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Re: Spears : Celtics, Lakers interested in Nate Robinson
« Reply #45 on: January 17, 2010, 09:13:19 AM »

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I don't think there's a realistic way we could trade for him.  If he and the Knicks agreed to a buyout, it could happen.

He's a very talented player, but he's not the type of self-centered, locker room cancer that will fit in here.  From everything I've read, he's one of the least popular players in the NBA.  It's too bad, too, because I love his athleticism and energy.

Roy, interested to hear where you've been reading this. i was surprised to hear a number of high profile players come to his defense when he was benched.

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Re: Spears : Celtics, Lakers interested in Nate Robinson
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I don't know Nate Robinson.  For all I knowhis Boston teammates will love him.

But I have seen him play on numerous occasions, and as a basketball player Nate Robinson is about one thing, and one thing only: Nate Robinson.

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« Reply #47 on: January 17, 2010, 10:08:26 AM »

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I say get Nate because he will help us and because the Lakers are scary enough already.  Plus I'm a little tired of the House show.  He's so one dimentional ridiculous.  He's less than 6 feet and we sill always have to find someone else to dribble the ball up the court when he's in.

House is 6-1 and Robinson is 5-9, so from a height point of view, Eddie clearly has the edge on Nate...

I don't think Nate would a be difference maker for a contender. He could be a big boost for the Lakers since their PG's are awful but on our team, I don't see a big need.
Nate can bring the ball up the court, House can't.

Nate is an undersized ballhog, House can make passes.

Drucci, i think you may be being a little strong on this subject. I'm not sure Nate is a 'cancer'. Let's remember he's playing for an organization that's been a total mess and has shown no dedication to winning, but rather to cutting salery.

Also, Nate is not as poor a passer as you make him out to be. And Eddie is. Eddie really can't pass. Nate clearly prefers to shoot but he's certainly a more dynamic player than Eddie.




Funny though the team became somewhat of overachievers winning more games then most would expect when Robinson was taken off the floor. 


Nate would beat House one on one. 

House fits the Celtics giving them an outside shooting specialists.


And that is what the Celtics need right now, specialists off the bench.  They have the 5 starters.  They have a true 6th man.  They even have a good 7th man when he is healthy.  The rest of the bench, should be role player/specialists.

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« Reply #48 on: January 17, 2010, 10:12:42 AM »

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I don't know Nate Robinson.  For all I knowhis Boston teammates will love him.

But I have seen him play on numerous occasions, and as a basketball player Nate Robinson is about one thing, and one thing only: Nate Robinson.


Nate is averging 3.2 assists a game in back-up minutes. Eddie House is averaging less than 1 assist a game in similar minutes.

Would you have said Eddie House was about anything other than Eddie before he arrived? Making a selfish offensive contribution to the bench is what he brings to the table, and it's valuable.

wdleehi, i agree with you. That's why I'm comfortable with a selfish scorer in trade as a role guy off the bench / in case off injury. We could use one. Other than Sheed, our bench scoring is dreadful (considering House's struggles).

I think posters get too carried away with the ubuntu high horse sometimes. Gripping it like a security blanket at the expense of competing for a championship is useless. Not everyone is Ray Allen. I want the talent to compete, and considering our inability to get the entire team on the floor / bench, I believe we need more.
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Re: Spears : Celtics, Lakers interested in Nate Robinson
« Reply #49 on: January 17, 2010, 10:21:27 AM »

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Eddie seems to be the weak link in the rotation this year.  wdleehi, I don't see how we need specialists, period.  Doesn't the term specialist simply mean that the player lacks multiple skills and a complete game?  Give me a player with multiple skills anytime.

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« Reply #50 on: January 17, 2010, 10:24:39 AM »

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Eddie seems to be the weak link in the rotation this year.  wdleehi, I don't see how we need specialists, period.  Doesn't the term specialist simply mean that the player lacks multiple skills and a complete game?  Give me a player with multiple skills anytime.

It looks like in the last game he was finding his stroke. 


And yes, give me specialist.  Like the year they won the title with Posey, House and PJ were the main reserves in the playoffs. 

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Eddie seems to be the weak link in the rotation this year.  wdleehi, I don't see how we need specialists, period.  Doesn't the term specialist simply mean that the player lacks multiple skills and a complete game?  Give me a player with multiple skills anytime.

It looks like in the last game he was finding his stroke. 


And yes, give me specialist.  Like the year they won the title with Posey, House and PJ were the main reserves in the playoffs. 
Yeah but Posey and PJ weren't specialists.  Posey defended, rebounded, shot 3's, dove for loose balls.  PJ did everything a big man is supposed to do- denfended, rebounded, scored a bit.  House is the only one trick pony out of those three.

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Eddie seems to be the weak link in the rotation this year.  wdleehi, I don't see how we need specialists, period.  Doesn't the term specialist simply mean that the player lacks multiple skills and a complete game?  Give me a player with multiple skills anytime.

It looks like in the last game he was finding his stroke. 


And yes, give me specialist.  Like the year they won the title with Posey, House and PJ were the main reserves in the playoffs. 
Yeah but Posey and PJ weren't specialists.  Posey defended, rebounded, shot 3's, dove for loose balls.  PJ did everything a big man is supposed to do- denfended, rebounded, scored a bit.  House is the only one trick pony out of those three.

They were the definition of role player/specialists. 


Posey, defender that can hit an open three.

PJ, big man defender/rebounder that can hit an open jumpshot.



compared to Wallace who can defend, hit the open three, post up players one on one and be the go to guy for short periods of time.

