Brandon Jennings Drops 55 on the Warriors

[Who]

I picked him up in my head to head fantasy league after maybe his 2nd game. I figured in 4 more games he'd fall back to Earth. He was like a 35% shooter till he started playing games that count. Now there are very very very few guys I trade him for. I'd consider Derron Williams, Joe Johnson, but don't even come here with weak azz Baron Davis or Jason Kidd or Chauncey Billups or something.

He's like Iverson with a good fg%.

I like the way he walks and talks. He's infusing the Bucks with pride they haven't felt since maybe the 1970s

I love love love it when a cocky player who knows he's the best goes on a personal mission to humble the entire league.

He was humbled in Italy and took things people said about him personally and now it's payback revenge time.

random prediction:  the field goal percentage will not last.  By the end of the season he'll be shooting around 40%

Agreed -- Jennings is a streak shooter (with an iffy shot selection) who's going through a hot patch right now. Those FG% will plummet.

[JPMmiles]

Brandon Jenning's = The next Allen Iverson.

Just a reality check:  Allen Iverson never won anything.

The other guy he reminds me of?  Gilbert Arenas...who also has never won anything.

Scoring point guards can make for some great highlight films but are typically terrible at winning championships.  So he might be Rookie of the Year and he might average 25+ ppg for his career.  But I think it's going to lead to a lot of frustration and disappointment.

[Chris]

Jennings reminds me of Rondo with a jumpshot.  There, I said it.  Despite the fact that he scored a ton of points, he has a real feel for the game, and is absolutely a true PG.  He also is a very aggressive defensive player when he wants to be, and can really hurt people with his quickness. 

[Amonkey]

People are focusing on the scoring aspect of it, but remember that on his first game he was only one assist and rebound away from a triple double.  Plus, Milwaukee is winning.

[Casperian]

Tiny Archibald.  

I think Bucks fans have a lot to look forward to. Over the last two years, I became kind of a closet-Bucksfan. Long tradition, the best announcers in the league (behind Mike & Tommy, of course) and Andrew Bogut.

Seriously, people complain that Perk is underrated (and he is), but Bogut is even more so. If Jennings can keep this up, they have the chance to be a force in the east for years to come, imo.

[Hoops]

Shoot!  I had him picked up on fantasy basketball but dropped him before the first game.  I completely regret it now.

He's on my team.  Filling in for Chris Paul atm who is out for a couple weeks.


Oh, and ps...I saw from the ESPN.com recap that the last time a rookie scored 55 or more was 1968.  Other rookies who scored that much: Wilt Chamberlain, Elgin Baylor, Rick Barry.  Not bad company.

Sorry - had to comment on this because my dad and I were just talking about this last night. You totally didn't even mention the Big O! Oscar Robertson was that last guy to score over 55 points as a rookie in 1968 - you didn't even mention him. As my dad and I were discussing, the Big O is fairly famous among people who really know the game of basketball, but he's still probably the most under-appreciated superstar to ever play basketball. Dude scored 56 points in a game as a rook and was the only player in history to AVERAGE almost a triple-double. He was way ahead of his time and it's too bad that he gets overlooked so much today.

[...end of rant...now back to your regularly-scheduled Brandon Jennings discussion...]

[Roy Hobbs]

. . .and was the only player in history to AVERAGE almost a triple-double. He was way ahead of his time and it's too bad that he gets overlooked so much today.

Even in your defense against those short-changing the Big O, you shortchanged him.   He didn't *almost* average a triple double, he *did* average a triple double.  In 1961-62, he averaged 30.8 points, 12.5 rebounds, and 11.4 assists (on very respectable 47.8% shooting). 

The amazing thing that many people forget is that, other than that season, he had four other seasons averaging at least 28 points, 9.0 rebounds, and 9.5 assists.  Once, he missed averaging a triple-double by 0.3 assists, and another time, by only 0.1 rebounds.  Unreal.

[Cman]

Brandon Jenning's = The next Allen Iverson.

Just a reality check:  Allen Iverson never won anything.

The other guy he reminds me of?  Gilbert Arenas...who also has never won anything.

Well, maybe third time's the charm?
Just the fact that Jennings is considered in the same breath as AI and Gilbert Arenas says enough.  The kid is special.

[PosImpos]

Shoot!  I had him picked up on fantasy basketball but dropped him before the first game.  I completely regret it now.

He's on my team.  Filling in for Chris Paul atm who is out for a couple weeks.


