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Re: Adam Morrison
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2009, 03:42:53 PM »

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The fact that the OP used Bird in the same sentence made me throw up in my mouth a little.   :-X

coming out of college though everybody was comparing him to Bird though, but ya, just never panned out.

First off, it was not everybody and second it's was only because they are 2 ugly white guys. That's where the comparison ends. Had either one of them not been white, nobody would compare their games. Morrisons doesn't have 1/10th the court vision Bird has. Nor is he anywhere near the rebounder or passer Bird was. Sillest comparison I've ever heard.

Agreed similar to the silly notion that Dirk is comparable to or better than Larry.  Of course that came from some the jealous hack broadcasters.
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Re: Adam Morrison
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2009, 03:44:08 PM »

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The fact that the OP used Bird in the same sentence made me throw up in my mouth a little.   :-X

coming out of college though everybody was comparing him to Bird though, but ya, just never panned out.

First off, it was not everybody and second it's was only because they are 2 ugly white guys. That's where the comparison ends. Had either one of them not been white, nobody would compare their games. Morrisons doesn't have 1/10th the court vision Bird has. Nor is he anywhere near the rebounder or passer Bird was. Sillest comparison I've ever heard.


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Re: Adam Morrison
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2009, 03:44:20 PM »

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I'd be okay with bringing him in on a minimum contract this summer.
Here is the question, Roy...could Doc and Thibs get some defense out of this dude?

I'd be afraid that he'd slack and KG would hand tear that stache off.

Re: Adam Morrison
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2009, 03:44:28 PM »

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The fact that the OP used Bird in the same sentence made me throw up in my mouth a little.   :-X

coming out of college though everybody was comparing him to Bird though, but ya, just never panned out.

First off, it was not everybody and second it's was only because they are 2 ugly white guys. That's where the comparison ends. Had either one of them not been white, nobody would compare their games. Morrisons doesn't have 1/10th the court vision Bird has. Nor is he anywhere near the rebounder or passer Bird was. Sillest comparison I've ever heard.

Agreed similar to the silly notion that Dirk is comparable to or better than Larry.  Of course that came from some the jealous hack broadcasters.
Dirk's peak isn't what Larry's was, but if he keeps it up his longevity will put him in the conversation.

Re: Adam Morrison
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2009, 03:44:31 PM »

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The fact that the OP used Bird in the same sentence made me throw up in my mouth a little.   :-X

coming out of college though everybody was comparing him to Bird though, but ya, just never panned out.

First off, it was not everybody and second it's was only because they are 2 ugly white guys. That's where the comparison ends. Had either one of them not been white, nobody would compare their games. Morrisons doesn't have 1/10th the court vision Bird has. Nor is he anywhere near the rebounder or passer Bird was. Sillest comparison I've ever heard.

Agreed similar to the silly notion that Dirk is comparable to better than Larry.  Of course that came from some the jealous hack broadcasters.


I think it's fair to say Dirk has a comparable skill set to Larry. I mean the man is a lights out shooter, can take most PF's off the dribble and... oh yeah... he was an MVP!

Re: Adam Morrison
« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2009, 03:47:12 PM »

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I think if Morrison is ever going to play in this league even as a role player he'll need to spend some time in the D-League or overseas.  He needs to play at a level where he can develop and gain confidence.  If he can do that, maybe he'll come back to the NBA at some point as a role playing shooter.  It might be too late for him at this point, though.
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Re: Adam Morrison
« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2009, 03:49:12 PM »

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Wait a minute. In his rookie season Morrison averaged just about 12 points a game and was on the the all NBA Rookie second team.

I mean that wasnt a 'bust'. He then tears his anterior cruciate ligament....and gets traded. And thats it ? To make things more challenging he has type 1 diabetes and wears a insulin pump whilst he plays.

This isnt a Adam Morrison lovefest. Reality is, maybe he doesnt make it. But its not like he just didnt try and failed. He has had setbacks and maybe his career is done, but I would take a gamble on him.

Problem is really...he made plenty money already without even succeeding.

Re: Adam Morrison
« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2009, 03:50:13 PM »

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I'd be okay with bringing him in on a minimum contract this summer.
Here is the question, Roy...could Doc and Thibs get some defense out of this dude?

I'd be afraid that he'd slack and KG would hand tear that stache off.

That's what you hope for.  For a minimum contract, what do you have to lose?  If he's a cheaper version of J.R. Giddens' (in terms of role), so be it.

He'll never be a lockdown defender, but his can be passable.  It all depends upon what sort of effort he's willing to put in.

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Re: Adam Morrison
« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2009, 03:51:08 PM »

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I'd be okay with bringing him in on a minimum contract this summer.

Taking whose spot in the rotation?

Would Morrison get any minutes on the current Celtics?

If Ray Allen walks, I would hope we'd do better replacing him than bringing aboard Adam Morrison (assuming that Quisy would start and Morrison would take his place on the bench).  That'd be a bigger downgrade than James Posey-to-Tony Allen.

Re: Adam Morrison
« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2009, 03:54:49 PM »

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I'd be okay with bringing him in on a minimum contract this summer.

