2009 CB NBA Draft as a fantasy basketball league.

[RebusRankin]

It is clear that the system cannot appreciate the greatness that is the Buffalo Braves. It's not us, it's the system.

[nickagneta]

It is clear that the system cannot appreciate the greatness that is the Buffalo Braves. It's not us, it's the system.

Of course its the system RR. It's biased against Canadian owners and has nothing to do with players that under perform.

[RebusRankin]

It is clear that the system cannot appreciate the greatness that is the Buffalo Braves. It's not us, it's the system.

Of course its the system RR. It's biased against Canadian owners and has nothing to do with players that under perform.
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Underperform? I hear Kleiza is doing great in Russia or wherever he went. I also hear Antawn in rocking his rehab. Those empty roster spots? Tough economic times.

[StartOrien]

"I like, our chances."

[Evantime34]

Team in that West that surprises me and that I think will eventually fall and be replaced in the top 8 with IP's Phoenix team is Memphis. Right now they are riding the hot starts of Brook Lopez, Andrea Bargnani, Louis Amundson, and Omar Casspri. When the stats for those guys cool off, Memphis will fall fast.

Or is it possible that the Memphis GM is an above average judge of talent and ability and thus made good decisions that others questioned throughout the draft? I mean, there's got to be some way to prove that... Oh wait, Didn't Wes Matthews drop 12 points in 17 minutes against the Spurs last night?

No idea about the other three, but I don't expect Lopez's numbers to decline.  He's the real deal.

I voted Memphis into the playoffs, but I think the issue for those that didn't was that the pieces wouldn't mesh very well.

I think Amundson is benefitting from how fast the Suns are playing so I don't expect those numbers are gonna drop. Bargs' numbers are for real, they are slightly better then they were the second half of last year. Casspi I have high hopes for, he'll either join the starting line up now that KMart is out or he'll hit a massive Rookie Wall.

If these numbers were any reasoning to be tooting one's horn KC believe me I would, as the Boxers from the numbers look to be an obvious playoff team and even have those numbers while having a slow start from Stephen Jackson and having Ramon Sessions being squeezed out of a starting job in Minny by Johnny Flyn.

I am going to use this opportunity to toot my own horn as loud as possible. I agree that these numbers don't take into account things like defense but this has less of an impact on my team. My team is an uptempo high scoring bunch that takes a lot of 3's. So the argument could be made that these numbers accurately judge my team. Nash and Boozer are playing very good ball to start the season, Deng's play should allay any of the rebounding concerns about my team (that boozer was the only one that rebounds).

I still agree that voting is the best way to do this. However, I believe that if numbers like this had come out before the vote. The voting might have been more accurate. We could also have a revote at the all star break or after the season based on exceeded expectations and injuries.

All in all I really enjoy doing this draft every summer and I hope it continues.

[Rondo2287]

Ya Evan, your team has been nasty so far.  I think this, "I told you so period," is incredibly.  Im already incredibly glad that I let go of Gilbert haha

[KCattheStripe]

TP is injured, time for the Mo Williams show!

[JSD]

I mean, good work Nick but you've turned this into fantasy sports... Still better than the "official" system I suppose. TP for the effort, I'm looking forward to IP's simulation.

[nickagneta]

Can anyone deny that when I said I had a great rebounding team and great defensive team(with starters Luis Scola, gerald Wallace, Joel Przybilla, Stephen Jackson and Ramon Sessions) that I was right? The Boxers have 3 of the top per game rebounders in the league(including the best in Wallace). The Boxers have three of the top per minute rebounders in the league(including the best in Przybilla).

The Boxers claimed that the bench was young and deep and that players like George Hill(who will start getting starting time and big numbers in SA), Julian Wright(now starting in NO), Anthony Morrow(proving what a great shooter and scorer he is night in and night out, currently over 50% from the field and from three) and Kris Humphries(solid ninth man) would shine. I think the numbers look good so far.

But because the big names weren't there, the Boxers didn't get the votes. But then again most who voted probably would never have thought that a team made up of Scola, Landry, Cook, Battier, Artest, Lowry, Brooks, and Hayes would have taken the Lakers to seven games or currently be an extremely impressive group.

[JSD]

Can anyone deny that when I said I had a great rebounding team and great defensive team(with starters Luis Scola, gerald Wallace, Joel Przybilla, Stephen Jackson and Ramon Sessions) that I was right? The Boxers have 3 of the top per game rebounders in the league(including the best in Wallace). The Boxers have three of the top per minute rebounders in the league(including the best in Przybilla).

The Boxers claimed that the bench was young and deep and that players like George Hill(who will start getting starting time and big numbers in SA), Julian Wright(now starting in NO), Anthony Morrow(proving what a great shooter and scorer he is night in and night out, currently over 50% from the field and from three) and Kris Humphries(solid ninth man) would shine. I think the numbers look good so far.

But because the big names weren't there, the Boxers didn't get the votes. But then again most who voted probably would never have thought that a team made up of Scola, Landry, Cook, Battier, Artest, Lowry, Brooks, and Hayes would have taken the Lakers to seven games or currently be an extremely impressive group.

If your argument is "voting is flawed" I'm with you. I think the best indication of true results is simulation through 2k10... But that's not flawless either.

