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Re: Big Baby Could Miss Significant Time
« Reply #45 on: October 26, 2009, 07:10:11 PM »

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I think this could turn out to be a blessing in disguise.  Baby already was talking about not being pleased about his minutes.  Now the C's will avoid that issue for a while, be able to rationalize limiting his minutes to "working him back into the mix", and by the time he's fully back it'll be midway through the season and he'll have less time to moan about his minutes.

This isn't a big deal.  Wallace, KG, and Perk can cover all the 4/5 minutes by playing 32 mpg each.  And as people have already said, playing Williams or Scal for 10 minutes per game to cut that down is hardly the end of the world. 

Re: Big Baby Could Miss Significant Time
« Reply #46 on: October 26, 2009, 07:27:54 PM »

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well... just put me down as officially depressed. geez louise.

if big baby is out for while, i wonder it ainge might have to make some tough choices.

hopefully, wallace, scal, and williams will provide the depth up front...but i am worried immediately after wallace. i am not sure scal and williams can play effective minutes for a prolonged stretch of games.

if the team doesnt have faith in scal and williams, could ainge jettison walker to bring back sweetney?

not a pleasant scenario, i agree.
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Re: Big Baby Could Miss Significant Time
« Reply #47 on: October 26, 2009, 07:36:11 PM »

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Right now, this really doesn't make a big difference.  All of the rest of the rotation players are healthy.  Williams (and Scal when he is ready) are both solid enough to step in to pick up a few minutes, and help out if there is foul trouble.

If this injury was in February, when everyone else is starting to get worn down, then it could be a problem, but right now, it shouldn't be a huge deal.

What will be the real question is how Baby deals with it.  Does he sit on his ass, gain 15 pounds, and have to start from scratch when he returns, or does he take this opportunity to hit the treadmill hard, lose another 10-15 pounds, and come back with a purpose?  I honestly don't know what to expect.

If Davis loses another 10-15lbs, he's essentially a slow and useless 3.  He needs the bulk to compete at the 4 with his height.  He simply has to find a way to stay in the shape he is now. 

Re: Big Baby Could Miss Significant Time
« Reply #48 on: October 26, 2009, 07:38:21 PM »

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well... just put me down as officially depressed. geez louise.

if big baby is out for while, i wonder it ainge might have to make some tough choices.

hopefully, wallace, scal, and williams will provide the depth up front...but i am worried immediately after wallace. i am not sure scal and williams can play effective minutes for a prolonged stretch of games.

if the team doesnt have faith in scal and williams, could ainge jettison walker to bring back sweetney?

not a pleasant scenario, i agree.

But what's to worry about?  After Wallace gets his 25+ mpg, there's going to be very, very little time left for anyone else.  And Scal proved last year that he's capable of being a rotation player.  He can certainly manage the 5 or so odd minutes per game needed. 

Re: Big Baby Could Miss Significant Time
« Reply #49 on: October 26, 2009, 07:43:25 PM »

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Mike Sweetney please. Cut Tony and sign him. We could use him more than an injured BBD right now.
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Re: Big Baby Could Miss Significant Time
« Reply #50 on: October 26, 2009, 07:46:18 PM »

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Right now, this really doesn't make a big difference.  All of the rest of the rotation players are healthy.  Williams (and Scal when he is ready) are both solid enough to step in to pick up a few minutes, and help out if there is foul trouble.

If this injury was in February, when everyone else is starting to get worn down, then it could be a problem, but right now, it shouldn't be a huge deal.

What will be the real question is how Baby deals with it.  Does he sit on his ass, gain 15 pounds, and have to start from scratch when he returns, or does he take this opportunity to hit the treadmill hard, lose another 10-15 pounds, and come back with a purpose?  I honestly don't know what to expect.

If Davis loses another 10-15lbs, he's essentially a slow and useless 3.  He needs the bulk to compete at the 4 with his height.  He simply has to find a way to stay in the shape he is now. 
Not if he keeps his strength up, which is entirely possible with the right regimen.

Re: Big Baby Could Miss Significant Time
« Reply #51 on: October 26, 2009, 07:46:49 PM »

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hopefully he's not out for too long, though it seems like folks are speculating 6-8 weeks. well, i guess we can look forward to the story behind this one, and baby's definition of self-defense.

Re: Big Baby Could Miss Significant Time
« Reply #52 on: October 26, 2009, 07:58:30 PM »

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Right now, this really doesn't make a big difference.  All of the rest of the rotation players are healthy.  Williams (and Scal when he is ready) are both solid enough to step in to pick up a few minutes, and help out if there is foul trouble.

