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Re: If Danny Doesn't See It IDK What He Is Looking At
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2010, 01:43:04 AM »

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Celtics need a guy like KEvin Garnett

Re: If Danny Doesn't See It IDK What He Is Looking At
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2010, 02:51:36 AM »

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This team needs and upgrade and need it quick. They are just bad plain bad. No heart over the past two games. This team Won with KG out of the lineup last year so i don't want to here the excuse of the injuries. We need and upgrade and quick. This team will not win a championship as is. Or at least with the attitude that we can coast the whole game and cause we are Vets we will win that isn't working.

See, this is the thing to me. We can get players, or "upgrade". But can we buy heart? Something tells me that won't come easy. :\

Re: If Danny Doesn't See It IDK What He Is Looking At
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2010, 06:30:09 AM »

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Celtics need a guy like KEvin Garnett

Yeah, without giving up anything in return. I have a feeling that this might happen soon... 8)

Re: If Danny Doesn't See It IDK What He Is Looking At
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2010, 07:21:37 AM »

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Celtics need a guy like KEvin Garnett

Yeah, without giving up anything in return. I have a feeling that this might happen soon... 8)
I remember losing games that we should have won with KG, so I don't really feel like KG is that much missed, but I look forward on having him back. I'm a little skeptical about it, they've been covering something up.
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Re: If Danny Doesn't See It IDK What He Is Looking At
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2010, 09:37:42 AM »

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Tired of hearing the "it's not an excuse, but" line along with the "when we're healthy for the playoffs" line not to be outdone by the " locker room chemistry" line over and over and over. These are cliches, and all they do is sugar coat reality.

Cold facts: The Cs are 7-8 over their last 15. They're not a good home team, and they're not a good rebounding team. Unless something changes they'll be hitting the golf course nice and early this year, and likely earlier each off-season over the next three or four.

One such change could be personel -- it's not the only potential change, but one that shouldn't be discounted. And if we're not just talking about this year but a couple of years to come there's simply no debate that an injection of NBA talent will be required -- unless you think the Cs ongoing fade in the 2nd half of games is a coincidence. This team is good, but it's old and it's shallow. The bench falls off a cliff. It's a weakness to begin with, and then when the bench become starters the team is not a legit threat.

Never has their been a better time for GMs of wealthy teams to take advantage of those from poor ones. If the Cs are serious about continuing to compete, Ainge needs to show his acumen by leaving no stone unturned in looking for a deal to make this team better. I hope he finds it.

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Re: If Danny Doesn't See It IDK What He Is Looking At
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2010, 10:54:56 AM »

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Tired of hearing the "it's not an excuse, but" line along with the "when we're healthy for the playoffs" line not to be outdone by the " locker room chemistry" line over and over and over. These are cliches, and all they do is sugar coat reality.

Cold facts: The Cs are 7-8 over their last 15. They're not a good home team, and they're not a good rebounding team. Unless something changes they'll be hitting the golf course nice and early this year, and likely earlier each off-season over the next three or four.

One such change could be personel -- it's not the only potential change, but one that shouldn't be discounted. And if we're not just talking about this year but a couple of years to come there's simply no debate that an injection of NBA talent will be required -- unless you think the Cs ongoing fade in the 2nd half of games is a coincidence. This team is good, but it's old and it's shallow. The bench falls off a cliff. It's a weakness to begin with, and then when the bench become starters the team is not a legit threat.

Never has their been a better time for GMs of wealthy teams to take advantage of those from poor ones. If the Cs are serious about continuing to compete, Ainge needs to show his acumen by leaving no stone unturned in looking for a deal to make this team better. I hope he finds it.



Cold Facts: the magic are also 7-8, and are an even worse 3-7 over the past ten games while mostly healthy, so "getting healthy" is not an option.
Cold Facts: the Lakers are 4-3 since Kobe has started having back problems. They are also a mediocre 9-6 on the road, despite only facing 7 teams with winning records on the road.
Cold Facts: the hawks are also 7-8 in the past 15 games.
Cold facts: there are no realistic upgrades at any starting position that would make up for the loss of Garnett.


In other words, unless some other team is willing to give us a gift of "Gasol to the Lakers" magnitude, our future still depends on KG getting healthy.

Re: If Danny Doesn't See It IDK What He Is Looking At
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2010, 11:08:13 AM »

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Tired of hearing the "it's not an excuse, but" line along with the "when we're healthy for the playoffs" line not to be outdone by the " locker room chemistry" line over and over and over. These are cliches, and all they do is sugar coat reality.

