Anyone know what we offered for Nate?

[divo0oneh]

Boston Gets:
Nate
Chandler

NY Gets
TA
Giddens
Sheldon
2010 or 2011 1st round pick
2010 2nd round pick


I think thats a fare deal! Chandler will probably lose his spot to either Gallinari or Lebron or whoever they sign so whats the point of staying there? NY gets cap relief, picks and we can throw in Walker if they want talent back as well! but ainge should push for Chandler!

C's would be soo deep they'll look scary!

Remember ppl talk **** about Nate alot but how many PGs can average 13ppg and 3apg off the bench? with the ability to both create and score? you might wanna think about that for a moment!

Paul Pierce is looking better after that surgery Ray Allen looks the same to me and hopefully KG can get back to looking like the old KG maybe not as good but at least 85% or 90% to what he use to be would be good! Rondo and Perk are playing great the only problem we have is depth issues! and with a backup PG Daniels can score his 13ppg that he use to average off the bench in Indiana and House can play his natural role which will increase their effectiveness!

[P2]

Boston Gets:
Nate
Chandler

NY Gets
TA
Giddens
Sheldon
2010 or 2011 1st round pick
2010 2nd round pick


I think thats a fare deal! Chandler will probably lose his spot to either Gallinari or Lebron or whoever they sign so whats the point of staying there? NY gets cap relief, picks and we can throw in Walker if they want talent back as well! but ainge should push for Chandler!

C's would be soo deep they'll look scary!

Remember ppl talk **** about Nate alot but how many PGs can average 13ppg and 3apg off the bench? with the ability to both create and score? you might wanna think about that for a moment!

Paul Pierce is looking better after that surgery Ray Allen looks the same to me and hopefully KG can get back to looking like the old KG maybe not as good but at least 85% or 90% to what he use to be would be good! Rondo and Perk are playing great the only problem we have is depth issues! and with a backup PG Daniels can score his 13ppg that he use to average off the bench in Indiana and House can play his natural role which will increase their effectiveness!

That would be a heck of a deal for us? But why does New York do this?

[PosImpos]

Boston Gets:
Nate
Chandler

NY Gets
TA
Giddens
Sheldon
2010 or 2011 1st round pick
2010 2nd round pick


I think thats a fare deal! Chandler will probably lose his spot to either Gallinari or Lebron or whoever they sign so whats the point of staying there? NY gets cap relief, picks and we can throw in Walker if they want talent back as well! but ainge should push for Chandler!

C's would be soo deep they'll look scary!

Remember ppl talk **** about Nate alot but how many PGs can average 13ppg and 3apg off the bench? with the ability to both create and score? you might wanna think about that for a moment!

Paul Pierce is looking better after that surgery Ray Allen looks the same to me and hopefully KG can get back to looking like the old KG maybe not as good but at least 85% or 90% to what he use to be would be good! Rondo and Perk are playing great the only problem we have is depth issues! and with a backup PG Daniels can score his 13ppg that he use to average off the bench in Indiana and House can play his natural role which will increase their effectiveness!

That would be a heck of a deal for us? But why does New York do this?

They wouldn't.  I don't think we'd need to throw in Shelden, either.  We'd need to be taking back Jeffries or Curry in order for the Knicks to trade us Chandler.

[divo0oneh]

Boston Gets:
Nate
Chandler

NY Gets
TA
Giddens
Sheldon
2010 or 2011 1st round pick
2010 2nd round pick


I think thats a fare deal! Chandler will probably lose his spot to either Gallinari or Lebron or whoever they sign so whats the point of staying there? NY gets cap relief, picks and we can throw in Walker if they want talent back as well! but ainge should push for Chandler!

C's would be soo deep they'll look scary!

Remember ppl talk **** about Nate alot but how many PGs can average 13ppg and 3apg off the bench? with the ability to both create and score? you might wanna think about that for a moment!

Paul Pierce is looking better after that surgery Ray Allen looks the same to me and hopefully KG can get back to looking like the old KG maybe not as good but at least 85% or 90% to what he use to be would be good! Rondo and Perk are playing great the only problem we have is depth issues! and with a backup PG Daniels can score his 13ppg that he use to average off the bench in Indiana and House can play his natural role which will increase their effectiveness!

That would be a heck of a deal for us? But why does New York do this?

Nate doesn't wanna be there he already said he wanted to be a Celtic! and they get expirings which is what they want and draft picks! it helps their rebuilding process and their ability to sign 2 big free agents this summer!


They may not give up Chandler but im just saying maybe Ainge can pull him out of the deal since the C's will send 2 picks and Chandler will most likely be out of their lineup when they sign either Lebron or Wade! remember Gallinari and Chandler play the same position and Gallinari is the #1 3 pt shooter in the league so that makes Chandler expandable in D`antoni's system.

