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Re: Red Sox Trade Deadline 2009
« Reply #45 on: July 31, 2009, 12:26:42 PM »

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ESPN's Peter Gammons reports that the Marlins "appear to be moving closer" to a Nick Johnson trade.  Last we heard, the Fish offered pitcher Ryan Tucker to the Nationals and asked Washington to pay part of Johnson's contract (he has $2MM remaining).  At the same time, Danny Knobler of CBSSports says the Marlins are growing frustrated with the trade talks and may move on.

Johnson, a free agent after the season, currently projects to fall short of Type B status, so it makes sense for the Nats to take what they can get.  At the same time it'd be big for the Marlins to put a .408 OBP player in front of Hanley Ramirez.


Marlins should trade for some fans.

we the fans envoke our no trade clause ;)
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Re: Red Sox Trade Deadline 2009
« Reply #46 on: July 31, 2009, 01:02:20 PM »

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11:56am: Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle says Cabrera to the Twins is "very close."

11:49am: MLB.com's Jonathan Mayo (via Twitter) finds a 50% chance of a Martinez trade

11:35am: MLB.com's Jonathan Mayo via Twitter: "I'm hearing odds of Padres dealing Gonzalez are very low at this point."  Bonus: Mayo's Twitter background has a Magic Eye effect
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Re: Red Sox Trade Deadline 2009
« Reply #47 on: July 31, 2009, 01:06:20 PM »

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"11:14 a.m.: The Globe's Tony Massarotti just checked in to report that according to well-placed baseball source, the Red Sox and Padres are continuing discussions this morning about Adrian Gonzalez. It is unclear which Red Sox prospects the Padres are pursuing, but considering that San Diego lacks depth in its farm system, there is the possibility that the Red Sox could supply San Diego a collection of players while hanging on to some of their elite prospects."

THats very interesting, wonder what itd take.

I would imagine it would start with Anderson as the top prospect (and maybe they would take Laroche to play out the year, since Lars isn't ready yet), and then maybe a couple other guys like Reddick or Westmoreland, and then a pitching prospect like Masterson or Bowden.

Anderson, Laroche, Reddick, and Masterson would be a decent package I think.  Especially since Laroche may have a better chance of netting them a compensatory pick or 2, playing everyday in the NL (and of course he is known for having much better second halves).

Re: Red Sox Trade Deadline 2009
« Reply #48 on: July 31, 2009, 01:07:49 PM »

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"11:14 a.m.: The Globe's Tony Massarotti just checked in to report that according to well-placed baseball source, the Red Sox and Padres are continuing discussions this morning about Adrian Gonzalez. It is unclear which Red Sox prospects the Padres are pursuing, but considering that San Diego lacks depth in its farm system, there is the possibility that the Red Sox could supply San Diego a collection of players while hanging on to some of their elite prospects."

THats very interesting, wonder what itd take.

I would imagine it would start with Anderson as the top prospect (and maybe they would take Laroche to play out the year, since Lars isn't ready yet), and then maybe a couple other guys like Reddick or Westmoreland, and then a pitching prospect like Masterson or Bowden.

Anderson, Laroche, Reddick, and Masterson would be a decent package I think.  Especially since Laroche may have a better chance of netting them a compensatory pick or 2, playing everyday in the NL (and of course he is known for having much better second halves).

According to Elias sports bureau Laroche doesnt give a compensatory pick however i dont know if that can change
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Re: Red Sox Trade Deadline 2009
« Reply #49 on: July 31, 2009, 01:08:45 PM »

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"11:14 a.m.: The Globe's Tony Massarotti just checked in to report that according to well-placed baseball source, the Red Sox and Padres are continuing discussions this morning about Adrian Gonzalez. It is unclear which Red Sox prospects the Padres are pursuing, but considering that San Diego lacks depth in its farm system, there is the possibility that the Red Sox could supply San Diego a collection of players while hanging on to some of their elite prospects."

THats very interesting, wonder what itd take.

I would imagine it would start with Anderson as the top prospect (and maybe they would take Laroche to play out the year, since Lars isn't ready yet), and then maybe a couple other guys like Reddick or Westmoreland, and then a pitching prospect like Masterson or Bowden.

Anderson, Laroche, Reddick, and Masterson would be a decent package I think.  Especially since Laroche may have a better chance of netting them a compensatory pick or 2, playing everyday in the NL (and of course he is known for having much better second halves).

as with Victor M, I'm not down with dealing Buchholz for Gonzalez.

isn't anybody worried that this guy is hitting in the .250s?

Re: Red Sox Trade Deadline 2009
« Reply #50 on: July 31, 2009, 01:10:06 PM »

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"11:14 a.m.: The Globe's Tony Massarotti just checked in to report that according to well-placed baseball source, the Red Sox and Padres are continuing discussions this morning about Adrian Gonzalez. It is unclear which Red Sox prospects the Padres are pursuing, but considering that San Diego lacks depth in its farm system, there is the possibility that the Red Sox could supply San Diego a collection of players while hanging on to some of their elite prospects."

