differently and it's my fault for not specifying my rotation more accurately

Giving you one for the work

No hard feelings it's just I drafted my team to run differently than you originally set it up to run


I really don't think you grasp the amount of work he's putting in here.

What he's not saying is that in NBA 2k10, there are roles assigned to players. On top of that there is a way to manually assign minutes.

The roles are: Starter, Sixth Man, Role Player, Prospect, Bench Warmer

Each role comes with a mish-mash of assumptions regarding minutes, and each role can further even be broken down to like:

Starter, I want you to be the star of this team
Starter, You're replaceable if a better option comes along
Starter, Your position as a starter is guaranteed

So for instance, I made up this table when we were talking about the draft:

Minutes Breakdown:

Role  Player       Position 1MPGPosition 2MPG Total MPG
Starter      Devin Harris        PG           27.5SG            7.034.5
Starter      Thabo Sefelosha     SG           22.5SF            2.024.5
Starter          Omri Casspi          SF           25.0PF            2.027.0
Starter          Luis Scola           PF           25.0C            6.531.5
Starter          Brook Lopez          C            31.0None          0.031.0
Sixth Man        Ersan Ilyasova       PF           16.0SF           12.028.0
Rotation Player  Wes Matthews         SG           18.5None          0.018.5
Rotation Player  Will Bynum           PG           15.5None          0.015.5
Rotation Player  Darius Songaila      PF            5.0C            5.010.0
Rotation Player  Dorell Wright        SF            9.0PF            0.0  9.0
Role Player      David Andersen       C            5.5None          0.0  5.5
Role Player      Eric Maynor          PG            5.0None          0.0  5.0
Role Player       Billy Thomas          SG            0.0None          0.0 0.0

I sent this amended (in 2k10 language) table to Riah:

Role     Player                    Total MPG
Starter         Devin Harris           34.5
Starter         Thabo Sefelosha        24.5
Starter         Omri Casspi             27
Starter         Luis Scola              31.5
Starter         Brook Lopez             31
Sixth Man       Ersan Ilyasova          28
Sixth Man   Wes Matthews            18.5
Sixth Man   Will Bynum              15.5
Role Player   Darius Songaila         10
Role Player   Dorell Wright           9
Bench Warmer   David Andersen          5.5
prospect   Eric Maynor             5
Bench Warmer    Billy Thomas             0

Each player has a different personality. Each player has a different rating, and each player will accept a less role differently, which will affect my teams' performance.

For instance, Dorrell Wright might fancy himself a role player, but he might 'want' more than 9 mins per game, because his player rating is like 74 or 75. So, his moral would drop, bringing him down to like a 71 or something.

There is a crap ton of stuff that goes into first assembling the roster, then managing it. If any of you have xbox live and have my gamertag, you know its not a rare site to see me online messing around with that stuff at like 2 or 3 am on a wednesday. It's a ton of fun actually.

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Re: The Pick Two Draft Thread
« Reply #2673 on: March 15, 2010, 04:03:38 PM »

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I like that my squad has no one any of the lists, and yet we're currently the 4th seed.  GO PISTONS!

Word is Rodney Stuckey was so surprised by the sim results that he passed out.

Tasteless, I know...

Don't get too comfortable in that 4th seed, I'm 0.5 games behind you for the central division.



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Re: The Pick Two Draft Thread
« Reply #2674 on: March 15, 2010, 04:09:50 PM »

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If any of you asked for your rotation breakdowns check your pm's. Please get back to me ASAP so I can continue on with the simularion. AS far as how the rotations are set up I pretty much went with what the game set-up after the draft except for some very minor changes. So no I was trying to screw anyone over or anything like that, its hard trying to break peoples rotations times down when you only got 240 mintues to play with.

Plam Q richardsons a starter on the heat score 8.8ppg in reality so was it really that bad that he was playing 17 minutes. K-mart being hurt at the moment was another reason y I moved him that low I belive.
I don't think anyone thinks you were trying to screw anyone riah

I think you've done a tremendous job

But you had injuries off so what does it matter if KMart was currently injured

Also, QRich may be a starter in real life but to take away minutes from a PF to give them to a SG who already had four other wings ahead of him on the depth chart just is not something I think many people would have done

No big deal, different people think differently and it's my fault for not specifying my rotation more accurately

Giving you one for the work

No hard feelings it's just I drafted my team to run differently than you originally set it up to run


I really don't think you grasp the amount of work he's putting in here.

What he's not saying is that in NBA 2k10, there are roles assigned to players. On top of that there is a way to manually assign minutes.