[dlpin]

Boston Gets:
Nate
Chandler

NY Gets
TA
Giddens
Sheldon
2010 or 2011 1st round pick
2010 2nd round pick


I think thats a fare deal! Chandler will probably lose his spot to either Gallinari or Lebron or whoever they sign so whats the point of staying there? NY gets cap relief, picks and we can throw in Walker if they want talent back as well! but ainge should push for Chandler!

C's would be soo deep they'll look scary!

Remember ppl talk **** about Nate alot but how many PGs can average 13ppg and 3apg off the bench? with the ability to both create and score? you might wanna think about that for a moment!

Paul Pierce is looking better after that surgery Ray Allen looks the same to me and hopefully KG can get back to looking like the old KG maybe not as good but at least 85% or 90% to what he use to be would be good! Rondo and Perk are playing great the only problem we have is depth issues! and with a backup PG Daniels can score his 13ppg that he use to average off the bench in Indiana and House can play his natural role which will increase their effectiveness!

That would be a heck of a deal for us? But why does New York do this?

Nate doesn't wanna be there he already said he wanted to be a Celtic! and they get expirings which is what they want and draft picks! it helps their rebuilding process and their ability to sign 2 big free agents this summer!


They may not give up Chandler but im just saying maybe Ainge can pull him out of the deal since the C's will send 2 picks and Chandler will most likely be out of their lineup when they sign either Lebron or Wade! remember Gallinari and Chandler play the same position and Gallinari is the #1 3 pt shooter in the league so that makes Chandler expandable in D`antoni's system.

This makes no sense. The only cap relief that they would get in your deal would be dealing Chandler, who is set to make a bit over 2 mill next season. So they would trade nate robinson and one of their top young players to get 2 mill in cap relief, which would still leave them with Jeffries and Curry in their roster, and no way to get rid of them...

In other words, in your scenario the knicks would deal a very decent and affordable young player to a division rival, in the process rejuvenating said rival, in order to save 2 mill?

Chance of anything remotely close to this happening in reality is zero.

[divo0oneh]

Boston Gets:
Nate
Chandler

NY Gets
TA
Giddens
Sheldon
2010 or 2011 1st round pick
2010 2nd round pick


I think thats a fare deal! Chandler will probably lose his spot to either Gallinari or Lebron or whoever they sign so whats the point of staying there? NY gets cap relief, picks and we can throw in Walker if they want talent back as well! but ainge should push for Chandler!

C's would be soo deep they'll look scary!

Remember ppl talk **** about Nate alot but how many PGs can average 13ppg and 3apg off the bench? with the ability to both create and score? you might wanna think about that for a moment!

Paul Pierce is looking better after that surgery Ray Allen looks the same to me and hopefully KG can get back to looking like the old KG maybe not as good but at least 85% or 90% to what he use to be would be good! Rondo and Perk are playing great the only problem we have is depth issues! and with a backup PG Daniels can score his 13ppg that he use to average off the bench in Indiana and House can play his natural role which will increase their effectiveness!

That would be a heck of a deal for us? But why does New York do this?

Nate doesn't wanna be there he already said he wanted to be a Celtic! and they get expirings which is what they want and draft picks! it helps their rebuilding process and their ability to sign 2 big free agents this summer!


They may not give up Chandler but im just saying maybe Ainge can pull him out of the deal since the C's will send 2 picks and Chandler will most likely be out of their lineup when they sign either Lebron or Wade! remember Gallinari and Chandler play the same position and Gallinari is the #1 3 pt shooter in the league so that makes Chandler expandable in D`antoni's system.

This makes no sense. The only cap relief that they would get in your deal would be dealing Chandler, who is set to make a bit over 2 mill next season. So they would trade nate robinson and one of their top young players to get 2 mill in cap relief, which would still leave them with Jeffries and Curry in their roster, and no way to get rid of them...

In other words, in your scenario the knicks would deal a very decent and affordable young player to a division rival, in the process rejuvenating said rival, in order to save 2 mill?

Chance of anything remotely close to this happening in reality is zero.

Im just saying there is a chance but if you wanna pay 2 max contracts to 2 players this summer you might need that 2mil that were talking about

[dlpin]

Im just saying there is a chance but if you wanna pay 2 max contracts to 2 players this summer you might need that 2mil that were talking about

The 2 million make little to no difference in signing two max deal players, and Chandler is one of the few things of value that they can use to get rid of the real problems they would have in signing two max players; Jeffries and Curry.

So again, the chance of the knick reloading the celtics with a young and cheap Chandler and Nate robinson in exchange for 2 mill of cap relief is absolutely zero.

[moiso]

Mostly though, I just can't think of any player in the NBA that I dislike more than Nate Robinson.  And that is including guys like Kobe.  Maybe it is irrational, but IMO, he stands for everything that is wrong with the NBA, and will never be a "winner".

I'd put the list at Kobe, Starbury, and then maybe a guy like Nate.

Rasheed is number one on my list, and he's already in green.

[blake]

Do we get extra money if he wins the dunk contest?  If so, take him and dump him after the allstar weekend.

