If Danny Doesn't See It IDK What He Is Looking At

[JIMTONIK]

I totaly agree....
We have no shooters from the bench.

Mavs-celtics 19-13

Hawks-celtics 24-15

Raptors-Celtics 26-15

Hawks-celtics 22-12

Heat - celtics 37-12

Suns - celtics 38-37
 bench vs bench of our last games, obviously against teams who will be in post season, I'm not counting Nets or similar.
obviously we have Sheed upgraded in the startint lineup, but it's sure that we have not a shooter. The only one, House hase forgotted his job.
last night Nate did 29 points from the bench. 41 against atlanta. maybe we need him. or a similar player who can fire from everywhere.

  It's hard to outscore opposing benches when 1 or two of your bench players are starting.

It's obvious,expecially when you have a lot of guys addicted with injuries such as KG,Daniels.
But it's a fact that we have no shooters in the bench.
House this year is an other player.
We'r talking about winning a championship, so you have to be perfect in every aspect of the game, you must have more solutions than your enemies.

[dlpin]

I totaly agree....
We have no shooters from the bench.

Mavs-celtics 19-13

Hawks-celtics 24-15

Raptors-Celtics 26-15

Hawks-celtics 22-12

Heat - celtics 37-12

Suns - celtics 38-37
 bench vs bench of our last games, obviously against teams who will be in post season, I'm not counting Nets or similar.
obviously we have Sheed upgraded in the startint lineup, but it's sure that we have not a shooter. The only one, House hase forgotted his job.
last night Nate did 29 points from the bench. 41 against atlanta. maybe we need him. or a similar player who can fire from everywhere.

  It's hard to outscore opposing benches when 1 or two of your bench players are starting.

True, and TP. Most of those teams were fully healthy and relied on just the top 6th man to score most of those points. When Sheed was coming off the bench, his offensive production (9.3 ppg)was very similar to that of Barbosa (10.9), Haslem (10.2) or Gooden (, which were the bench players who were single handedly responsible for that bench disparity.

[BballTim]

I totaly agree....
We have no shooters from the bench.

Mavs-celtics 19-13

Hawks-celtics 24-15

Raptors-Celtics 26-15

Hawks-celtics 22-12

Heat - celtics 37-12

Suns - celtics 38-37
 bench vs bench of our last games, obviously against teams who will be in post season, I'm not counting Nets or similar.
obviously we have Sheed upgraded in the startint lineup, but it's sure that we have not a shooter. The only one, House hase forgotted his job.
last night Nate did 29 points from the bench. 41 against atlanta. maybe we need him. or a similar player who can fire from everywhere.

  It's hard to outscore opposing benches when 1 or two of your bench players are starting.

It's obvious,expecially when you have a lot of guys addicted with injuries such as KG,Daniels.
But it's a fact that we have no shooters in the bench.
House this year is an other player.
We'r talking about winning a championship, so you have to be perfect in every aspect of the game, you must have more solutions than your enemies.

  No team is perfect in every aspect of the game. You have to be able to win despite your shortcomings. Just like your opponent.

[Tai]

Tired of hearing the "it's not an excuse, but" line along with the "when we're healthy for the playoffs" line not to be outdone by the " locker room chemistry" line over and over and over. These are cliches, and all they do is sugar coat reality.

Cold facts: The Cs are 7-8 over their last 15. They're not a good home team, and they're not a good rebounding team. Unless something changes they'll be hitting the golf course nice and early this year, and likely earlier each off-season over the next three or four.

One such change could be personel -- it's not the only potential change, but one that shouldn't be discounted. And if we're not just talking about this year but a couple of years to come there's simply no debate that an injection of NBA talent will be required -- unless you think the Cs ongoing fade in the 2nd half of games is a coincidence. This team is good, but it's old and it's shallow. The bench falls off a cliff. It's a weakness to begin with, and then when the bench become starters the team is not a legit threat.

