Gerald Wallace

[nickagneta]

Put Gerald Wallace on a contending team that gets national television exposure and suddenly he is getting 1st team All-Defense and he would be getting Defensive Player of the Year Award consideration. That LeBron will make 1st team All-Defense and get DPOY votes at the same position Wallace plays goes to show what a popularity contest some of these teams and award votes are.

[twinbree]

Gerald Wallace is ridiculous. So fun to watch when he's frustrating the other teams. Not so much against us.
He's one of the bright spots on the team and I doubt the Bobcats would trade him even if they don't make the playoffs. I'd hate to meet them in the 1st round. I'm really not looking forward to our game against them next week. We can't afford to sleep walk out of the gates.

[houlana]

ur right, they always play well against us.

i will never forget the game where ray hit a three at the buzzer after the steal. classic

[wdleehi]

Just not a big fan of Wallace.  I think he is overpayed because he is on a bad team that lets him put up some offensive numbers.  Sort of like Harvey Grant when he was on those bad Bullets teams in the early 90's.


A good defender, but not a player I would trade Ray for.

[Chris]

Just not a big fan of Wallace.  I think he is overpayed because he is on a bad team that lets him put up some offensive numbers.  Sort of like Harvey Grant when he was on those bad Bullets teams in the early 90's.


A good defender, but not a player I would trade Ray for.

I agree.  I have always looked at him as a taller Tony Allen, who is (somewhat) better at staying healthy.  He can't shoot, he constantly makes bad decisions, and he is an up and down defender, who can often lose his concentration.

Now, if we could get another good piece or two with him, then perhaps it could be interesting...but I still am hesitant to bring in a guy like that to play a really big role.

[Who]

Just not a big fan of Wallace.  I think he is overpayed because he is on a bad team that lets him put up some offensive numbers.  Sort of like Harvey Grant when he was on those bad Bullets teams in the early 90's.


A good defender, but not a player I would trade Ray for.

I've always agreed with this perception of Wallace in the past ... but I've been very impressed with Gerald Wallace's growth under Larry Brown.

His defense + rebounding has become far more consistent and his decision making offensively has improved hugely too. Still, not a top option as a scorer on a good team, but a very good player nonetheless.

Gerald Wallace is a much player today than he was two years ago.

[Chris]

Just not a big fan of Wallace.  I think he is overpayed because he is on a bad team that lets him put up some offensive numbers.  Sort of like Harvey Grant when he was on those bad Bullets teams in the early 90's.


A good defender, but not a player I would trade Ray for.

I've always agreed with this perception of Wallace in the past ... but I've been very impressed with Gerald Wallace's growth under Larry Brown.

His defense + rebounding has become far more consistent and his decision making offensively has improved hugely too. Still, not a top option as a scorer on a good team, but a very good player nonetheless.

Gerald Wallace is a much player today than he was two years ago.

My biggest question with him is how would he respond to becoming a role player on a championship contender, versus a go-to scorer on a mediocre (at best) team.  The only time he has been in that role, he was very inconsistent (in Sacramento), and he has only broken out since he was given the keys to Charlotte.  I think he really needs to play on the ball to be effective offensively, and that doesn't work on this team.

[wdleehi]

Just not a big fan of Wallace.  I think he is overpayed because he is on a bad team that lets him put up some offensive numbers.  Sort of like Harvey Grant when he was on those bad Bullets teams in the early 90's.


A good defender, but not a player I would trade Ray for.

I've always agreed with this perception of Wallace in the past ... but I've been very impressed with Gerald Wallace's growth under Larry Brown.

His defense + rebounding has become far more consistent and his decision making offensively has improved hugely too. Still, not a top option as a scorer on a good team, but a very good player nonetheless.

Gerald Wallace is a much player today than he was two years ago.

My biggest question with him is how would he respond to becoming a role player on a championship contender, versus a go-to scorer on a mediocre (at best) team.  The only time he has been in that role, he was very inconsistent (in Sacramento), and he has only broken out since he was given the keys to Charlotte.  I think he really needs to play on the ball to be effective offensively, and that doesn't work on this team.

While I think he could easily be a contributor on a title team, he is payed just to much right now.

[Junkyard Dawg]

I agree.  I have always looked at him as a taller Tony Allen, who is (somewhat) better at staying healthy.  He can't shoot, he constantly makes bad decisions, and he is an up and down defender, who can often lose his concentration.

Now, if we could get another good piece or two with him, then perhaps it could be interesting...but I still am hesitant to bring in a guy like that to play a really big role.