The roles are: Starter, Sixth Man, Role Player, Prospect, Bench Warmer

Each role comes with a mish-mash of assumptions regarding minutes, and each role can further even be broken down to like:

Starter, I want you to be the star of this team
Starter, You're replaceable if a better option comes along
Starter, Your position as a starter is guaranteed

So for instance, I made up this table when we were talking about the draft:

Minutes Breakdown:

Role  Player       Position 1MPGPosition 2MPG Total MPG
Starter      Devin Harris        PG           27.5SG            7.034.5
Starter      Thabo Sefelosha     SG           22.5SF            2.024.5
Starter          Omri Casspi          SF           25.0PF            2.027.0
Starter          Luis Scola           PF           25.0C            6.531.5
Starter          Brook Lopez          C            31.0None          0.031.0
Sixth Man        Ersan Ilyasova       PF           16.0SF           12.028.0
Rotation Player  Wes Matthews         SG           18.5None          0.018.5
Rotation Player  Will Bynum           PG           15.5None          0.015.5
Rotation Player  Darius Songaila      PF            5.0C            5.010.0
Rotation Player  Dorell Wright        SF            9.0PF            0.0  9.0
Role Player      David Andersen       C            5.5None          0.0  5.5
Role Player      Eric Maynor          PG            5.0None          0.0  5.0
Role Player       Billy Thomas          SG            0.0None          0.0 0.0

I sent this amended (in 2k10 language) table to Riah:

Role     Player                    Total MPG
Starter         Devin Harris           34.5
Starter         Thabo Sefelosha        24.5
Starter         Omri Casspi             27
Starter         Luis Scola              31.5
Starter         Brook Lopez             31
Sixth Man       Ersan Ilyasova          28
Sixth Man   Wes Matthews            18.5
Sixth Man   Will Bynum              15.5
Role Player   Darius Songaila         10
Role Player   Dorell Wright           9
Bench Warmer   David Andersen          5.5
prospect   Eric Maynor             5
Bench Warmer    Billy Thomas             0

Each player has a different personality. Each player has a different rating, and each player will accept a less role differently, which will affect my teams' performance.

For instance, Dorrell Wright might fancy himself a role player, but he might 'want' more than 9 mins per game, because his player rating is like 74 or 75. So, his moral would drop, bringing him down to like a 71 or something.

There is a crap ton of stuff that goes into first assembling the roster, then managing it. If any of you have xbox live and have my gamertag, you know its not a rare site to see me online messing around with that stuff at like 2 or 3 am on a wednesday. It's a ton of fun actually.

Another glitch in the game is that after I changed X amount of guys roles I couldn't change the roles for players on other teams so I had to just adjust mintues the best I could.
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Re: The Pick Two Draft Thread
« Reply #2675 on: March 15, 2010, 04:25:36 PM »

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If I dont here back from the few people that request there mintues roatation by 7:30 east standard time I will sim the next month at that time.
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Re: The Pick Two Draft Thread
« Reply #2676 on: March 15, 2010, 04:38:07 PM »

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So putting a player in a role dictates the minutes?

It makes sense for simplicity but seems to skew things away from reality

Then again it is a game so what the heck does reality have to do with anything

Hehehe
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SF: Grant Hill, Matt Barnes, D
PF: Zach Randolph, Kenyon Martin, Jon Brockman, Dante Cunningham
C:  Nene Hilario,   Own rights: Nikola Pekovic IR: Kyle Weaver

Re: The Pick Two Draft Thread
« Reply #2677 on: March 15, 2010, 04:50:46 PM »

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So putting a player in a role dictates the minutes?

It makes sense for simplicity but seems to skew things away from reality

Then again it is a game so what the heck does reality have to do with anything

Hehehe

Well like I said it's kinda complicated. Like on my team, I have Thabo Sefolosha and Wes Matthews. Now I anticipate playing both of them roughly the same amount of minutes. However, I'd list Matthews as a sixth man and Thabo as the starter, because Matthews is just a rookie, and he's happy to be here. Thabo on the other hand would be angry if he wasn't a starter at this point in his career.

Roles are easy tools to automatically reset your roster's minutes, but they're also useful in manipulating player moral.

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Re: The Pick Two Draft Thread
« Reply #2678 on: March 15, 2010, 04:53:28 PM »

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So putting a player in a role dictates the minutes?

It makes sense for simplicity but seems to skew things away from reality

Then again it is a game so what the heck does reality have to do with anything

Hehehe

Like on your team, K-Mart, Barnes, Richardson are all probably low in moral because they're either not starting or not sixth men with starters minutes.