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Eddie seems to be the weak link in the rotation this year.  wdleehi, I don't see how we need specialists, period.  Doesn't the term specialist simply mean that the player lacks multiple skills and a complete game?  Give me a player with multiple skills anytime.

It looks like in the last game he was finding his stroke. 


And yes, give me specialist.  Like the year they won the title with Posey, House and PJ were the main reserves in the playoffs. 
Yeah but Posey and PJ weren't specialists.  Posey defended, rebounded, shot 3's, dove for loose balls.  PJ did everything a big man is supposed to do- denfended, rebounded, scored a bit.  House is the only one trick pony out of those three.

They were the definition of role player/specialists. 


Posey, defender that can hit an open three.

PJ, big man defender/rebounder that can hit an open jumpshot.



compared to Wallace who can defend, hit the open three, post up players one on one and be the go to guy for short periods of time.
Role players, yes.  Specialists, no.  House can only do one thing, those guys can do several things.

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Eddie seems to be the weak link in the rotation this year.  wdleehi, I don't see how we need specialists, period.  Doesn't the term specialist simply mean that the player lacks multiple skills and a complete game?  Give me a player with multiple skills anytime.

It looks like in the last game he was finding his stroke. 


And yes, give me specialist.  Like the year they won the title with Posey, House and PJ were the main reserves in the playoffs. 
Yeah but Posey and PJ weren't specialists.  Posey defended, rebounded, shot 3's, dove for loose balls.  PJ did everything a big man is supposed to do- denfended, rebounded, scored a bit.  House is the only one trick pony out of those three.

They were the definition of role player/specialists. 


Posey, defender that can hit an open three.

PJ, big man defender/rebounder that can hit an open jumpshot.



compared to Wallace who can defend, hit the open three, post up players one on one and be the go to guy for short periods of time.
Role players, yes.  Specialists, no.  House can only do one thing, those guys can do several things.

House can also do something those guys couldn't.  Provide and offensive spark that can turn around an offense.  When he comes in on fire, his shooting can get the offense on track by opening up the offense for other players with the ball in their hands. 

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Eddie seems to be the weak link in the rotation this year.  wdleehi, I don't see how we need specialists, period.  Doesn't the term specialist simply mean that the player lacks multiple skills and a complete game?  Give me a player with multiple skills anytime.

It looks like in the last game he was finding his stroke. 


And yes, give me specialist.  Like the year they won the title with Posey, House and PJ were the main reserves in the playoffs. 
Yeah but Posey and PJ weren't specialists.  Posey defended, rebounded, shot 3's, dove for loose balls.  PJ did everything a big man is supposed to do- denfended, rebounded, scored a bit.  House is the only one trick pony out of those three.

They were the definition of role player/specialists. 


Posey, defender that can hit an open three.

PJ, big man defender/rebounder that can hit an open jumpshot.



compared to Wallace who can defend, hit the open three, post up players one on one and be the go to guy for short periods of time.
Role players, yes.  Specialists, no.  House can only do one thing, those guys can do several things.

House can also do something those guys couldn't.  Provide and offensive spark that can turn around an offense.  When he comes in on fire, his shooting can get the offense on track by opening up the offense for other players with the ball in their hands. 
You are right about that.

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I don't think there's a realistic way we could trade for him.  If he and the Knicks agreed to a buyout, it could happen.

He's a very talented player, but he's not the type of self-centered, locker room cancer that will fit in here.  From everything I've read, he's one of the least popular players in the NBA.  It's too bad, too, because I love his athleticism and energy.

Roy, interested to hear where you've been reading this. i was surprised to hear a number of high profile players come to his defense when he was benched.



I've linked to the stories multiple times in the past; search for Nate Robinson and "jerk", and you'll find some links. Robinson has a history of picking fights with teammates, including going after one of them with a broom.  From what I've heard, he also wasn't very well-liked at Washington.

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I don't think there's a realistic way we could trade for him.  If he and the Knicks agreed to a buyout, it could happen.

He's a very talented player, but he's not the type of self-centered, locker room cancer that will fit in here.  From everything I've read, he's one of the least popular players in the NBA.  It's too bad, too, because I love his athleticism and energy.
Roy, interested to hear where you've been reading this. i was surprised to hear a number of high profile players come to his defense when he was benched.



I've linked to the stories multiple times in the past; search for Nate Robinson and "jerk", and you'll find some links. Robinson has a history of picking fights with teammates, including going after one of them with a broom.  From what I've heard, he also wasn't very well-liked at Washington.
I didn't know all this about Nate...could it be he has "Napoleon syndrome"(short man),just sayin.
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I don't think there's a realistic way we could trade for him.  If he and the Knicks agreed to a buyout, it could happen.

He's a very talented player, but he's not the type of self-centered, locker room cancer that will fit in here.  From everything I've read, he's one of the least popular players in the NBA.  It's too bad, too, because I love his athleticism and energy.

Roy, interested to hear where you've been reading this. i was surprised to hear a number of high profile players come to his defense when he was benched.



I've linked to the stories multiple times in the past; search for Nate Robinson and "jerk", and you'll find some links. Robinson has a history of picking fights with teammates, including going after one of them with a broom.  From what I've heard, he also wasn't very well-liked at Washington.

what we're dealing with is a classic case of small man syndrome.  I thought I read somewhere that he had turned a corner with his attitude... but then again why was he benched all this time?

I could see him and Rondo coming to blows.