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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #2010 on: August 19, 2009, 09:41:51 AM »

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KG has yet to surpass the first round without a 20 ppg scorer beside him. we've already gone over this, the notion that he can carry a team offensively is flawed. He needs a dynamic scorer (Sprewell/Pierce) to have success... History proves it.

"oh, but he led this and that in the 2008 playoffs"

Because Paul Pierce and Ray Allen allowed him the spacing to operate. Your team has no such weapons to allow KG to do that.

Think 2007 Timberwolves.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #2011 on: August 19, 2009, 09:43:48 AM »

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Well luckily a great number of people here disagree with you
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #2012 on: August 19, 2009, 09:45:02 AM »

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Well luckily a great number of people here disagree with you

Yes, because of the KG bias.  ;)

good luck

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #2013 on: August 19, 2009, 09:45:58 AM »

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Its not a bias, he really is that good...

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Garnett leads 15-6
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #2014 on: August 19, 2009, 09:47:27 AM »

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Well luckily a great number of people here disagree with you

Yes, because of the KG bias.  ;)

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Bias based on watching him come to Boston and win a title. 

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #2015 on: August 19, 2009, 09:50:29 AM »

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Well luckily a great number of people here disagree with you

Yes, because of the KG bias.  ;)

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Bias based on watching him come to Boston and win a title. 

Him and a couple of offensive HOF'ers (which Toronto has nothing close to).

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #2016 on: August 19, 2009, 09:51:22 AM »

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KG has yet to surpass the first round without a 20 ppg scorer beside him. we've already gone over this, the notion that he can carry a team offensively is flawed. He needs a dynamic scorer (Sprewell/Pierce) to have success... History proves it.

"oh, but he led this and that in the 2008 playoffs"

Because Paul Pierce and Ray Allen allowed him the spacing to operate. Your team has no such weapons to allow KG to do that.

Think 2007 Timberwolves.

Rondo, no response here? Where's Kwit10? Maybe he can help. Clearly The alliance is still strong.

Hobbs?  ;)

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #2017 on: August 19, 2009, 09:51:41 AM »

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Listen man, I understand that your team is out of it but lets calm down a little bit.  
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #2018 on: August 19, 2009, 09:54:26 AM »

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KG has yet to surpass the first round without a 20 ppg scorer beside him. we've already gone over this, the notion that he can carry a team offensively is flawed. He needs a dynamic scorer (Sprewell/Pierce) to have success... History proves it.

"oh, but he led this and that in the 2008 playoffs"

Because Paul Pierce and Ray Allen allowed him the spacing to operate. Your team has no such weapons to allow KG to do that.

Think 2007 Timberwolves.

Rondo, no response here? Where's Kwit10? Maybe he can help. Clearly The alliance is still strong.

Hobbs?
When you look at Toronto you need to concentrate on how they would play defense not offense to understand why his team is so good. He has 3 people who have won or at least been candidates for defensive player of the year. They only need to score 85 points a game to win, that's how good their d is.
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #2019 on: August 19, 2009, 09:55:29 AM »

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And I dunno, I would say having 4 guys that averaged 15 points or higher last year is a pretty dynamic offense and then have 5 more guys that averaged above 10 points last year.  I think I have plenty of scoring.  
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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #2020 on: August 19, 2009, 09:58:07 AM »

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KG has yet to surpass the first round without a 20 ppg scorer beside him. we've already gone over this, the notion that he can carry a team offensively is flawed. He needs a dynamic scorer (Sprewell/Pierce) to have success... History proves it.

"oh, but he led this and that in the 2008 playoffs"

Because Paul Pierce and Ray Allen allowed him the spacing to operate. Your team has no such weapons to allow KG to do that.

Think 2007 Timberwolves.

Rondo, no response here? Where's Kwit10? Maybe he can help. Clearly The alliance is still strong.

Hobbs?
When you look at Toronto you need to concentrate on how they would play defense not offense to understand why his team is so good. He has 3 people who have won or at least been candidates for defensive player of the year. They only need to score 85 points a game to win, that's how good their d is.
TP for Evantime, Defense and rebounding wins championships.

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« Reply #2021 on: August 19, 2009, 09:59:07 AM »

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KG has yet to surpass the first round without a 20 ppg scorer beside him. we've already gone over this, the notion that he can carry a team offensively is flawed. He needs a dynamic scorer (Sprewell/Pierce) to have success... History proves it.

"oh, but he led this and that in the 2008 playoffs"

Because Paul Pierce and Ray Allen allowed him the spacing to operate. Your team has no such weapons to allow KG to do that.

Think 2007 Timberwolves.

Rondo, no response here? Where's Kwit10? Maybe he can help. Clearly The alliance is still strong.

Hobbs?
When you look at Toronto you need to concentrate on how they would play defense not offense to understand why his team is so good. He has 3 people who have won or at least been candidates for defensive player of the year. They only need to score 85 points a game to win, that's how good their d is.

I disagree, he has 2 player coming off of major injury and passed their peak, Ron Artest and no go-to guy.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #2022 on: August 19, 2009, 10:00:33 AM »

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KG has yet to surpass the first round without a 20 ppg scorer beside him. we've already gone over this, the notion that he can carry a team offensively is flawed. He needs a dynamic scorer (Sprewell/Pierce) to have success... History proves it.

"oh, but he led this and that in the 2008 playoffs"

Because Paul Pierce and Ray Allen allowed him the spacing to operate. Your team has no such weapons to allow KG to do that.

Think 2007 Timberwolves.

Rondo, no response here? Where's Kwit10? Maybe he can help. Clearly The alliance is still strong.

Hobbs?  ;)

Um...  Pau Gasol has yet to win a game in the playoffs without Kobe Bryant playing next to him. 

Also, of course, your statement is wrong.  KG reached the Western Conference Finals when he was the only player scoring 20 or more, either in the regular season or playoffs.

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Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #2023 on: August 19, 2009, 10:01:32 AM »

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KG has yet to surpass the first round without a 20 ppg scorer beside him. we've already gone over this, the notion that he can carry a team offensively is flawed. He needs a dynamic scorer (Sprewell/Pierce) to have success... History proves it.

"oh, but he led this and that in the 2008 playoffs"

Because Paul Pierce and Ray Allen allowed him the spacing to operate. Your team has no such weapons to allow KG to do that.

Think 2007 Timberwolves.

Rondo, no response here? Where's Kwit10? Maybe he can help. Clearly The alliance is still strong.

Hobbs?
When you look at Toronto you need to concentrate on how they would play defense not offense to understand why his team is so good. He has 3 people who have won or at least been candidates for defensive player of the year. They only need to score 85 points a game to win, that's how good their d is.
TP for Evantime, Defense and rebounding wins championships.

Nick, who are the champs right now? Defense and Rebounding huh? I'd say a go-to scorer combined with solidarity in other areas.

Re: 2009 Celticsblog Draft: Playoff Voting Analysis Thread
« Reply #2024 on: August 19, 2009, 10:05:08 AM »

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I'd say a go-to scorer combined with solidarity in other areas.

That only goes so far when the great defensive team limits / contains / shuts down the go-to scorer.

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