Taking whose spot in the rotation?

Would Morrison get any minutes on the current Celtics?

If Ray Allen walks, I would hope we'd do better replacing him than bringing aboard Adam Morrison (assuming that Quisy would start and Morrison would take his place on the bench).  That'd be a bigger downgrade than James Posey-to-Tony Allen.

Why would he be promised a spot in the rotation?  If he earned it, he could be the backup SF, but why did you extrapolate a spot in the rotation for him?  There are 15 players on the roster; he could just as easily be filling the Giddens, Tony, or Scal roles.

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Re: Adam Morrison
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2009, 03:56:00 PM »

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The fact that the OP used Bird in the same sentence made me throw up in my mouth a little.   :-X

coming out of college though everybody was comparing him to Bird though, but ya, just never panned out.

First off, it was not everybody and second it's was only because they are 2 ugly white guys. That's where the comparison ends. Had either one of them not been white, nobody would compare their games. Morrisons doesn't have 1/10th the court vision Bird has. Nor is he anywhere near the rebounder or passer Bird was. Sillest comparison I've ever heard.

Agreed similar to the silly notion that Dirk is comparable to better than Larry.  Of course that came from some the jealous hack broadcasters.


I think it's fair to say Dirk has a comparable skill set to Larry. I mean the man is a lights out shooter, can take most PF's off the dribble and... oh yeah... he was an MVP!

Not not even close.... wait for it... here it comes, IMO.

He could play until the cows come home and it won't matter.

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Re: Adam Morrison
« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2009, 03:59:37 PM »

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If we're talking about 1st round busts as reclamation projects, I think I'd rather roll the dice on Joe Alexander.
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Re: Adam Morrison
« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2009, 04:00:08 PM »

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I'd be okay with bringing him in on a minimum contract this summer.

Taking whose spot in the rotation?

Would Morrison get any minutes on the current Celtics?

If Ray Allen walks, I would hope we'd do better replacing him than bringing aboard Adam Morrison (assuming that Quisy would start and Morrison would take his place on the bench).  That'd be a bigger downgrade than James Posey-to-Tony Allen.

Why would he be promised a spot in the rotation?  If he earned it, he could be the backup SF, but why did you extrapolate a spot in the rotation for him?  There are 15 players on the roster; he could just as easily be filling the Giddens, Tony, or Scal roles.

Meh, what's the point then?  I mean, granted he's better than Giddens and TA, but I'm not exactly optimistic that he's ever going to turn into a rotation-caliber player.  This isn't a case of a guy just needs to start hitting his jumper or he needs a little confidence boost.  This is a player that coming out of college had known physical limitations that many people thought were going to severely limit his ability to play on the next level, and that has borne out completely true so far.  Is he somehow going to become quick or strong enough to be a rotation player?  What's his upside at this point?

If not, what's the point?  I'd rather have someone on the bench who can play D, or someone that's got some upside. 

Hell, I'd much rather re-sign Scal (shouldn't be that expensive) since he's shown that he can play some D, he can fill in at the 3 or the 4, and I trust his shot as much as I would trust Morrison's. 

EDIT: The one skillset of Morrison's that should have translated to the NBA was the ability to drain the longball.  He's a career 33.6% shooter; what's the league average, maybe 35%?  What exactly would he bring to the ballclub?
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Re: Adam Morrison
« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2009, 04:05:41 PM »

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I'd be okay with bringing him in on a minimum contract this summer.

Taking whose spot in the rotation?

Would Morrison get any minutes on the current Celtics?

If Ray Allen walks, I would hope we'd do better replacing him than bringing aboard Adam Morrison (assuming that Quisy would start and Morrison would take his place on the bench).  That'd be a bigger downgrade than James Posey-to-Tony Allen.

Why would he be promised a spot in the rotation?  If he earned it, he could be the backup SF, but why did you extrapolate a spot in the rotation for him?  There are 15 players on the roster; he could just as easily be filling the Giddens, Tony, or Scal roles.

Meh, what's the point then?  I mean, granted he's better than Giddens and TA, but I'm not exactly optimistic that he's ever going to turn into a rotation-caliber player.  This isn't a case of a guy just needs to start hitting his jumper or he needs a little confidence boost.  This is a player that coming out of college had known physical limitations that many people thought were going to severely limit his ability to play on the next level, and that has borne out completely true so far.  Is he somehow going to become quick or strong enough to be a rotation player?  What's his upside at this point?

If not, what's the point?  I'd rather have someone on the bench who can play D, or someone that's got some upside. 

Hell, I'd much rather re-sign Scal (shouldn't be that expensive) since he's shown that he can play some D, he can fill in at the 3 or the 4, and I trust his shot as much as I would trust Morrison's. 

Why sign any minimum-salary player?  You're required to carry 13 players on your team, and some of them need to be filler.  In terms of "upside", why doesn't Morrison have any?  I'd rather have him than Giddens or Tony.

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Re: Adam Morrison
« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2009, 04:08:17 PM »

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I am sure he can turn out to be something special with the right coaching staff belief.
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