[Brickowski]

Given that Nate is a BYC player, I cannor construct a deal that makes sense. Memphis would have to be involved, but the Grizz, who are contending for a playoff spot, are rumored to have already turned down a deal for Robinson.

[RAcker]

Dennis Johnson & Tiny Archibald were questionable characters before they arrived in Boston...I think they worked out just fine. 

Nate wants to be here...it's a veteran team that has a different culture / atmosphere than the Knicks.  We NEED him on this team...I can't imagine how much better the bench would be with him on this team.  He's a dynamic player who will only make this team better.  And waiting on Daniels (who I'd rather see on the wing anyway) is a moot point.  Get Nate - he can only make this team better and fills a much needed void on this roster.

Andy Jick is back!

[ssspence]

Dennis Johnson & Tiny Archibald were questionable characters before they arrived in Boston...I think they worked out just fine. 

Nate wants to be here...it's a veteran team that has a different culture / atmosphere than the Knicks.  We NEED him on this team...I can't imagine how much better the bench would be with him on this team.  He's a dynamic player who will only make this team better.  And waiting on Daniels (who I'd rather see on the wing anyway) is a moot point.  Get Nate - he can only make this team better and fills a much needed void on this roster.

Andy Jick is back!

I noticed the same. Welcome back, Daniel Plainview...

[ssspence]

Boston Gets:
Nate
Chandler

NY Gets
TA
Giddens
Sheldon
2010 or 2011 1st round pick
2010 2nd round pick


I think thats a fare deal! Chandler will probably lose his spot to either Gallinari or Lebron or whoever they sign so whats the point of staying there? NY gets cap relief, picks and we can throw in Walker if they want talent back as well! but ainge should push for Chandler!

C's would be soo deep they'll look scary!

Remember ppl talk **** about Nate alot but how many PGs can average 13ppg and 3apg off the bench? with the ability to both create and score? you might wanna think about that for a moment!

Paul Pierce is looking better after that surgery Ray Allen looks the same to me and hopefully KG can get back to looking like the old KG maybe not as good but at least 85% or 90% to what he use to be would be good! Rondo and Perk are playing great the only problem we have is depth issues! and with a backup PG Daniels can score his 13ppg that he use to average off the bench in Indiana and House can play his natural role which will increase their effectiveness!

That would be a heck of a deal for us? But why does New York do this?

They wouldn't.  I don't think we'd need to throw in Shelden, either.  We'd need to be taking back Jeffries or Curry in order for the Knicks to trade us Chandler.

Even if we take Jeffries, I'm skeptical they'll give up Chandler. He's their best player under contract for 2010.

He'd be an outstanding fit off the Cs bench. He can defend 2s, 3s and 4s while hitting 3s ala Posey.

[winsomme]

Boston Gets:
Nate
Chandler

NY Gets
TA
Giddens
Sheldon
2010 or 2011 1st round pick
2010 2nd round pick


I think thats a fare deal! Chandler will probably lose his spot to either Gallinari or Lebron or whoever they sign so whats the point of staying there? NY gets cap relief, picks and we can throw in Walker if they want talent back as well! but ainge should push for Chandler!

C's would be soo deep they'll look scary!

Remember ppl talk **** about Nate alot but how many PGs can average 13ppg and 3apg off the bench? with the ability to both create and score? you might wanna think about that for a moment!

Paul Pierce is looking better after that surgery Ray Allen looks the same to me and hopefully KG can get back to looking like the old KG maybe not as good but at least 85% or 90% to what he use to be would be good! Rondo and Perk are playing great the only problem we have is depth issues! and with a backup PG Daniels can score his 13ppg that he use to average off the bench in Indiana and House can play his natural role which will increase their effectiveness!

That would be a heck of a deal for us? But why does New York do this?

They wouldn't.  I don't think we'd need to throw in Shelden, either.  We'd need to be taking back Jeffries or Curry in order for the Knicks to trade us Chandler.

Even if we take Jeffries, I'm skeptical they'll give up Chandler. He's their best player under contract for 2010.

He'd be an outstanding fit off the Cs bench. He can defend 2s, 3s and 4s while hitting 3s ala Posey.

I'd say that Gallinari is the most untradable player on the Knicks.

The thing is, they have to get enough under the cap to bring in two top FAs (LBJ or otherwies).....

I'm not sure the Cs have the right package, but some team taking on Jeffries IMO could definitely pry away Chandler if they play their cards right....The Knicks have to move Jeffries...

[PLamb]

If New York decides it has to get rid of Nate Robinson because he is just detrimental to the team in behind the scenes they have four choices

1 Send home for the year and let him collect his checks
2 Buy him out and hope and pray he accepts less than what he is owed
3 Release him outright
4 Trade him to the Celtics as Nate is a no-trade clause player due to CBA rules regarding one year contract Bird Rights players and has said he will only accept a trade to Boston

Personally, I like my trade of Shelden Williams and Tony Allen for Nate Robinson and Marcus Landry

It works on Trade Machine