Oh, and ps...I saw from the ESPN.com recap that the last time a rookie scored 55 or more was 1968.  Other rookies who scored that much: Wilt Chamberlain, Elgin Baylor, Rick Barry.  Not bad company.

Sorry - had to comment on this because my dad and I were just talking about this last night. You totally didn't even mention the Big O! Oscar Robertson was that last guy to score over 55 points as a rookie in 1968 - you didn't even mention him. As my dad and I were discussing, the Big O is fairly famous among people who really know the game of basketball, but he's still probably the most under-appreciated superstar to ever play basketball. Dude scored 56 points in a game as a rook and was the only player in history to AVERAGE almost a triple-double. He was way ahead of his time and it's too bad that he gets overlooked so much today.

[...end of rant...now back to your regularly-scheduled Brandon Jennings discussion...]

Sorry, I knew there were other names on the list I just didn't remember them.

Anyway, the point is, Jennings is in some pretty amazing company.

Also, don't short-change Jennings yet.  Just because he's a big scorer doesn't mean he's an all out scoring guard like Iverson or Arenas.  Iverson wasn't successful because he wasn't a team player.  Arenas hasn't been successful in large part because of all his injuries.

There's no telling yet that Jennings can't be a distributor and a leader, and as such there's nothing to suggest he'll face the same problems Iverson and Arenas have in terms of winning.

[Amonkey]

Shoot!  I had him picked up on fantasy basketball but dropped him before the first game.  I completely regret it now.

He's on my team.  Filling in for Chris Paul atm who is out for a couple weeks.


Oh, and ps...I saw from the ESPN.com recap that the last time a rookie scored 55 or more was 1968.  Other rookies who scored that much: Wilt Chamberlain, Elgin Baylor, Rick Barry.  Not bad company.

Sorry - had to comment on this because my dad and I were just talking about this last night. You totally didn't even mention the Big O! Oscar Robertson was that last guy to score over 55 points as a rookie in 1968 - you didn't even mention him. As my dad and I were discussing, the Big O is fairly famous among people who really know the game of basketball, but he's still probably the most under-appreciated superstar to ever play basketball. Dude scored 56 points in a game as a rook and was the only player in history to AVERAGE almost a triple-double. He was way ahead of his time and it's too bad that he gets overlooked so much today.

[...end of rant...now back to your regularly-scheduled Brandon Jennings discussion...]

Sorry, I knew there were other names on the list I just didn't remember them.

Anyway, the point is, Jennings is in some pretty amazing company.

Also, don't short-change Jennings yet.  Just because he's a big scorer doesn't mean he's an all out scoring guard like Iverson or Arenas.  Iverson wasn't successful because he wasn't a team player.  Arenas hasn't been successful in large part because of all his injuries.

There's no telling yet that Jennings can't be a distributor and a leader, and as such there's nothing to suggest he'll face the same problems Iverson and Arenas have in terms of winning.

One could argue that Iverson wasn't succesful because he didn't have enough players around him to win that ring.  His Philly team did play well with only Iverson as the star.  Jennings has a decent core in Bogut and.... shoot, who else is on that team that is worth mentioning?

[JPMmiles]

Brandon Jenning's = The next Allen Iverson.

Just a reality check:  Allen Iverson never won anything.

The other guy he reminds me of?  Gilbert Arenas...who also has never won anything.

Well, maybe third time's the charm?
Just the fact that Jennings is considered in the same breath as AI and Gilbert Arenas says enough.  The kid is special.

Fair enough.  He just may be the solution to their problems.

I was just pointing out that there are few if any success stories (success measured in championships) of scoring point guards in the history of the NBA.

[Bosstown]

I saw this kid play 3 years ago at Oak Hill and let me just say the Allen Iverson comparisons simply are not fair. So he can score and is a point gaurd, Jennings is also a GREAT passer something that A.I never was. Jennings reminds me more of a guy you might remember named Kenny Anderson.

To all the head scratchers asking why he was a "flop" in Europe, the style of play over is really slowed down and Jennings is a guy who loves to run. Top it off with the fact that he didn't seem to get a lot of minutes equals his numbers. Europe humbled the kid and made him work his ass off to be where he is, Brandon is extremely motivated.

Oh and somewhere Donnie Walsh is about to hop off the Empire State building for taking that stiff Jordan Hill over Jennings...

[PosImpos]

Shoot!  I had him picked up on fantasy basketball but dropped him before the first game.  I completely regret it now.

He's on my team.  Filling in for Chris Paul atm who is out for a couple weeks.