Cold facts: The Cs are 7-8 over their last 15. They're not a good home team, and they're not a good rebounding team. Unless something changes they'll be hitting the golf course nice and early this year, and likely earlier each off-season over the next three or four.

One such change could be personel -- it's not the only potential change, but one that shouldn't be discounted. And if we're not just talking about this year but a couple of years to come there's simply no debate that an injection of NBA talent will be required -- unless you think the Cs ongoing fade in the 2nd half of games is a coincidence. This team is good, but it's old and it's shallow. The bench falls off a cliff. It's a weakness to begin with, and then when the bench become starters the team is not a legit threat.

Never has their been a better time for GMs of wealthy teams to take advantage of those from poor ones. If the Cs are serious about continuing to compete, Ainge needs to show his acumen by leaving no stone unturned in looking for a deal to make this team better. I hope he finds it.



Cold Facts: the magic are also 7-8, and are an even worse 3-7 over the past ten games while mostly healthy, so "getting healthy" is not an option.
Cold Facts: the Lakers are 4-3 since Kobe has started having back problems. They are also a mediocre 9-6 on the road, despite only facing 7 teams with winning records on the road.
Cold Facts: the hawks are also 7-8 in the past 15 games.
Cold facts: there are no realistic upgrades at any starting position that would make up for the loss of Garnett.


In other words, unless some other team is willing to give us a gift of "Gasol to the Lakers" magnitude, our future still depends on KG getting healthy.

The team doesn’t need to upgrade its starting unit, it needs better depth to make up for injuries. And if you think there aren’t going to be talented players available in trade over the next month that would represent an upgrade over Scal and Tony Allen, then you haven’t been reading the papers much.

I love this new trend of comparing the Cs to the Hawks. I wonder whether it’s because they’ve been wooping us, because they’ve then been losing to our supposed EC rivals, because they’re a good but not championship level team, or all of the above? Either way, it’s depressing.
Mike

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Re: If Danny Doesn't See It IDK What He Is Looking At
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2010, 11:14:13 AM »

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Tired of hearing the "it's not an excuse, but" line along with the "when we're healthy for the playoffs" line not to be outdone by the " locker room chemistry" line over and over and over. These are cliches, and all they do is sugar coat reality.

Cold facts: The Cs are 7-8 over their last 15. They're not a good home team, and they're not a good rebounding team. Unless something changes they'll be hitting the golf course nice and early this year, and likely earlier each off-season over the next three or four.

One such change could be personel -- it's not the only potential change, but one that shouldn't be discounted. And if we're not just talking about this year but a couple of years to come there's simply no debate that an injection of NBA talent will be required -- unless you think the Cs ongoing fade in the 2nd half of games is a coincidence. This team is good, but it's old and it's shallow. The bench falls off a cliff. It's a weakness to begin with, and then when the bench become starters the team is not a legit threat.

Never has their been a better time for GMs of wealthy teams to take advantage of those from poor ones. If the Cs are serious about continuing to compete, Ainge needs to show his acumen by leaving no stone unturned in looking for a deal to make this team better. I hope he finds it.



Cold Facts: the magic are also 7-8, and are an even worse 3-7 over the past ten games while mostly healthy, so "getting healthy" is not an option.
Cold Facts: the Lakers are 4-3 since Kobe has started having back problems. They are also a mediocre 9-6 on the road, despite only facing 7 teams with winning records on the road.
Cold Facts: the hawks are also 7-8 in the past 15 games.
Cold facts: there are no realistic upgrades at any starting position that would make up for the loss of Garnett.


In other words, unless some other team is willing to give us a gift of "Gasol to the Lakers" magnitude, our future still depends on KG getting healthy.

The team doesn’t need to upgrade its starting unit, it needs better depth to make up for injuries. And if you think there aren’t going to be talented players available in trade over the next month that would represent an upgrade over Scal and Tony Allen, then you haven’t been reading the papers much.

I love this new trend of comparing the Cs to the Hawks. I wonder whether it’s because they’ve been wooping us, because they’ve then been losing to our supposed EC rivals, because they’re a good but not championship level team, or all of the above? Either way, it’s depressing.


I love this new trend of nitpicking a few points in a post and ignoring everything else. I compared the celtics to the magic and the lakers too, but apparently you missed that. And if you think that the key to contention in the playoffs is upgrading what should be the 9th and 10th players off the bench, then you haven't been watching playoff basketball much.

The only way Scalabrine or Allen would be playing major minutes come playoff time is if we still have health problems among our starters, and if that is the case, there are no realistic upgrades for either out there that would make up for that.