[StartOrien]

Can anyone deny that when I said I had a great rebounding team and great defensive team(with starters Luis Scola, gerald Wallace, Joel Przybilla, Stephen Jackson and Ramon Sessions) that I was right? The Boxers have 3 of the top per game rebounders in the league(including the best in Wallace). The Boxers have three of the top per minute rebounders in the league(including the best in Przybilla).

The Boxers claimed that the bench was young and deep and that players like George Hill(who will start getting starting time and big numbers in SA), Julian Wright(now starting in NO), Anthony Morrow(proving what a great shooter and scorer he is night in and night out, currently over 50% from the field and from three) and Kris Humphries(solid ninth man) would shine. I think the numbers look good so far.

I wouldn't say that just because your team can rebound means that it'd be a success.

[KCattheStripe]

Can anyone deny that when I said I had a great rebounding team and great defensive team(with starters Luis Scola, gerald Wallace, Joel Przybilla, Stephen Jackson and Ramon Sessions) that I was right? The Boxers have 3 of the top per game rebounders in the league(including the best in Wallace). The Boxers have three of the top per minute rebounders in the league(including the best in Przybilla).

The Boxers claimed that the bench was young and deep and that players like George Hill(who will start getting starting time and big numbers in SA), Julian Wright(now starting in NO), Anthony Morrow(proving what a great shooter and scorer he is night in and night out, currently over 50% from the field and from three) and Kris Humphries(solid ninth man) would shine. I think the numbers look good so far.

I wouldn't say that just because your team can rebound means that it'd be a success.

+1, especially when you consider that you're starting two back ups.

[Roy Hobbs]

Can anyone deny that when I said I had a great rebounding team and great defensive team(with starters Luis Scola, gerald Wallace, Joel Przybilla, Stephen Jackson and Ramon Sessions) that I was right? The Boxers have 3 of the top per game rebounders in the league(including the best in Wallace). The Boxers have three of the top per minute rebounders in the league(including the best in Przybilla).

The Boxers claimed that the bench was young and deep and that players like George Hill(who will start getting starting time and big numbers in SA), Julian Wright(now starting in NO), Anthony Morrow(proving what a great shooter and scorer he is night in and night out, currently over 50% from the field and from three) and Kris Humphries(solid ninth man) would shine. I think the numbers look good so far.

But because the big names weren't there, the Boxers didn't get the votes. But then again most who voted probably would never have thought that a team made up of Scola, Landry, Cook, Battier, Artest, Lowry, Brooks, and Hayes would have taken the Lakers to seven games or currently be an extremely impressive group.

You can't be happy with the early season developments concerning Stephen Jackson (team cancer, coach killer) and Ramon Sessions (just not that good), can you?

[nickagneta]

Can anyone deny that when I said I had a great rebounding team and great defensive team(with starters Luis Scola, gerald Wallace, Joel Przybilla, Stephen Jackson and Ramon Sessions) that I was right? The Boxers have 3 of the top per game rebounders in the league(including the best in Wallace). The Boxers have three of the top per minute rebounders in the league(including the best in Przybilla).

The Boxers claimed that the bench was young and deep and that players like George Hill(who will start getting starting time and big numbers in SA), Julian Wright(now starting in NO), Anthony Morrow(proving what a great shooter and scorer he is night in and night out, currently over 50% from the field and from three) and Kris Humphries(solid ninth man) would shine. I think the numbers look good so far.

I wouldn't say that just because your team can rebound means that it'd be a success.

Gee, I didn't know that was the only thing I said. I thought I also said they were a great defensive group. Wallace, Jackson, Scola and Przybilla are all known to be great defensive players and great team defensive players. I also mentioned bench contributions.

And if you don't think being the possible best rebounding team means success then I guess knowing that last year's leading rebounding team was the Lakers and the year's before the Cavs  or the 50 win Bulls the year before or the World Champion Heat the year before or the 62 win Suns the year before means nothing to you.

[KCattheStripe]

Can anyone deny that when I said I had a great rebounding team and great defensive team(with starters Luis Scola, gerald Wallace, Joel Przybilla, Stephen Jackson and Ramon Sessions) that I was right? The Boxers have 3 of the top per game rebounders in the league(including the best in Wallace). The Boxers have three of the top per minute rebounders in the league(including the best in Przybilla).

The Boxers claimed that the bench was young and deep and that players like George Hill(who will start getting starting time and big numbers in SA), Julian Wright(now starting in NO), Anthony Morrow(proving what a great shooter and scorer he is night in and night out, currently over 50% from the field and from three) and Kris Humphries(solid ninth man) would shine. I think the numbers look good so far.

I wouldn't say that just because your team can rebound means that it'd be a success.

Gee, I didn't know that was the only thing I said. I thought I also said they were a great defensive group. Wallace, Jackson, Scola and Przybilla are all known to be great defensive players and great team defensive players. I also mentioned bench contributions.

And if you don't think being the possible best rebounding team means success then I guess knowing that last year's leading rebounding team was the Lakers and the year's before the Cavs  or the 50 win Bulls the year before or the World Champion Heat the year before or the 62 win Suns the year before means nothing to you.

Two points about the rebounding of your team:

1) I have you in the mix of top 4 rebounding teams with the 76ers, Denver and Phoenix.
2) Except for the Lakers,none of those teams won a championship. So, no, I don't think rebounding is everything. Nor do i think your team is that good defensively, Pryz is overrated and if Sessions was a lock down defender, he'd be starting over Flynn.