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Re: Red Sox Are Goin After Roy Halladay
« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2009, 10:38:53 PM »

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Right, I mean the more pitching the better, but I just don't think it needs to be the primary need on this team right now.  You have Beckett, Lester, Dice-K, Buchholz and Wakefield, I am assuming that is your rotation going into the season unless an injury occurs.  Where does Lackey fit?  I understand going after a guy like Ben Sheets, but not Lackey.  I also prefer Holliday over Bay.  If bay wants the same money as Holliday, the sox need to let Bay walk.

If they trade Buchholz for a bat, though, there's still a hole in the pitching staff.  Plus, they need to be concerned about future seasons, too; Wakefield is old, and isn't Beckett a free agent soon?

They definitely need to upgrade the lineup significantly, but the pitching staff could use some work, too.

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Re: Red Sox Are Goin After Roy Halladay
« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2009, 10:57:39 PM »

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Right, I mean the more pitching the better, but I just don't think it needs to be the primary need on this team right now.  You have Beckett, Lester, Dice-K, Buchholz and Wakefield, I am assuming that is your rotation going into the season unless an injury occurs.  Where does Lackey fit?  I understand going after a guy like Ben Sheets, but not Lackey.  I also prefer Holliday over Bay.  If bay wants the same money as Holliday, the sox need to let Bay walk.

If they trade Buchholz for a bat, though, there's still a hole in the pitching staff.  Plus, they need to be concerned about future seasons, too; Wakefield is old, and isn't Beckett a free agent soon?

They definitely need to upgrade the lineup significantly, but the pitching staff could use some work, too.

Well, the problem is that they have a much bigger need in the middle of the order than they do at the top of the rotation.  If Beckett, Lester, and Dice-K pitch how they are supposed to, the Sox can fill in the rest of the rotation with Wakefield, and a couple decent veterans.  There are actually a good number of talented pitchers out there, its just that most of them are coming off injuries. 

Ultimately, I don't like looking it as pitching versus hitting.  I like to look at it as trading for a 32 year old All-Star with a TON of miles on his arm, or trading for a guy in his mid 20's. 

I just have a lot of concerns about Halladay breaking down at some point in the next few years.

Re: Red Sox Are Goin After Roy Halladay
« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2009, 11:15:22 PM »

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Right, I mean the more pitching the better, but I just don't think it needs to be the primary need on this team right now.  You have Beckett, Lester, Dice-K, Buchholz and Wakefield, I am assuming that is your rotation going into the season unless an injury occurs.  Where does Lackey fit?  I understand going after a guy like Ben Sheets, but not Lackey.  I also prefer Holliday over Bay.  If bay wants the same money as Holliday, the sox need to let Bay walk.

If they trade Buchholz for a bat, though, there's still a hole in the pitching staff.  Plus, they need to be concerned about future seasons, too; Wakefield is old, and isn't Beckett a free agent soon?

They definitely need to upgrade the lineup significantly, but the pitching staff could use some work, too.

Well, the problem is that they have a much bigger need in the middle of the order than they do at the top of the rotation.  If Beckett, Lester, and Dice-K pitch how they are supposed to, the Sox can fill in the rest of the rotation with Wakefield, and a couple decent veterans.  There are actually a good number of talented pitchers out there, its just that most of them are coming off injuries. 

Ultimately, I don't like looking it as pitching versus hitting.  I like to look at it as trading for a 32 year old All-Star with a TON of miles on his arm, or trading for a guy in his mid 20's. 

I just have a lot of concerns about Halladay breaking down at some point in the next few years.

I was responding to the point about "where does Lackey fit?".  If the Sox upgrade their hitting via trading Buchholz, they're going to want to upgrade the pitching staff.  Doing that via free agency would make some sense to me.

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Re: Red Sox Are Goin After Roy Halladay
« Reply #33 on: November 30, 2009, 11:17:18 PM »

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Right, I mean the more pitching the better, but I just don't think it needs to be the primary need on this team right now.  You have Beckett, Lester, Dice-K, Buchholz and Wakefield, I am assuming that is your rotation going into the season unless an injury occurs.  Where does Lackey fit?  I understand going after a guy like Ben Sheets, but not Lackey.  I also prefer Holliday over Bay.  If bay wants the same money as Holliday, the sox need to let Bay walk.

If they trade Buchholz for a bat, though, there's still a hole in the pitching staff.  Plus, they need to be concerned about future seasons, too; Wakefield is old, and isn't Beckett a free agent soon?

They definitely need to upgrade the lineup significantly, but the pitching staff could use some work, too.

Well, the problem is that they have a much bigger need in the middle of the order than they do at the top of the rotation.  If Beckett, Lester, and Dice-K pitch how they are supposed to, the Sox can fill in the rest of the rotation with Wakefield, and a couple decent veterans.  There are actually a good number of talented pitchers out there, its just that most of them are coming off injuries. 

Ultimately, I don't like looking it as pitching versus hitting.  I like to look at it as trading for a 32 year old All-Star with a TON of miles on his arm, or trading for a guy in his mid 20's. 

I just have a lot of concerns about Halladay breaking down at some point in the next few years.

I was responding to the point about "where does Lackey fit?".  If the Sox upgrade their hitting via trading Buchholz, they're going to want to upgrade the pitching staff.  Doing that via free agency would make some sense to me.

Ah, my bad.