Never has their been a better time for GMs of wealthy teams to take advantage of those from poor ones. If the Cs are serious about continuing to compete, Ainge needs to show his acumen by leaving no stone unturned in looking for a deal to make this team better. I hope he finds it.

Cold Facts: the magic are also 7-8, and are an even worse 3-7 over the past ten games while mostly healthy, so "getting healthy" is not an option.
Cold Facts: the Lakers are 4-3 since Kobe has started having back problems. They are also a mediocre 9-6 on the road, despite only facing 7 teams with winning records on the road.
Cold Facts: the hawks are also 7-8 in the past 15 games.
Cold facts: there are no realistic upgrades at any starting position that would make up for the loss of Garnett.


In other words, unless some other team is willing to give us a gift of "Gasol to the Lakers" magnitude, our future still depends on KG getting healthy.

I'd also like to add another cold hard fact: the Celtics have the best road record in the NBA with 16-5. The next best road records are the Lakers, 9-6, and those Mavs at 14-7. One hasn't played as many road games as the Celtics, the other as played the exact amount. Only the Cavs have won more than the Celtics on the road (17-8), but they have more losses. That's our "cold" reality.

So, what's to worry about so far this season? That we MIGHT not get the #1 seed in the East, even though it's still in our grasp? OH NO. We can't win on the road an-, wait, yes we can! We've been doing it all season

Ok, anyways, it's already been said that KG's been rested to try and avoid what happened last year. When he comes back, we're already better off than if we get some backup PG in a buyout. Then, there's our backup "point forward" in Daniels. We get him back, our bench may just flow better again, and suddenly we have our top 10 coached by a guy named who Doc uses 9 guys in his rotations.

I think we'll be fine.

(And TP to you dpin for your post I quoted.)

[NoBlarney]

Seems pretty simple to me.  One shot.... no rebounding.  Wrong guys holding (or dribbling) the ball when they should be passing.  Poor ball movement. Guys standing watching the play waiting for a pass.  Reminds me of when my son was in High School. This team HAS to hit the long j's and 3's to win.  Better get some rebounding or its gonna be a long year.  This whole dilema is either poor coaching decisions or poor communication.

[BballTim]

Seems pretty simple to me.  One shot.... no rebounding.  Wrong guys holding (or dribbling) the ball when they should be passing.  Poor ball movement. Guys standing watching the play waiting for a pass.  Reminds me of when my son was in High School. This team HAS to hit the long j's and 3's to win.  Better get some rebounding or its gonna be a long year.  This whole dilema is either poor coaching decisions or poor communication.

  We're generally one of the best teams in the league at points in the paint.

[thirstyboots18]

Some of the problems you are mentioning will be mitigated when Marquis Daniels returns.  I don't think Glen Davis has found his place yet this year.  Daniels brings energy from the bench, backs up Rondo, Paul and Ray, and drives to the hoop for a basket, or  drawing traffic and opening up the outside shooters.  Even more than KG, Marquis' absence has been a major blow to the Celts so far this season.

[Roy Hobbs]

I'm predicting that we'll all be having a good chuckle over threads like this on opening night next season, when we're hoisting banner #18.

There are concerns, and I'd like to see a minor upgrade to the rotation.  However, the team is going to be fine.

[WeMadeIt17]

I hope that i can laugh at this post when were raising banner 18 but without a tweak to the bench. I don't see it happening.

[Chris]

I hope that i can laugh at this post when were raising banner 18 but without a tweak to the bench. I don't see it happening.

The current bench, or the bench when we are healthy?  Because the bench when we are healthy (House, Daniels, Davis, Sheed) is arguably the best bench in basketball.

[Roy Hobbs]

I hope that i can laugh at this post when were raising banner 18 but without a tweak to the bench. I don't see it happening.

The current bench, or the bench when we are healthy?  Because the bench when we are healthy (House, Daniels, Davis, Sheed) is arguably the best bench in basketball.

Agreed.  I'd like to see a small upgrade somewhere, but honestly, I have no questions about this team if healthy.

If we're healthy, the bench is fine.