Oh, and ps...I saw from the ESPN.com recap that the last time a rookie scored 55 or more was 1968.  Other rookies who scored that much: Wilt Chamberlain, Elgin Baylor, Rick Barry.  Not bad company.

Sorry - had to comment on this because my dad and I were just talking about this last night. You totally didn't even mention the Big O! Oscar Robertson was that last guy to score over 55 points as a rookie in 1968 - you didn't even mention him. As my dad and I were discussing, the Big O is fairly famous among people who really know the game of basketball, but he's still probably the most under-appreciated superstar to ever play basketball. Dude scored 56 points in a game as a rook and was the only player in history to AVERAGE almost a triple-double. He was way ahead of his time and it's too bad that he gets overlooked so much today.

[...end of rant...now back to your regularly-scheduled Brandon Jennings discussion...]

Sorry, I knew there were other names on the list I just didn't remember them.

Anyway, the point is, Jennings is in some pretty amazing company.

Also, don't short-change Jennings yet.  Just because he's a big scorer doesn't mean he's an all out scoring guard like Iverson or Arenas.  Iverson wasn't successful because he wasn't a team player.  Arenas hasn't been successful in large part because of all his injuries.

There's no telling yet that Jennings can't be a distributor and a leader, and as such there's nothing to suggest he'll face the same problems Iverson and Arenas have in terms of winning.

 Jennings has a decent core in Bogut and.... shoot, who else is on that team that is worth mentioning?

Michael Redd can still play if his knee doesn't explode, and he's just about 30 if I'm not mistaken - so good for another few years, at least as a shooter.

Mbah a Moute is actually pretty solid, same goes for Hakim Warrick.  Both solid young roleplayers.

It's true, the Bucks don't have much else besides that.  They would be pretty good if they still had Richard Jefferson.

[LarBrd33]

I picked him up in my head to head fantasy league after maybe his 2nd game. I figured in 4 more games he'd fall back to Earth. He was like a 35% shooter till he started playing games that count. Now there are very very very few guys I trade him for. I'd consider Derron Williams, Joe Johnson, but don't even come here with weak azz Baron Davis or Jason Kidd or Chauncey Billups or something.

He's like Iverson with a good fg%.

I like the way he walks and talks. He's infusing the Bucks with pride they haven't felt since maybe the 1970s

I love love love it when a cocky player who knows he's the best goes on a personal mission to humble the entire league.

He was humbled in Italy and took things people said about him personally and now it's payback revenge time.

random prediction:  the field goal percentage will not last.  By the end of the season he'll be shooting around 40%

Agreed -- Jennings is a streak shooter (with an iffy shot selection) who's going through a hot patch right now. Those FG% will plummet.

I just don't get how he can shot like 33% in europe and 33% in the preseason and then suddenly turn into a consistent 49% shooter.  Not happening.  He's streaking.  I'm guessing he's going to have a few 2 for 17 games pretty soon. 

I hope not.  It'd be pretty exciting if some 20 year old kid just busted onto the scene and dominated.   But I just can't see it happening.  55 points in the 7th game of his career is pretty freakin amazing though considering that Iverson's career high is 60.

The last time I was like, "oh snap" about a midget rookie was when 19 year old Dajuan Wagner busted into the league and had 17 points, 5 points, 29 points, 28 points, 25 points, 29 points, 18 points, 7 points, 33 points... and then his career was pretty much over from there.    That's the kid who scored 100 points in a high school game.  But to be fair to Jennings, Wagner wasn't shooting that high of a percentage when he went on his early rookie scoring explosion.

Another unfair comparison...   I remember when Ronald Murray joined the Sonics after being pretty average his first couple years... he filled in for Ray Allen and this was his game log to start the season: 24 points, 22 points, 24 points, 24 points, 29 points, 20 points, 16 points, 26 points, 31 points, 26 points, 21 points...    the highlight of his career.  People eventually realized he was a streaky ballhog shooter and he's puttered around the league ever since.

I'm sure Jennings is going to have a far better career than either of those guys...  but i'm just saying that an early season hot streak isn't unprecedented.

[Amonkey]

People are already talking about him being a streaky shooter and somewhat implying that he is a ballhog and just a scoring point guard.  However, there is one thing that is being underrated in this discussion.  His team is WINNING!  Considering that you best players are Bogus, I mean Bogut, the Prince, and Hakim Warrick (I believe Redd is out but correct me if I am wrong).  Therefore this team should have no business winning games.  By meaning I mean a decent 5-2 record.