Oh man, i dunno.  i've thought for years wallace is the most underrated player in the nba.  i think the only thing that holds him back is his playing style, which a lot of people think is too reckless... the C's would have to give up at least ray allen for him, and i don't think it's a given he'd want to come off the bench, especially considering after that trade the Bobcats could make the playoffs

[Who]

Just not a big fan of Wallace.  I think he is overpayed because he is on a bad team that lets him put up some offensive numbers.  Sort of like Harvey Grant when he was on those bad Bullets teams in the early 90's.


A good defender, but not a player I would trade Ray for.

I've always agreed with this perception of Wallace in the past ... but I've been very impressed with Gerald Wallace's growth under Larry Brown.

His defense + rebounding has become far more consistent and his decision making offensively has improved hugely too. Still, not a top option as a scorer on a good team, but a very good player nonetheless.

Gerald Wallace is a much player today than he was two years ago.

My biggest question with him is how would he respond to becoming a role player on a championship contender, versus a go-to scorer on a mediocre (at best) team.  The only time he has been in that role, he was very inconsistent (in Sacramento), and he has only broken out since he was given the keys to Charlotte.  I think he really needs to play on the ball to be effective offensively, and that doesn't work on this team.

I don't think Wallace is a large difference maker on a contender offensively ... but he can be a large difference maker with his defense + rebounding.

Somewhat similar to Luol Deng ...

Both Wallace and Deng would be fine third or fourth options on a team that either has two excellent scorers (Shaq/Kobe) or four quality scoring options (Duncan, Parker, Manu, Wallace).

[Who]

Like I said, I was very negative on Wallace in the past and thought he was grossly overpaid ... but I think he's earning his paycheck these days ($9.5 million). I'd have no problem paying him that salary.

15-16 points (solid scoring) + 7.5 rebounds (excellent rebounding) + very good-to-excellent defense = $10 million range

[Chris]

Just not a big fan of Wallace.  I think he is overpayed because he is on a bad team that lets him put up some offensive numbers.  Sort of like Harvey Grant when he was on those bad Bullets teams in the early 90's.


A good defender, but not a player I would trade Ray for.

I've always agreed with this perception of Wallace in the past ... but I've been very impressed with Gerald Wallace's growth under Larry Brown.

His defense + rebounding has become far more consistent and his decision making offensively has improved hugely too. Still, not a top option as a scorer on a good team, but a very good player nonetheless.

Gerald Wallace is a much player today than he was two years ago.

My biggest question with him is how would he respond to becoming a role player on a championship contender, versus a go-to scorer on a mediocre (at best) team.  The only time he has been in that role, he was very inconsistent (in Sacramento), and he has only broken out since he was given the keys to Charlotte.  I think he really needs to play on the ball to be effective offensively, and that doesn't work on this team.

I don't think Wallace is a large difference maker on a contender offensively ... but he can be a large difference maker with his defense + rebounding.

Somewhat similar to Luol Deng ...

Both Wallace and Deng would be fine third or fourth options on a team that either has two excellent scorers (Shaq/Kobe) or four quality scoring options (Duncan, Parker, Manu, Wallace).

While I think they are comparable defensively, I think the difference between Deng and Wallace offensively is that Deng is a natural role player.  He is a good shooter, and passer, and really is an excellent complimentary player.  Wallace on the other hand, does not seem comfortable (much like Tony Allen) as a role player.  Because of this, I think he could actually take something off the table offensively, since he would asked to play out of his comfort zone, while someone like Deng adds a lot, despite the fact that he would not be a top option.  

[scoop]

Like I said, I was very negative on Wallace in the past and thought he was grossly overpaid ... but I think he's earning his paycheck these days ($9.5 million). I'd have no problem paying him that salary.

15-16 points (solid scoring) + 7.5 rebounds (excellent rebounding) + very good-to-excellent defense = $10 million range

Agreed. As you've said, he's been learning a lot under Brown.

[Junkyard Dawg]

Wallace on the other hand, does not seem comfortable (much like Tony Allen) as a role player

Could be true, but remember a few seasons ago JRich was there and had a career season, or close to it.. Id be inclined to think if Wallace wasn't the go-to guy and was able to focus on defense he would be simply filthy.

having said that, him on the C's is a long shot, and that's an understatement.

[twinbree]

Well another night another blowout in the making for the Bobcats. It feels like Twilight Zone territory. I haven't watched them play so I have to wonder. Is it the addition of Jackson that is having this much of an impact?