Whereas on my team, we toe a fine balance between maximizing our current players and maximizing our talent.

The 8th seed, the Nyets way.

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Re: The Pick Two Draft Thread
« Reply #2679 on: March 15, 2010, 05:02:47 PM »

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So putting a player in a role dictates the minutes?

It makes sense for simplicity but seems to skew things away from reality

Then again it is a game so what the heck does reality have to do with anything

Hehehe

Like on your team, K-Mart, Barnes, Richardson are all probably low in moral because they're either not starting or not sixth men with starters minutes.

Whereas on my team, we toe a fine balance between maximizing our current players and maximizing our talent.

The 8th seed, the Nyets way.
That's just it K-Mart would be my sixth man at 28 minutes Barnes would be my 7th man at 24 minutes and Ty Lawson my 8th man at 18 minutes, with QRich riding pine but the roles that the computer, or riah, put them into had their minutes all messed up

Live and learn if there is ever another sim, I will have to be more specific
Pick 2 Knicks

PG: George Hill, Ty Lawson
SG: Ray Allen, Anthony Parker, Quentin Richardson
SF: Grant Hill, Matt Barnes, D
PF: Zach Randolph, Kenyon Martin, Jon Brockman, Dante Cunningham
C:  Nene Hilario,   Own rights: Nikola Pekovic IR: Kyle Weaver

Re: The Pick Two Draft Thread
« Reply #2680 on: March 16, 2010, 05:02:29 PM »

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Standings as of April 1st-
Atlantic Division:
Sixers:39-36
Raptors:35-39
Nets:35-40
Knicks:34-40
Celtics:28-46

Central Division:
Pistons:38-36
Pacers:37-38
Cavaliers:35-40
Bucks:34-40
Bulls:28-46

Southeast Division:
Wizards:43-31
Heat:41-34
Bobcats:40-34
Magic:38-36
Hawks:38-36

Southwest Division:
Spurs:53-21
Mavericks:52-23
Grizzlies:37-37
Rockets:37-37
Hornets:38-38

Northwest Division:
Nuggets:50-25
Jazz:47-29
Thunder:40-34
Trail Blazers:34-41
T-Wolves:27-48

Pacific:
Suns:47-28
Lakers:37-38
Kings:31-45
Clippers:29-46
Warriors:15-57

Eastern Conference:
1.Wizards
2.Heat
3.76ers
4.Pistons
5.Bobcats
6.Magic
7.Hawks
8.Pacers
9.Raptors
10.Cavaliers
11.Nets
12.Bucks
13.Knicks
14.Celtics
15.Bulls

Western Conference:
1.Spurs
2.Mavericks
3.Nuggets
4.Suns
5.Jazz
6.Thunder
7.Hornets
8.Grizzlies
9.Rockets
10.Lakers
11.Trail Blazers
12.Kings
13.Clippers
14.T-Wolves
15.Warriors


Players of the Month:
East:Lebron   West:CP3

Players of the week:
East first two weeks:Lebron Last 2 weeks:D Wade
West Weeks 1,3,4-Kobe   Week 2:CP3

Rookies of the Month:
East: Stephen Curry West:Tyreke Evans

MVP:
1.Dirk
2.Tim Duncan
3.Stephen Jackson
4.Deron Williams
5.Melo

Rookie of the year:
1.Tyreke Evans
2.Steph Curry
3.Brandon Jennings
4.Jonny Flynn
5.Darren Collison

6th Man:
1.Manu
2.Kenyon Martin
3.Will Bynum
4.Mike Conley
5.Rodney Stuckey

defensive player of the year:
1.Gerald Wallace
2.Josh Smith
3.Dwight Howard
4.Lebron
5.Pau Gasol

Most Improved Player:
1.Gallinari
2.Chris Douglas-Roberts
3.Will Bynum
4.Aaron Brooks
5.Monta Ellis


Enjoy!-Simming till start of playoffs tomm

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Re: The Pick Two Draft Thread
« Reply #2681 on: March 16, 2010, 05:09:54 PM »

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Meh.  I'm assuming the computer is using retarded rotations for my team, there are injuries, or the players just aren't putting up stats they're capable of putting up.  2k Sims are odd.
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Re: The Pick Two Draft Thread
« Reply #2682 on: March 16, 2010, 05:21:21 PM »

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Re: The Pick Two Draft Thread
« Reply #2683 on: March 16, 2010, 05:31:17 PM »

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Re: The Pick Two Draft Thread
« Reply #2684 on: March 16, 2010, 05:38:17 PM »

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Gallo as MIP and Rose and DeMarcus Cousins in the draft, David Lee is officially on the block.