Re: If Danny Doesn't See It IDK What He Is Looking At
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2010, 11:24:36 AM »

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Garnett and Daniels are the answers. Why does every get their panties all up in bunches when we loose a couple games? God, its ridiculous. This team is clearly missing KG and Daniels off the bench. When they come back things will be fine. Id rather have them take time off and be healthy and rested for the playoffs. We know we are going to be in the top 4 and have home court advantage...And that doesnt even matter because we almost play better on the road anyway. We know that we will get to the playoffs, and thats when games really matter.

Re: If Danny Doesn't See It IDK What He Is Looking At
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2010, 11:55:55 AM »

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Garnett and Daniels are the answers. Why does every get their panties all up in bunches when we loose a couple games? God, its ridiculous. This team is clearly missing KG and Daniels off the bench. When they come back things will be fine. Id rather have them take time off and be healthy and rested for the playoffs. We know we are going to be in the top 4 and have home court advantage...And that doesnt even matter because we almost play better on the road anyway. We know that we will get to the playoffs, and thats when games really matter.

An 11-7 record at home will do that to a lot of people. Garnett or no Garnett, there is no excuse for the total lack of energy and focus this team has shown lately, especially last night against Dallas. I kind of bought the tired legs excuse against Chicago, but there is no excuse when you are at home, with three days rest, and playing a team on a road trip that just got crushed the day before in Toronto.

How does the team that has had 3 days off look more tired at the end of the game than the team playing a back-to-back. There is just no excuse for this poor effort, regardless of who is injured.

Re: If Danny Doesn't See It IDK What He Is Looking At
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2010, 11:58:21 AM »

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Tired of hearing the "it's not an excuse, but" line along with the "when we're healthy for the playoffs" line not to be outdone by the " locker room chemistry" line over and over and over. These are cliches, and all they do is sugar coat reality.

Cold facts: The Cs are 7-8 over their last 15. They're not a good home team, and they're not a good rebounding team. Unless something changes they'll be hitting the golf course nice and early this year, and likely earlier each off-season over the next three or four.

One such change could be personel -- it's not the only potential change, but one that shouldn't be discounted. And if we're not just talking about this year but a couple of years to come there's simply no debate that an injection of NBA talent will be required -- unless you think the Cs ongoing fade in the 2nd half of games is a coincidence. This team is good, but it's old and it's shallow. The bench falls off a cliff. It's a weakness to begin with, and then when the bench become starters the team is not a legit threat.

Never has their been a better time for GMs of wealthy teams to take advantage of those from poor ones. If the Cs are serious about continuing to compete, Ainge needs to show his acumen by leaving no stone unturned in looking for a deal to make this team better. I hope he finds it.



Cold Facts: the magic are also 7-8, and are an even worse 3-7 over the past ten games while mostly healthy, so "getting healthy" is not an option.
Cold Facts: the Lakers are 4-3 since Kobe has started having back problems. They are also a mediocre 9-6 on the road, despite only facing 7 teams with winning records on the road.
Cold Facts: the hawks are also 7-8 in the past 15 games.
Cold facts: there are no realistic upgrades at any starting position that would make up for the loss of Garnett.


In other words, unless some other team is willing to give us a gift of "Gasol to the Lakers" magnitude, our future still depends on KG getting healthy.

The team doesn’t need to upgrade its starting unit, it needs better depth to make up for injuries. And if you think there aren’t going to be talented players available in trade over the next month that would represent an upgrade over Scal and Tony Allen, then you haven’t been reading the papers much.

I love this new trend of comparing the Cs to the Hawks. I wonder whether it’s because they’ve been wooping us, because they’ve then been losing to our supposed EC rivals, because they’re a good but not championship level team, or all of the above? Either way, it’s depressing.


I love this new trend of nitpicking a few points in a post and ignoring everything else. I compared the celtics to the magic and the lakers too, but apparently you missed that. And if you think that the key to contention in the playoffs is upgrading what should be the 9th and 10th players off the bench, then you haven't been watching playoff basketball much.

The only way Scalabrine or Allen would be playing major minutes come playoff time is if we still have health problems among our starters, and if that is the case, there are no realistic upgrades for either out there that would make up for that.

Not interested in posts filled with mimicry, sarcasm and condescension (are you going to repeat what I say everytime you respond?). Try someone else.

Mike

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Re: If Danny Doesn't See It IDK What He Is Looking At
« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2010, 12:10:16 PM »

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I totaly agree....
We have no shooters from the bench.

