Rondo's Market Value (merged threads)

[Cman]

One thing the Celtics have going for them is that Rondo plays in a starting lineup with 3 All Stars.  My guess is that other teams (who might consider offering a contract to Rondo next summer) will always wonder if he is a franchise PG, or just a very lucky PG. 

[BballTim]

One thing the Celtics have going for them is that Rondo plays in a starting lineup with 3 All Stars.  My guess is that other teams (who might consider offering a contract to Rondo next summer) will always wonder if he is a franchise PG, or just a very lucky PG. 

  These guys evaluate players for a living and guesstimate how every player they sign/draft/trade for will work out for them. I doubt they'll be stumped by Rondo.

[Jon]

While we can play the market value game, I think Rondo's value is higher for the C's than it is for other teams.  Maybe he does look better because he plays with the Big Three (though he certainly dominated last year without KG and with PP and RA worn out).  But does it really matter?  If he leaves next year, the C's will have essentially flushed the last couple years of the Big Three's time together down the drain. 

What he can do for the team in the next 2-3 years outweighs any salary burden he may be 4-5 years from now. 

[Edgar]

ok ok ok I said 8 tops
but if its posible to do it at 10 i say Pull the trigger
and hope hes just that good as we all or most of us think he is

[wdleehi]

Rondo is a top PG.  But he is a passing/defensive PG.  Not a scoring PG.  And not Jason Kidd.


Does anyone really see a team looking to make a big splash in FA (i.e. sell more tickets) really spend much more then the Celtics reportedly offering?  And what good team has both the cap space and need for just a PG?

[nickagneta]

Rondo is a top PG.  But he is a passing/defensive PG.  Not a scoring PG.  And not Jason Kidd.


Does anyone really see a team looking to make a big splash in FA (i.e. sell more tickets) really spend much more then the Celtics reportedly offering?  And what good team has both the cap space and need for just a PG?

Who said anything about good. My guess is the Knicks will offer Rondo a max contract if everyone else they are looking at(LeBron, Wade, Bosh) turns them down. But I could see the Knucks doing everything they can to land a Rondo/Yao combo or Rondo/Boozer combo or Rondo/Amare combo to add to Gallinari and Chandler for a very good four player young core in D'Antoni's system.

[Chris]

Rondo is a top PG.  But he is a passing/defensive PG.  Not a scoring PG.  And not Jason Kidd.


Does anyone really see a team looking to make a big splash in FA (i.e. sell more tickets) really spend much more then the Celtics reportedly offering?  And what good team has both the cap space and need for just a PG?

The only team I would be worried about is the Knicks.  They will have the cap space, need a PG, and have a great chance of missing out on the other top FA's.  They also have had a history of panicking and overpaying players.  Of course now that they actually have a decent GM, perhaps he would be smart enough not to go way over the top for Rondo.

[snively]

Rondo is a top PG.  But he is a passing/defensive PG.  Not a scoring PG.  And not Jason Kidd.


Does anyone really see a team looking to make a big splash in FA (i.e. sell more tickets) really spend much more then the Celtics reportedly offering?  And what good team has both the cap space and need for just a PG?

With a little improvement, I think Rondo will be well in-line with Jason Kidd at the same age.  Very different games (Jason Kidd plays with power, Rondo with speed) but similar impacts on their teammates, IMHO.

[BballTim]

Rondo is a top PG.  But he is a passing/defensive PG.  Not a scoring PG.  And not Jason Kidd.


Does anyone really see a team looking to make a big splash in FA (i.e. sell more tickets) really spend much more then the Celtics reportedly offering?  And what good team has both the cap space and need for just a PG?

  Rondo's capable of scoring more points than he does. There are plenty of players who shot no better than he does early in their careers. It's not far fetched to assume he'll improve and he's already above average at taking the ball to the hole. And while plenty of people don't think he'll get any offers next summer, there were plenty of posts before the draft saying we should trade Rondo because we could just replace him with Kidd/Miller/Bibby for the MLE. Those guys all got about 50% more than that.

[KCattheStripe]

Rondo is a top PG.  But he is a passing/defensive PG.  Not a scoring PG.  And not Jason Kidd.


Does anyone really see a team looking to make a big splash in FA (i.e. sell more tickets) really spend much more then the Celtics reportedly offering?  And what good team has both the cap space and need for just a PG?

Who said anything about good. My guess is the Knicks will offer Rondo a max contract if everyone else they are looking at(LeBron, Wade, Bosh) turns them down. But I could see the Knucks doing everything they can to land a Rondo/Yao combo or Rondo/Boozer combo or Rondo/Amare combo to add to Gallinari and Chandler for a very good four player young core in D'Antoni's system.

Thats actually a little scary.

[makaveli]

Rondo is a top PG.  But he is a passing/defensive PG.  Not a scoring PG.  And not Jason Kidd.


Does anyone really see a team looking to make a big splash in FA (i.e. sell more tickets) really spend much more then the Celtics reportedly offering?  And what good team has both the cap space and need for just a PG?

Who said anything about good. My guess is the Knicks will offer Rondo a max contract if everyone else they are looking at(LeBron, Wade, Bosh) turns them down. But I could see the Knucks doing everything they can to land a Rondo/Yao combo or Rondo/Boozer combo or Rondo/Amare combo to add to Gallinari and Chandler for a very good four player young core in D'Antoni's system.

Thats actually a little scary.

Nobody want's to deal with Yao and his injuries, not at high value

[FatjohnReturns]

Do you seriously believe the Celtics would win only 10 outta 20 games if Rondo went down? The love for Rondo on this board seems over the top. I think most of you guys underestimate how dominant Kg,Pierce,Allen really are. Rondo is a average NBA level point guard in the best possible situation. He will always be a good rebounder but once the big three are gone is assist numbers will drop dramatically and maybe he learns to shoot better maybe not.

[BballTim]

Do you seriously believe the Celtics would win only 10 outta 20 games if Rondo went down? The love for Rondo on this board seems over the top. I think most of you guys underestimate how dominant Kg,Pierce,Allen really are. Rondo is a average NBA level point guard in the best possible situation. He will always be a good rebounder but once the big three are gone is assist numbers will drop dramatically and maybe he learns to shoot better maybe not.

  Doc said more than once last year that the team could survive without KG or PP or RA and still win most of their games but if Rondo went down they'd be in trouble. Rondo's a very good pg who's numbers are as good if not better with one of the big three out than they are when all three of them play. His assist numbers as well as his scoring will probably go up if he's not playing with them and controls the ball more.

[Jon]

ok ok ok I said 8 tops
but if its posible to do it at 10 i say Pull the trigger
and hope hes just that good as we all or most of us think he is

I think the only question is whether he's good enough to guide the Big Three to a few more titles.  I think we know the answer to that question. 

Living up to the contract after they retire would just be icing on the cake. 

[ssspence]

Rondo is a top PG.  But he is a passing/defensive PG.  Not a scoring PG.  And not Jason Kidd.


Does anyone really see a team looking to make a big splash in FA (i.e. sell more tickets) really spend much more then the Celtics reportedly offering?  And what good team has both the cap space and need for just a PG?

Like others who have responded here, I continue to worry about this Knicks. They won't get LeBron. Can you imagine Rondo in D'Antoni's offense? Think about how good Nash made mediocre players look shooting wide open jumpers....