Yet another Ray Allen trade idea

[Gemini]

What does everyone think of this deal?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yf7drqy

In

Kevin Martin
Nocioni
Udrich

Out

Ray Allen
Scal
Bill Walker

I have to think that Sacramento would consider this trade. They would be dumping tons of bad salary over the next serveral years. Im sure they would have a hard time trading martin but it may be worth it to get rid of the other guys. Maybe the C's would have to throw in a 1st rounder.
The Celts would be interested becuase they would be getting a boarder line Allstar in martin that shoots lights out as well Nocioni who they have been hot for and a good bad up PG.

  Trading Ray for a younger player is to help extend our window. Picking up bad salaries works in the opposite direction.

They are not all that bad contracts for a contending team. They are bad for a team that is rebulding and has multi-millions tied up over the next 3-4 years on guys that are not apart of the future

[BballTim]

What does everyone think of this deal?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yf7drqy

In

Kevin Martin
Nocioni
Udrich

Out

Ray Allen
Scal
Bill Walker

I have to think that Sacramento would consider this trade. They would be dumping tons of bad salary over the next serveral years. Im sure they would have a hard time trading martin but it may be worth it to get rid of the other guys. Maybe the C's would have to throw in a 1st rounder.
The Celts would be interested becuase they would be getting a boarder line Allstar in martin that shoots lights out as well Nocioni who they have been hot for and a good bad up PG.

  Trading Ray for a younger player is to help extend our window. Picking up bad salaries works in the opposite direction.

They are not all that bad contracts for a contending team. They are bad for a team that is rebulding and has multi-millions tied up over the next 3-4 years on guys that are not apart of the future

  Next year, if we let everyone expire, we'd be about $6M more than we are now with 10 players under contract. There's now way we'd be able to replace Pierce AND re-sign Perk the following year. They're not bad contracts for players that start but they're pretty steep for bench players.

[LarBrd33]

What does everyone think of this deal?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yf7drqy

In

Kevin Martin
Nocioni
Udrich

Out

Ray Allen
Scal
Bill Walker

I have to think that Sacramento would consider this trade. They would be dumping tons of bad salary over the next serveral years. Im sure they would have a hard time trading martin but it may be worth it to get rid of the other guys. Maybe the C's would have to throw in a 1st rounder.
The Celts would be interested becuase they would be getting a boarder line Allstar in martin that shoots lights out as well Nocioni who they have been hot for and a good bad up PG.

  Trading Ray for a younger player is to help extend our window. Picking up bad salaries works in the opposite direction.

They are not all that bad contracts for a contending team. They are bad for a team that is rebulding and has multi-millions tied up over the next 3-4 years on guys that are not apart of the future

  Next year, if we let everyone expire, we'd be about $6M more than we are now with 10 players under contract. There's now way we'd be able to replace Pierce AND re-sign Perk the following year. They're not bad contracts for players that start but they're pretty steep for bench players.

Udrih and Nocioni are unquestionably bad contracts.   You take on those bad contracts to land a guy like Kevin Martin. THat's the only reason the Kings would do it.  If we want to have a 26 year old Martin instead of a 35 year old Ray Allen, you do that deal. 

[Change]

You're committing close to $100mil if you make this trade. Don't you think it's a high price to pay for Kevin Martin and CO. And it still won't guarantee C's a championship.

[BballTim]

What does everyone think of this deal?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yf7drqy

In

Kevin Martin
Nocioni
Udrich

Out

Ray Allen
Scal
Bill Walker

I have to think that Sacramento would consider this trade. They would be dumping tons of bad salary over the next serveral years. Im sure they would have a hard time trading martin but it may be worth it to get rid of the other guys. Maybe the C's would have to throw in a 1st rounder.
The Celts would be interested becuase they would be getting a boarder line Allstar in martin that shoots lights out as well Nocioni who they have been hot for and a good bad up PG.

  Trading Ray for a younger player is to help extend our window. Picking up bad salaries works in the opposite direction.

They are not all that bad contracts for a contending team. They are bad for a team that is rebulding and has multi-millions tied up over the next 3-4 years on guys that are not apart of the future

  Next year, if we let everyone expire, we'd be about $6M more than we are now with 10 players under contract. There's now way we'd be able to replace Pierce AND re-sign Perk the following year. They're not bad contracts for players that start but they're pretty steep for bench players.

Udrih and Nocioni are unquestionably bad contracts.   You take on those bad contracts to land a guy like Kevin Martin. THat's the only reason the Kings would do it.  If we want to have a 26 year old Martin instead of a 35 year old Ray Allen, you do that deal. 

  I agree, but how much better in the playoffs will Martin be than Allen this year? And is having him worth the impact on the roster of $25M-$30M over the following 2 years when Danny's trying to re-sign Perk and possibly replace Paul?

  The team can win now as is. Ray (and then Paul and KG) will need to be replaced. The point of trading Ray is less about upgrading him for this year as it is to replace him in the future. Not saying we should do this deal, but if Detroit decided they didn't want to pay Gordon and we traded Ray for him straight up we'd get a replacement for Ray over the next few years. We then have to do something similar with Paul, and extend Perk. Taking on $25M-$30M per in salary to replace Ray kills the rest of the plan.

[nickagneta]

Your salary discussion is one of the reasons I would want Rodriguez instead of Udrih with the other being upside, better passing skills and better outside shooting from the PG position than Udrih although Udrih has taken a decent leap in his outside shooting prowess this year.