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Re: The plan in case Rondo gets injured during the regular season?
« Reply #45 on: October 06, 2009, 10:59:16 AM »

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Vaughn/Hunter/Farmar are all around the value of Eddie House.

I'd rather have House than any of those guys, especially with a ball-handling wing playing beside him.  If you're talking about their current state -- rather than their prime -- Vaughn and Hunter are third stringers, at best.

I would prefer Vaughn/Hunter over Lester Hudson though...

I am willing to give Lester at least a couple of pre-season games to show what he's got.
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Re: The plan in case Rondo gets injured during the regular season?
« Reply #46 on: October 06, 2009, 11:10:01 AM »

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Vaughn/Hunter/Farmar are all around the value of Eddie House.

I'd rather have House than any of those guys, especially with a ball-handling wing playing beside him.  If you're talking about their current state -- rather than their prime -- Vaughn and Hunter are third stringers, at best.

I would prefer Vaughn/Hunter over Lester Hudson though...

I am willing to give Lester at least a couple of pre-season games to show what he's got.

Maybe.  But I don't really care.  Like I've said before, if he is ever an NBA contributor, it's likely going to be after this team's window of opportunity has closed.  So what's the best case scenario for the C's, that they have a nice backupg PG for Rondo during the rebuilding years? 

Forgive me for not being excited about that. 

Re: The plan in case Rondo gets injured during the regular season?
« Reply #47 on: October 06, 2009, 11:14:11 AM »

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I think this team could be quite competitive during the "rebuilding years" if Ainge makes the right moves now.

Re: The plan in case Rondo gets injured during the regular season?
« Reply #48 on: October 06, 2009, 11:17:37 AM »

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I think this team could be quite competitive during the "rebuilding years" if Ainge makes the right moves now.

What do you mean by competitive, though?  Because unless "competitive" means "legitimate contender" Lester Hudson's presence on this team isn't going to matter much.  Even if he ended up being as good as Eddie House, he isn't going to get a first or second round playoff team to the title. 

Re: The plan in case Rondo gets injured during the regular season?
« Reply #49 on: October 06, 2009, 11:30:28 AM »

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And you are excited about Vaughn/Hunter?--we haven't seen
 Lester play, your opinion is pure speculation, let's give him
 a chance.  We do know that for the past couple of years
Vaughn/Hunter have been 3rd string guys who played sparingly and not particularly well--but go ahead and be excited if you want. I'll give the street kid a chance just like Danny is.


Vaughn/Hunter/Farmar are all around the value of Eddie House.
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I'd rather have House than any of those guys, especially with a ball-handling wing playing beside him.  If you're talking about their current state -- rather than their prime -- Vaughn and Hunter are third stringers, at best.

I would prefer Vaughn/Hunter over Lester Hudson though...

I am willing to give Lester at least a couple of pre-season games to show what he's got.

Maybe.  But I don't really care.  Like I've said before, if he is ever an NBA contributor, it's likely going to be after this team's window of opportunity has closed.  So what's the best case scenario for the C's, that they have a nice backupg PG for Rondo during the rebuilding years? 

Forgive me for not being excited about that. 




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Re: The plan in case Rondo gets injured during the regular season?
« Reply #50 on: October 06, 2009, 11:33:58 AM »

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If Rondo gets hurt, pressure is on Ainge.



He has to find a PG that has proven he can play (much like Orlando did last year)


Luckly, he has some assets to go and get that.  (TA and Scali's contracts.  And if it is a really big need, a young talented player in Davis)


The team cannot go into the playoffs with Hudson as one of the two main PGs.

Re: The plan in case Rondo gets injured during the regular season?
« Reply #51 on: October 06, 2009, 11:42:46 AM »

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And you are excited about Vaughn/Hunter?--we haven't seen
 Lester play, your opinion is pure speculation, let's give him
 a chance.  We do know that for the past couple of years
Vaughn/Hunter have been 3rd string guys who played sparingly and not particularly well--but go ahead and be excited if you want. I'll give the street kid a chance just like Danny is.


Vaughn/Hunter/Farmar are all around the value of Eddie House.
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I'd rather have House than any of those guys, especially with a ball-handling wing playing beside him.  If you're talking about their current state -- rather than their prime -- Vaughn and Hunter are third stringers, at best.

I would prefer Vaughn/Hunter over Lester Hudson though...

I am willing to give Lester at least a couple of pre-season games to show what he's got.

Maybe.  But I don't really care.  Like I've said before, if he is ever an NBA contributor, it's likely going to be after this team's window of opportunity has closed.  So what's the best case scenario for the C's, that they have a nice backupg PG for Rondo during the rebuilding years? 

Forgive me for not being excited about that. 






I certainly am not excited about either one and I don't have the delusion to think either could replace Rondo.  However, I do think Vaughn or Hunter could replace Eddie House. 

