A player that Boston can possibly trade Tony allen for has emerged....

[fanofgreen]

Tony Allen for Acie Law.

add depth to the pg spot, and gets rid of Tony!

[TrueGreen]

The roster seems to be set. It doesn't look like TA will have much of a role on the team this year. If he is traded it should only be for an advantage to the Celtics. The trade in question gives us nothing.

[Fafnir]

Tony Allen for Acie Law.

add depth to the pg spot, and gets rid of Tony!

We don't want Acie Law type depth....

[ManUp]

I don't want a player that another team has told to stay away from theirs. How Dallas decided to deal with Williams makes him sound like a cancer to me. Tony might stink on the court, and have character issues, but he seems to be good for the teams chemistry. I'm not trading a bad basketball player for a cancer.

[Prof. Clutch]

I'll tell you one thing for the legacy of Tony Allen here on Celticsblog.  The day he is finally no longer under contract with the C's should be remembered and celebrated as a holiday.  He will without a doubt go down as one of the most talked about, trade proposed, hated, loved, 'future potential' discussed, and generally controversial players to be discussed on Celticsblog of all time.

One day I, many years from now, I will log onto Celticsblog and wish everyone a Happy T.A. Day.  I will call out of work, "Sorry, can't make it today.  I'm celebrating Tony Allen Day."  I will light a candle for every turnover he's had in his career.  Actually, scratch that, I don't think I could collect nearly that that many candles, but you get the point...

[noro]

I would take anybody, just to get rid of Tony Allen.

Tony Allen for Mark Blount?

[Tai]

...unfortunately the player coming back will have just as much baggage as Tony Allen . His height and wingspan remind me of James Posey, but he hasn't really shown much in terms of defense. He is 6-8 or 6-9, he  seems like a tweener. Not terribly exciting because of his off court distractions, but getting rid of Tony Allen and getting back a player that has an intriguing skillset is better then keeping Tony Allen. I'm not sure if it would be a good idea to acquire him, but I wanted to know what you guys thought about him...Dallas would do this, would Boston? Does his potential outweigh the possible distraction he might cause?

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/62082/20091012/mavericks_looking_to_deal_shawne_williams/

What makes you think they'd do this deal? If it's just get rid of Williams, then I guess that's great and all, but do we want Williams in exchange? You said he can't defend. I don't like that already.

Still, guess what I found that I don't like? He hasn't played since January 4th, and only played 15 games last year for those Mavs. Last year, he only shot 28% from the field, and 5% from 3. Even if for his career he's 42% from the field and 30% from 3, that was from when he was with the Pacers. Combine that with the fact he hasn't played NBA Basketball in 8 months, and I'd much rather have Nocioni in a trade, who's career stats trump Shawne Williams. That's just on-court stuff, and doesn't include the fact the Mavs pretty much shipped him out Marbury-with-Knicks style. I'm sure Mr. Ainge is considering all this as well.

Yeah, no thanks.

[ToppersBsktball10]

At first I thought this was gonna be the guy:




Heard he has a nasty jumper...

[KCattheStripe]

I would take anybody, just to get rid of Tony Allen.

Tony Allen for Mark Blount?

TA for Gerald?

[youcanthandlethetruth113]

I would take anybody, just to get rid of Tony Allen.

Me too, however I agree with the OP that the pro's cetainly outweigh the con's with regards to replacing TA with Williams.

Not long ago Willaims was a BEAST in NJ and Lawrence Frank was really praising him and his tenacity.

[HomeRunBaker]

We will keep both Tony and Scal until the trade deadline, playing them as much as possible to boost trade value. This is smart, as their contracts could potentially be dealt with some of our youth for a valuable last piece to a championship team.

I don't see Doc playing them just to increase their trade value.  He's trying to win a championship, and playing them extra minutes isn't going to get him there.  Scal and TA's value this year isn't their talent, it's their expiring contracts.  If Danny trades them it will be for a talent upgrade.  Whoever trades for them will probably not be trading for their talent.

Exactly, people are too eager to get rid of Tony. Right now I don't think he'll crack the rotation if we're healthy.

We have our set 9-man rotation and the 10th man on any given night will be either Scal or Allen depending on matchups (and if Allen is healthy of course).  I'm talking about regular season when you need to go 10 deep much of the time.  Tony Allen averaged 18 mpg during our championship season and 19 mpg last year because we had zero athletic wings to matchup with opponents second unit.  Daniels is an upgrade but he is also an upgrade who has missed an AVERAGE of 23.5 games per season due to injury in his first 6 years in the league. 