THats very interesting, wonder what itd take.

I would imagine it would start with Anderson as the top prospect (and maybe they would take Laroche to play out the year, since Lars isn't ready yet), and then maybe a couple other guys like Reddick or Westmoreland, and then a pitching prospect like Masterson or Bowden.

Anderson, Laroche, Reddick, and Masterson would be a decent package I think.  Especially since Laroche may have a better chance of netting them a compensatory pick or 2, playing everyday in the NL (and of course he is known for having much better second halves).

According to Elias sports bureau Laroche doesnt give a compensatory pick however i dont know if that can change

It can change.  It will be based on the entire season, not the first half.  And it also takes into account which league they play in.

Re: Red Sox Trade Deadline 2009
« Reply #51 on: July 31, 2009, 01:11:49 PM »

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SI.com's Jon Heyman reports the Red Sox are still talking with the Padres about acquiring slugger Adrian Gonzalez.

Clay Buccholz, Jed Lowrie and Justin Masterson are all involved in the deal. The Padres are also asking for Ryan Westmoreland and Lars Anderson. It's a massive price, but the Red Sox knew what they were getting into when they first struck up discussions for the 27-year-old Gonzalez. One wonders, though, what Boston would do with the newly acquired Adam LaRoche. Jul. 31 - 1:05 pm et

I wouldnt wanna give up Lowrie or Westmoreland, maybe give up Kalish/Pimantel or something like that instead of those two because i cannot watch Nick Green as the everyday SS.
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Re: Red Sox Trade Deadline 2009
« Reply #52 on: July 31, 2009, 01:12:12 PM »

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12:08pm: Yahoo's Tim Brown says it's a done deal, with the Twins sending Tyler Ladenorf to Oakland for Cabrera.

Cabrera, 34, is hitting .280/.318/.365 on the season in 448 plate appearances.  He has $1.75MM remaining on his contract, once you factor in a $250K bonus for being dealt.  Though he profiles as a Type A free agent after the season, Cabrera's agent wisely negotiated a clause disallowing his club to offer arbitration.  So, no draft picks for


And thanks for the insight on the compensatory picks TP
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Re: Red Sox Trade Deadline 2009
« Reply #53 on: July 31, 2009, 01:14:43 PM »

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isn't anybody worried that this guy is hitting in the .250s?

Not at all, he plays in a AWFUL hitting park, with no protection in the lineup. He sees barely any good pitches to hit and dominates on the road, id bet he would hit .275 or so playing on the Red Sox. He has a .970 OPS on the road compared to .880 at home, thats a big difference.
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Re: Red Sox Trade Deadline 2009
« Reply #54 on: July 31, 2009, 01:16:26 PM »

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ESPN's Amy K. Nelson, via Twitter, says the Dodgers acquired catcher Vinny Rottino from the Brewers for pitcher Claudio Vargas.

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Re: Red Sox Trade Deadline 2009
« Reply #55 on: July 31, 2009, 01:17:57 PM »

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ESPN's Amy K. Nelson, via Twitter, says the Dodgers acquired catcher Vinny Rottino from the Brewers for pitcher Claudio Vargas.



There are a lot of "players" in the market huh .  (not that this is a big deal, but it's certainly an interesting deadline)
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Re: Red Sox Trade Deadline 2009
« Reply #56 on: July 31, 2009, 01:18:42 PM »

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Ya i mean it was a minor deal but figured i should throw it in anyways
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Re: Red Sox Trade Deadline 2009
« Reply #57 on: July 31, 2009, 01:28:23 PM »

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Re: Red Sox Trade Deadline 2009
« Reply #58 on: July 31, 2009, 01:29:27 PM »

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12:26pm: A Jayson Stark source says the asking price for Gonzalez is "astronomical, three times the asking price on Halladay."

12:04pm: SI's Jon Heyman hears the Red Sox are still in talks for Gonzalez.  Buchholz, Lowrie, and Masterson are "in the mix" with the Padres asking for Westmoreland and Anderson.  Heyman adds, "However, the sides are still pretty far apart, and Boston is still in the mix for Martinez."

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Re: Red Sox Trade Deadline 2009
« Reply #59 on: July 31, 2009, 01:31:57 PM »

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12:26pm: A Jayson Stark source says the asking price for Gonzalez is "astronomical, three times the asking price on Halladay."

12:04pm: SI's Jon Heyman hears the Red Sox are still in talks for Gonzalez.  Buchholz, Lowrie, and Masterson are "in the mix" with the Padres asking for Westmoreland and Anderson.  Heyman adds, "However, the sides are still pretty far apart, and Boston is still in the mix for Martinez."


More than Halladay, yikes!