Let's face it, Doc isn't going to play Lester Hudson in the playoffs unless the team is down to its last 5 players.  Vaughn and Hunter have both been there before with San Antonio and Detroit.  Both could play the whopping 10 mpg backing up Rondo if it came down to it. 

Hudson likely won't get on the active roster until the C's days of contending are over.  So what's the point of having him around? 

Re: The plan in case Rondo gets injured during the regular season?
« Reply #52 on: October 06, 2009, 12:39:04 PM »

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Who cares about Hudson?  If he shows that he can run the offense, I'll be astounded. He's headed for the Red Claws, and so is Giddens.

IMHO they would be better served to move assets now and acquire a decent backup, instead of the inevitable mid season fire drill if Rondo doesn't get up after one of his acrobatic finishes. Portland, Milwaukee and Sacramento have too many point guards, and Ainge ought to keep shaking those trees until something falls out. If all else fails, there's always Mike Taylor.

As for rebuilding, they will have Rondo and Perkins.  If you add a decent 7 footer and an a wing scorer, that could be a decent team.  When Garnett's current contract expires, they will have the cap space to add some good free agents.  The thing to avoid is hanging on to the veterans too long, which is the mistake the Celtics made after 1988. It's always better to trade a player a year too soon than a year too late.

Re: The plan in case Rondo gets injured during the regular season?
« Reply #53 on: October 06, 2009, 12:56:36 PM »

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If Rondo goes down, simply work out a trade with NO, for Chris Paul. Tony and Scal should do, since they are both expiring deals, and NO needs the payroll relief.

Of course, you may have to throw in KG, Pierce and Ray Allen to make it a fair deal.

Re: The plan in case Rondo gets injured during the regular season?
« Reply #54 on: October 06, 2009, 01:00:40 PM »

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The plan in case Rondo gets injured during the regular season? Pickup Raefer Alston.

Re: The plan in case Rondo gets injured during the regular season?
« Reply #55 on: October 06, 2009, 01:38:13 PM »

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I think it would be better to fill the need now than be forced to give too much in a fire sale.

Re: The plan in case Rondo gets injured during the regular season?
« Reply #56 on: October 06, 2009, 02:53:00 PM »

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I think it would be better to fill the need now than be forced to give too much in a fire sale.

  I don't think anyone good enough to take the reins if Rondo goes down would be happy playing 10-12 minutes a game behind Rajon.

Re: The plan in case Rondo gets injured during the regular season?
« Reply #57 on: October 06, 2009, 03:14:11 PM »

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I think it would be better to fill the need now than be forced to give too much in a fire sale.

  I don't think anyone good enough to take the reins if Rondo goes down would be happy playing 10-12 minutes a game behind Rajon.

I agree, I think it would be better to fill in the need now rather than wait. Because you cant control what goes down later on in the year (injuries,suspensions,other transactions by teams, etc.)

And Acie Law would more than welcome playing 10-12 minute behind rondo, b/c right now he might not see 10-12 minutes all year, behind Monta Ellis, Stephen Curry, CJ Watson, Stephen Jackson, Maggette, and all the other guys Don Nelson seems to randomly pick to run the pg in his "system" of offense.

Swap Tony Allen for Acie Law. very similar contracts, so the deal is very possible. Acie law is a bigger pg which is perfect to balance out our lack of size at the backup 2 (aka eddie house)

Making this deal happen still allows you to make moves later on in the year to go and get things you WANT, b/c you can still use JR, Lester, Scal, and Billy as trade pieces. But as far as right now go and get what you NEED. which is to get rid of Tony. also find a backup PG.

Clearly the last two years goes to show why the mid-season backup pg experiment hasn't reaped many benefits. especially last year. So lets go ahead and pick up at the start of the season what we need.

Re: The plan in case Rondo gets injured during the regular season?
« Reply #58 on: October 06, 2009, 03:58:38 PM »

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Well, I think Sergio Rodriguez would be happier playing 10-15 minutes a game in Boston than 10-15 minutes a game in Sacramento behind Beno Udrih and Tyreke Evans.
Evans is clearly the pg of the future for the Kings, and Udrih has a big contract.  That doesn't leave many minutes for Rodriguez.

If I thought Acie Law were a good defender I might prefer him, but I do not think Law defends well, althoug he's probably better than Rodriguez. But offensively "Spanish Chocolate" is very skilled.

Re: The plan in case Rondo gets injured during the regular season?
« Reply #59 on: October 06, 2009, 04:11:21 PM »

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I think it would be better to fill the need now than be forced to give too much in a fire sale.

  I don't think anyone good enough to take the reins if Rondo goes down would be happy playing 10-12 minutes a game behind Rajon.

There aren't even 10-12 minutes.  While Doc may go 10+ deep at times, right now, I think the main rotation is pretty set with House and Daniels getting the majority of the backup minutes at the 1, 2, and 3.  Anyone brought in would either be a 11th or 12th man, only on the roster for insurance in case of injury/foul trouble, or they would have to be good enough to push House down into that role...and there are not many guys available right now who could do that.