Without Daniels and Allen our team has serious matchup problems and a very slow second unit......bottom line, there is no need to move Tony Allen unless he is a disruption which despite his flaws has handled himself pretty well as a reserve on this team from that perspective.  Shawne Williams does not help this team in any way......Allen serves as insurance to a need when Marquis goes down with his annual injury.

[youcanthandlethetruth113]

I'll tell you one thing for the legacy of Tony Allen here on Celticsblog.  The day he is finally no longer under contract with the C's should be remembered and celebrated as a holiday.  He will without a doubt go down as one of the most talked about, trade proposed, hated, loved, 'future potential' discussed, and generally controversial players to be discussed on Celticsblog of all time.

One day I, many years from now, I will log onto Celticsblog and wish everyone a Happy T.A. Day.  I will call out of work, "Sorry, can't make it today.  I'm celebrating Tony Allen Day."  I will light a candle for every turnover he's had in his career.  Actually, scratch that, I don't think I could collect nearly that that many candles, but you get the point...

Finally! Somebody who hates TA (the basketball player) as much as I do

[dark_lord]

Tony Allen for Acie Law.

add depth to the pg spot, and gets rid of Tony!

seriously.....how many times are u going to make this same proposal?  the majority of ur posts involve this scenario.  i have hated tonys game for yrs around here and want him gone....but how many times are u going to bring this up?  im not trying to a jerk, but this just annoys me.

[Prof. Clutch]

I'll tell you one thing for the legacy of Tony Allen here on Celticsblog.  The day he is finally no longer under contract with the C's should be remembered and celebrated as a holiday.  He will without a doubt go down as one of the most talked about, trade proposed, hated, loved, 'future potential' discussed, and generally controversial players to be discussed on Celticsblog of all time.

One day I, many years from now, I will log onto Celticsblog and wish everyone a Happy T.A. Day.  I will call out of work, "Sorry, can't make it today.  I'm celebrating Tony Allen Day."  I will light a candle for every turnover he's had in his career.  Actually, scratch that, I don't think I could collect nearly that that many candles, but you get the point...

Finally! Somebody who hates TA (the basketball player) as much as I do

Haha.  I'll tell you, I don't like Tony very much and I have wished countless times that he was never going to play another minute for the Celtics again.  At the same time, he is such a polarizing figure around here.  What will we find to replace all the brilliant jokes, arguments, and issues surrounding T.A.  Who will most of us hate and some of us undyingly believe has potential after Tony.  Here's thinking that maybe, just maybe, we'll miss him when he's gone...

That is why I think we must celebrate the day that he leaves.  The concept that someone's departure could vastly enhance our basketball team, but still leave such a void in all of our lives.  That deserves some recognition.

[Tai]

We will keep both Tony and Scal until the trade deadline, playing them as much as possible to boost trade value. This is smart, as their contracts could potentially be dealt with some of our youth for a valuable last piece to a championship team.

I don't see Doc playing them just to increase their trade value.  He's trying to win a championship, and playing them extra minutes isn't going to get him there.  Scal and TA's value this year isn't their talent, it's their expiring contracts.  If Danny trades them it will be for a talent upgrade.  Whoever trades for them will probably not be trading for their talent.

Exactly, people are too eager to get rid of Tony. Right now I don't think he'll crack the rotation if we're healthy.

We have our set 9-man rotation and the 10th man on any given night will be either Scal or Allen depending on matchups (and if Allen is healthy of course).  I'm talking about regular season when you need to go 10 deep much of the time.  Tony Allen averaged 18 mpg during our championship season and 19 mpg last year because we had zero athletic wings to matchup with opponents second unit.  Daniels is an upgrade but he is also an upgrade who has missed an AVERAGE of 23.5 games per season due to injury in his first 6 years in the league. 

Without Daniels and Allen our team has serious matchup problems and a very slow second unit......bottom line, there is no need to move Tony Allen unless he is a disruption which despite his flaws has handled himself pretty well as a reserve on this team from that perspective.  Shawne Williams does not help this team in any way......Allen serves as insurance to a need when Marquis goes down with his annual injury.

So who saves TA from his annual injury? Oh now don't tell me this is it!