If this injury was in February, when everyone else is starting to get worn down, then it could be a problem, but right now, it shouldn't be a huge deal.

What will be the real question is how Baby deals with it.  Does he sit on his ass, gain 15 pounds, and have to start from scratch when he returns, or does he take this opportunity to hit the treadmill hard, lose another 10-15 pounds, and come back with a purpose?  I honestly don't know what to expect.

If Davis loses another 10-15lbs, he's essentially a slow and useless 3.  He needs the bulk to compete at the 4 with his height.  He simply has to find a way to stay in the shape he is now. 

True.  Really, I am just afraid he is going to rehab Sean May style.

Re: Big Baby Could Miss Significant Time
« Reply #53 on: October 26, 2009, 08:01:03 PM »

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So when the Lakers are getting their rings again next year---we can look back and say: "This is where it all started"...Thanks Glen Davis---Thanks for being a team player.

As soon as I heard Mike Gorman say that Davis was training as a fighter--I knew something would happen....you just know he was messing around with this friend, when it happened.

I'll jump to this conclusion right now.

Re: Big Baby Could Miss Significant Time
« Reply #54 on: October 26, 2009, 08:39:21 PM »

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I don't get it? What's the matter with these millionaire athletes?

It's not like Big Baby needs to do pushups to stay in shape. There are plenty of exercise equipment, like the BowFlex, where one can attach a harness, either to one's wrist or elbow, and still get a great upper body workout. Likewise, one can do squats using the same principals. He can save the free weights for the left side only.

Then, he can practice shooting with his left hand and start to become ambidextrous. This, in fact, had occurred back in school when a rightie was wearing a cast for 2-3 mons. His left hand took over and he was able to right with both hands, with similar clarity in weeks.



Re: Big Baby Could Miss Significant Time
« Reply #55 on: October 26, 2009, 09:10:25 PM »

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I think this could turn out to be a blessing in disguise.  Baby already was talking about not being pleased about his minutes.  Now the C's will avoid that issue for a while, be able to rationalize limiting his minutes to "working him back into the mix", and by the time he's fully back it'll be midway through the season and he'll have less time to moan about his minutes.

This isn't a big deal.  Wallace, KG, and Perk can cover all the 4/5 minutes by playing 32 mpg each.  And as people have already said, playing Williams or Scal for 10 minutes per game to cut that down is hardly the end of the world. 
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Re: Big Baby Could Miss Significant Time
« Reply #56 on: October 26, 2009, 09:12:25 PM »

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So when the Lakers are getting their rings again next year---we can look back and say: "This is where it all started"...Thanks Glen Davis---Thanks for being a team player.

As soon as I heard Mike Gorman say that Davis was training as a fighter--I knew something would happen....you just know he was messing around with this friend, when it happened.

I'll jump to this conclusion right now.

I mocked a poster months ago who said "No BBD = Laker's Dynasty" when commenting on his free agency status.  Once again, I think the loss of Glen Davis will have almost no effect on the success of this team.  He is a backup to the backup and statistically neither particularly successful nor irreplaceable.  

The Celtics '09-'10 season will be determined by their starters and key few bench guys.  I should hope the Celtic's millions of dollars and thousands of training hours don't hinge on one Baby.

We know what we have in BBD, and it'll be nice for a few weeks to see a couple of minutes from Sheldon and others in our system.  

Re: Big Baby Could Miss Significant Time
« Reply #57 on: October 26, 2009, 09:15:41 PM »

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So when the Lakers are getting their rings again next year---we can look back and say: "This is where it all started"...Thanks Glen Davis---Thanks for being a team player.

We have an early candidate for pessimistic overreaction of the year, folks!  Still a lot of season left though; all of it, in fact.

Re: Big Baby Could Miss Significant Time
« Reply #58 on: October 26, 2009, 09:21:19 PM »

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Losing Baby for 10 -20 games is one thing but if he is lost for much longer it will have a big impact. It's not that he is the most important player on the team or anything but the guy helps win ball games. There are very, very few players in this league who have the strength and size to deal with a guy like Shaq. Baby is one of only a handful and his loss will be evident tomorrow night. I'm not comparing these two players, only their relative importance to team, but it's like Bill Walton on the 86 team. Was he the most important player on that team? No way. But, would the title have been won without him? No way.

Re: Big Baby Could Miss Significant Time
« Reply #59 on: October 26, 2009, 09:22:05 PM »

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I know it was meant as KG insurance, but now the Sheldons Williams signing is making Danny look like a genius
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