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Brandon Jennings slumping or returning to normal?
« on: December 04, 2009, 07:56:48 AM »

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What is going on with Brandon Jennings? Two weeks ago he was the darling of sportswriters across the country, wildly hailed as the next coming of Allen Iverson and the next Rookie of the Year in the NBA. Today, much like in this post, people are asking what's happening to him.

In fairness scouts, never liked his shooting touch and before the draft, it was his biggest weakness. From the beginning of the season until the end of the Memphis game on Nov 21st, Jennings was shooting 48% from the field. Since then, over a span of a little under two weeks and 6 games Jennings has shot 32 for 105 or 30% from the field.

Is this just Jennings going through a slump, hitting an extra early wall as for the first time he isn't playing a very favorable schedule with little travel and lots of home games or is he just returning to his bad shooting roots that many scouts warned against before the draft?

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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2009, 08:09:01 AM »

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I think it is a bit of both, he is slumping but more is also returning to his normal numbers. 

Funny though, I havent seen any trade Rondo for Jennings proposals lately...

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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2009, 08:45:54 AM »

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I think it is a bit of both, he is slumping but more is also returning to his normal numbers. 

Funny though, I havent seen any trade Rondo for Jennings proposals lately...

That was such a stupid thread. I couldn't believe how quickly people jumped on the Jennings bandwagon and wanted to trade Rondo for him. People were saying he's already better than Rondo and what not, give me a break.

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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2009, 09:00:48 AM »

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Rondo has 8 double doubles this year
Steve Nash has 10
Jason Kidd has 3
Derrick Rose has 1
Baron Davis has 2
Brandon Jennings has 0
Chancey Billups has 1
Devin Harris has 0
Chris Paul has 3
Tony Parker has 0
Deron Williams has 5
Gilbert Arenas has 1

You can easily see the difference between a shooting first point guard and a pass first point guard. Whose teams seem to be doing better? Call me crazy but I have never and will never understand all of the hype surrounding Brandon Jennings, Devin Harris, and Derrick Rose... I just don't like them.

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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2009, 09:14:20 AM »

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What is going on with Brandon Jennings? Two weeks ago he was the darling of sportswriters across the country, wildly hailed as the next coming of Allen Iverson and the next Rookie of the Year in the NBA. Today, much like in this post, people are asking what's happening to him.

In fairness scouts, never liked his shooting touch and before the draft, it was his biggest weakness. From the beginning of the season until the end of the Memphis game on Nov 21st, Jennings was shooting 48% from the field. Since then, over a span of a little under two weeks and 6 games Jennings has shot 32 for 105 or 30% from the field.

Is this just Jennings going through a slump, hitting an extra early wall as for the first time he isn't playing a very favorable schedule with little travel and lots of home games or is he just returning to his bad shooting roots that many scouts warned against before the draft?

  I think you can define his brief nba career as before55 and after55. He probably caught everyone's attention on that game and now they're paying more attention to him on the defensive end. He hasn't really had a good game since.

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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2009, 09:22:05 AM »

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What is going on with Brandon Jennings? Two weeks ago he was the darling of sportswriters across the country, wildly hailed as the next coming of Allen Iverson and the next Rookie of the Year in the NBA. Today, much like in this post, people are asking what's happening to him.

In fairness scouts, never liked his shooting touch and before the draft, it was his biggest weakness. From the beginning of the season until the end of the Memphis game on Nov 21st, Jennings was shooting 48% from the field. Since then, over a span of a little under two weeks and 6 games Jennings has shot 32 for 105 or 30% from the field.

Is this just Jennings going through a slump, hitting an extra early wall as for the first time he isn't playing a very favorable schedule with little travel and lots of home games or is he just returning to his bad shooting roots that many scouts warned against before the draft?

  I think you can define his brief nba career as before55 and after55. He probably caught everyone's attention on that game and now they're paying more attention to him on the defensive end. He hasn't really had a good game since.

I wouldn't go quite that far.  Since the 55 point game, he's had games of 25, 19, 29, and 26 points.  In only one of those games was he below 44%.  As nick says, the real slump started six games ago; since then, he hasn't cracked 34%.

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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2009, 10:14:02 AM »

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Just a slump, he clearly was playing and shooting much better than what he'll usually produce. At least more than he will for this year as a whole.

I think he'll bounce back to somewhere inbetween.

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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2009, 10:23:23 AM »

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It's called "regressing to the mean".

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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2009, 10:25:48 AM »

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Just a slump, he clearly was playing and shooting much better than what he'll usually produce. At least more than he will for this year as a whole.

I think he'll bounce back to somewhere inbetween.
Probably. Most probably actually because I doubt he's just a 30% shooter but he only shot something like 39% last year in the Euroleague and the scouts that saw him said his shot selection was bad and his shooting form worse.

I have yet to see him play but for a quarter during that nationally televised OKC/MIL game a week or so ago and in that quarter, Ersan Illysova looked like the star rookie and Jennings looked lost. I think he will bounce back, but my guess is that I don't think the scouts could be quite universally that far off on him regarding his shooting abilities.

Then again, it wouldn't be the first time they were universally wrong either.

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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2009, 10:34:06 AM »

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Jennings is a solid shooter with his feet set, mediocre off the dribble and his shot selection is questionable.

 
Rondo has 8 double doubles this year
Steve Nash has 10
Jason Kidd has 3
Derrick Rose has 1
Baron Davis has 2
Brandon Jennings has 0
Chancey Billups has 1
Devin Harris has 0
Chris Paul has 3
Tony Parker has 0
Deron Williams has 5
Gilbert Arenas has 1

You can easily see the difference between a shooting first point guard and a pass first point guard. Whose teams seem to be doing better? Call me crazy but I have never and will never understand all of the hype surrounding Brandon Jennings, Devin Harris, and Derrick Rose... I just don't like them.

Jennings Assist Rate is superior to Rondo's one in his first 2 seasons.

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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2009, 10:41:46 AM »

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I think Jennings is just in a slump right now.  No guard is going to maintain 48% shooting for the entire season.  I do think, to an extent, that he was playing a bit over his head to start off. 

He'll bounce back from this slump and I'm guessing he'll sit around 40% for the season.

IMO, he's still a great talent. 


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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2009, 10:45:10 AM »

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Jennings Assist Rate is superior to Rondo's one in his first 2 seasons.
His usage is also around 30%. Which ranks right up there with LeBron's/Kobe's/CP3s

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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2009, 10:46:17 AM »

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I think Jennings is just in a slump right now.  No guard is going to maintain 48% shooting for the entire season.
Ray Allen and Rondo take umbrage at that statement ;).

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« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2009, 10:53:15 AM »

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I actually think he's a pass-first PG forced into a shoot-first role because nobody else on his team can create any offense - Bogut is the only one, and he's been on and off the court because of injuries. 

He'll likely be like AI in the sense that he's impossible to guard when he's feeling it, but other than that I think they have different approaches to the game.  Jennings, for one, seems more coachable and more of a team player.

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« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2009, 10:56:27 AM »

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I actually think he's a pass-first PG forced into a shoot-first role because nobody else on his team can create any offense - Bogut is the only one, and he's been on and off the court because of injuries. 
I don't buy that, you can move the ball if you want to.

I don't think he's an awful chucker ala Iverson, but he's not a pass first point guard. But that's okay, with the new hand check rules a PG has to be able to score. You're passing up too many easy buckets if he doesn't.