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Heat - celtics 37-12

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 bench vs bench of our last games, obviously against teams who will be in post season, I'm not counting Nets or similar.
obviously we have Sheed upgraded in the startint lineup, but it's sure that we have not a shooter. The only one, House hase forgotted his job.
last night Nate did 29 points from the bench. 41 against atlanta. maybe we need him. or a similar player who can fire from everywhere.
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Re: If Danny Doesn't See It IDK What He Is Looking At
« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2010, 12:13:52 PM »

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Tired of hearing the "it's not an excuse, but" line along with the "when we're healthy for the playoffs" line not to be outdone by the " locker room chemistry" line over and over and over. These are cliches, and all they do is sugar coat reality.

Cold facts: The Cs are 7-8 over their last 15. They're not a good home team, and they're not a good rebounding team. Unless something changes they'll be hitting the golf course nice and early this year, and likely earlier each off-season over the next three or four.

One such change could be personel -- it's not the only potential change, but one that shouldn't be discounted. And if we're not just talking about this year but a couple of years to come there's simply no debate that an injection of NBA talent will be required -- unless you think the Cs ongoing fade in the 2nd half of games is a coincidence. This team is good, but it's old and it's shallow. The bench falls off a cliff. It's a weakness to begin with, and then when the bench become starters the team is not a legit threat.

Never has their been a better time for GMs of wealthy teams to take advantage of those from poor ones. If the Cs are serious about continuing to compete, Ainge needs to show his acumen by leaving no stone unturned in looking for a deal to make this team better. I hope he finds it.



Cold Facts: the magic are also 7-8, and are an even worse 3-7 over the past ten games while mostly healthy, so "getting healthy" is not an option.
Cold Facts: the Lakers are 4-3 since Kobe has started having back problems. They are also a mediocre 9-6 on the road, despite only facing 7 teams with winning records on the road.
Cold Facts: the hawks are also 7-8 in the past 15 games.
Cold facts: there are no realistic upgrades at any starting position that would make up for the loss of Garnett.


In other words, unless some other team is willing to give us a gift of "Gasol to the Lakers" magnitude, our future still depends on KG getting healthy.

The team doesn’t need to upgrade its starting unit, it needs better depth to make up for injuries. And if you think there aren’t going to be talented players available in trade over the next month that would represent an upgrade over Scal and Tony Allen, then you haven’t been reading the papers much.

I love this new trend of comparing the Cs to the Hawks. I wonder whether it’s because they’ve been wooping us, because they’ve then been losing to our supposed EC rivals, because they’re a good but not championship level team, or all of the above? Either way, it’s depressing.


I love this new trend of nitpicking a few points in a post and ignoring everything else. I compared the celtics to the magic and the lakers too, but apparently you missed that. And if you think that the key to contention in the playoffs is upgrading what should be the 9th and 10th players off the bench, then you haven't been watching playoff basketball much.

The only way Scalabrine or Allen would be playing major minutes come playoff time is if we still have health problems among our starters, and if that is the case, there are no realistic upgrades for either out there that would make up for that.

Not interested in posts filled with mimicry, sarcasm and condescension (are you going to repeat what I say everytime you respond?). Try someone else.



Lovely how you accuse someone of both mimicry AND sarcasm and condescension. My post included sarcasm and condescension precisely because I emulated yours.

Re: If Danny Doesn't See It IDK What He Is Looking At
« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2010, 12:23:07 PM »

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I think the only thing Danny needs to see is whether KG is really going to be healthy again this year or not.  If he isn't, then Danny needs to think hard about rebuilding on the fly by trading away Ray and others.  If KG is likely to be healthy again this year, then there really is not much Danny needs to do, unless someone falls into their lap via a buyout.

As for things like the intensity put forth by the team, that is Doc's, and the players problem...and really, I am not all that concerned with that right now.  It is January, let them cruise a bit.

Re: If Danny Doesn't See It IDK What He Is Looking At
« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2010, 12:47:50 PM »

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I totaly agree....
We have no shooters from the bench.

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Hawks-celtics 24-15

Raptors-Celtics 26-15

Hawks-celtics 22-12

Heat - celtics 37-12

Suns - celtics 38-37
 bench vs bench of our last games, obviously against teams who will be in post season, I'm not counting Nets or similar.
obviously we have Sheed upgraded in the startint lineup, but it's sure that we have not a shooter. The only one, House hase forgotted his job.
last night Nate did 29 points from the bench. 41 against atlanta. maybe we need him. or a similar player who can fire from everywhere.

  It's hard to outscore opposing benches when 1 or two of your bench players are starting.