If one of the starters is out, the bench probably won't make much of a difference.

[housecall]

Our bench is better than most benches in the league when all the pieces are there(healthy)but i have noticed of late the Lakers got better when they inserted Shannon Brown into a bigger role off the bench.He makes their second unit go a lot quicker,smoother than Sasha did...im just sayin.

[Chris]

I hope that i can laugh at this post when were raising banner 18 but without a tweak to the bench. I don't see it happening.

The current bench, or the bench when we are healthy?  Because the bench when we are healthy (House, Daniels, Davis, Sheed) is arguably the best bench in basketball.

Agreed.  I'd like to see a small upgrade somewhere, but honestly, I have no questions about this team if healthy.

If we're healthy, the bench is fine.

If one of the starters is out, the bench probably won't make much of a difference.

I just don't think there are any upgrades available, for when this team is healthy, unless they can find a way to pry a guy like Ridnour or Blake away.

This team has two legit NBA starters off the bench in Wallace and Daniels, another borderline starter in Davis, and a very good bench player in House.  

Really, I think anything this team can do now is just for depth, so if there are injuries come playoff time, they have better 10-12th men.  I would be very surprised if they are able to upgrade the top 9...and I mean that in a good way.

[Roy Hobbs]

I hope that i can laugh at this post when were raising banner 18 but without a tweak to the bench. I don't see it happening.

The current bench, or the bench when we are healthy?  Because the bench when we are healthy (House, Daniels, Davis, Sheed) is arguably the best bench in basketball.

Agreed.  I'd like to see a small upgrade somewhere, but honestly, I have no questions about this team if healthy.

If we're healthy, the bench is fine.

If one of the starters is out, the bench probably won't make much of a difference.

I just don't think there are any upgrades available, for when this team is healthy, unless they can find a way to pry a guy like Ridnour or Blake away.

This team has two legit NBA starters off the bench in Wallace and Daniels, another borderline starter in Davis, and a very good bench player in House.  

Really, I think anything this team can do now is just for depth, so if there are injuries come playoff time, they have better 10-12th men.  I would be very surprised if they are able to upgrade the top 9...and I mean that in a good way.

Yeah, I think you're probably right.

I think it may make sense for Danny to try to make a trade for a player on a 2-year contract that upgrades a rotation player slightly, while also providing some stability for next year.  That's why I like Salmons, but there are probably other guys out there. 

I think that Eddie is probably the most replaceable player in the rotation, if something presents itself.

[Chris]

I hope that i can laugh at this post when were raising banner 18 but without a tweak to the bench. I don't see it happening.

The current bench, or the bench when we are healthy?  Because the bench when we are healthy (House, Daniels, Davis, Sheed) is arguably the best bench in basketball.

Agreed.  I'd like to see a small upgrade somewhere, but honestly, I have no questions about this team if healthy.

If we're healthy, the bench is fine.

If one of the starters is out, the bench probably won't make much of a difference.

I just don't think there are any upgrades available, for when this team is healthy, unless they can find a way to pry a guy like Ridnour or Blake away.

This team has two legit NBA starters off the bench in Wallace and Daniels, another borderline starter in Davis, and a very good bench player in House.  

Really, I think anything this team can do now is just for depth, so if there are injuries come playoff time, they have better 10-12th men.  I would be very surprised if they are able to upgrade the top 9...and I mean that in a good way.

Yeah, I think you're probably right.

I think it may make sense for Danny to try to make a trade for a player on a 2-year contract that upgrades a rotation player slightly, while also providing some stability for next year.  That's why I like Salmons, but there are probably other guys out there. 

I think that Eddie is probably the most replaceable player in the rotation, if something presents itself.

Yeah, I think Salmons is an interesting case.  While I am not a fan of his in general (he has a lot of Tony Allen in him), if you can get a guy like that without giving up too much, you need to jump at it. 

If everyone is healthy, I still don't know how much better he makes us this season, but it makes a lot of sense for next season's roster flexibility.