2009 Celticsblog Draft: Voting Analysis : Team of the Future

[wdleehi]

Wow!!

Just saw Tradetime voted the Boxers 14th behind his team, a team who's top 10 in their depth chart is:

Stephen Curry/Darren Collison
Wayne Ellington/Christian Eyenga
Caron Butler/Danny Green
Blake Griffin/Jeff Pendergraph
Javale McGee/BJ Mullens

vs the Boxers top 10:

Joel Przybilla/Dan Gadzuric/
Luis Scola/Darko Milicic
Gerald Wallace/Julian Wright
Stephen Jackson/Anthony Morrow
Ramon Sessions/George Hill

Am I the only one scratching my head on that one?

So much for making the playoffs? It was fun playing this game while it lasted!!

No more then someone putting a team built around Felton ahead of a team built around Williams.

[johnnyrondo]

Counterbalance to the I have Lebron James so there for I win Hype.  http://ihatelebronjames.com/ 

[nickagneta]

New York

Williams/Buckner
Carter/Dooling
Sefolosha/Walton
Williams/Maxiell
Perkins/Krstic

Miami

Felton/Law
Young/Harden
Outlaw/Batum
Thomas/Speights
Hawes/Fesenko

Miami went for a Future Team and new York went for a win now team. Miami has a lot of tough, young, gritty players. new York has a bunch of soft players. Miami will be a decent rebounding team, New York probably won't. Miami was active and amiable and here. New York wanted to play in an XBox Live Madden Tournament without owning an XBox or even a Madden game.

The rosters weren't all that far apart in talent but one player was here and did a good job of putting together a Future Team. The other GM hasn't posted a post on this site in a year and did a horrible job of putting together a win now team. So I gave the Miami team the benefit of the doubt and the higher ranking.

Then again maybe you're so defensive because it really isn't a New York team but a Denver team that happens to play in New York. heck, if my son or brother put together a bad team, I'ld call it a bad team, not defend it to the point of calling into question my integrity, not to mention the fact that I wouldn't pull strings to makke sure they kept a team they didn't deserve keeping because they had no way of playing the game.

[Scribbles]

I really want an explanation on how Startorien can vote his own team #1.    That's the only reason he can justify it..because its his own team. 

[wdleehi]

New York

Williams/Buckner
Carter/Dooling
Sefolosha/Walton
Williams/Maxiell
Perkins/Krstic

Miami

Felton/Law
Young/Harden
Outlaw/Batum
Thomas/Speights
Hawes/Fesenko

Miami went for a Future Team and new York went for a win now team. Miami has a lot of tough, young, gritty players. new York has a bunch of soft players. Miami will be a decent rebounding team, New York probably won't. Miami was active and amiable and here. New York wanted to play in an XBox Live Madden Tournament without owning an XBox or even a Madden game.

The rosters weren't all that far apart in talent but one player was here and did a good job of putting together a Future Team. The other GM hasn't posted a post on this site in a year and did a horrible job of putting together a win now team. So I gave the Miami team the benefit of the doubt and the higher ranking.

Then again maybe you're so defensive because it really isn't a New York team but a Denver team that happens to play in New York. heck, if my son or brother put together a bad team, I'ld call it a bad team, not defend it to the point of calling into question my integrity, not to mention the fact that I wouldn't pull strings to makke sure they kept a team they didn't deserve keeping because they had no way of playing the game.

Again, we are voting on where we think these teams would finish.  


So a team with guys that are playing keys spots on playoff teams (Williams with Utah, Carter with Orlando, Perk with Boston, Marvin Williams with Atlanta.  Bench players that are bench players with teams reaching conference Finals and NBA finals in Walton, Maxceil and Nesterovic.  

That team is the 2nd worst team in the East?



And are you going to continue harping on the fact that my brother lost his internet access to this site (since his home one quit and his work one blocks) and made his picks by calling me and talking about it that way as a reason not pick the Knicks?  


Why?  

Did you want to run the knicks?  Did you want some of their players?


Or is it just that you are afraid that many GMs are going to vote for that team over yours and the Knicks, and not the Boxers will make the playoffs?  


Because trust me, I spend to much time thinking about what I am going to do to put my own team together to try and run two teams.  

[wdleehi]

I really want an explanation on how Startorien can vote his own team #1.    That's the only reason he can justify it..because its his own team. 

I like it.


If you build a win now team and don't pick yourself number 1, doesn't that tell all the other GMs that your team is no good?

[Rondo2287]

New York

Williams/Buckner
Carter/Dooling
Sefolosha/Walton
Williams/Maxiell
Perkins/Krstic

Miami

Felton/Law
Young/Harden
Outlaw/Batum
Thomas/Speights
Hawes/Fesenko

Miami went for a Future Team and new York went for a win now team. Miami has a lot of tough, young, gritty players. new York has a bunch of soft players. Miami will be a decent rebounding team, New York probably won't. Miami was active and amiable and here. New York wanted to play in an XBox Live Madden Tournament without owning an XBox or even a Madden game.

The rosters weren't all that far apart in talent but one player was here and did a good job of putting together a Future Team. The other GM hasn't posted a post on this site in a year and did a horrible job of putting together a win now team. So I gave the Miami team the benefit of the doubt and the higher ranking.

Then again maybe you're so defensive because it really isn't a New York team but a Denver team that happens to play in New York. heck, if my son or brother put together a bad team, I'ld call it a bad team, not defend it to the point of calling into question my integrity, not to mention the fact that I wouldn't pull strings to makke sure they kept a team they didn't deserve keeping because they had no way of playing the game.

Again, we are voting on where we think these teams would finish.  


So a team with guys that are playing keys spots on playoff teams (Williams with Utah, Carter with Orlando, Perk with Boston, Marvin Williams with Atlanta.  Bench players that are bench players with teams reaching conference Finals and NBA finals in Walton, Maxceil and Nesterovic.  

That team is the 2nd worst team in the East?



And are you going to continue harping on the fact that my brother lost his internet access to this site (since his home one quit and his work one blocks) and made his picks by calling me and talking about it that way as a reason not pick the Knicks?  


Why?  

Did you want to run the knicks?  Did you want some of their players?


Or is it just that you are afraid that many GMs are going to vote for that team over yours and the Knicks, and not the Boxers will make the playoffs?  


Because trust me, I spend to much time thinking about what I am going to do to put my own team together to try and run two teams.  

Well Denver since you have the Southeast ranked so poorly with DC at number 12 I think its very possible that Miami wins more games than NY.  Since the Atlantic is so tough in this thing and you think teams like DC will perform so poorly somebody besides Orlando has to win games in that division. 

[JSD]

New York

Williams/Buckner
Carter/Dooling
Sefolosha/Walton
Williams/Maxiell
Perkins/Krstic

Miami

Felton/Law
Young/Harden
Outlaw/Batum
Thomas/Speights
Hawes/Fesenko

Miami went for a Future Team and new York went for a win now team. Miami has a lot of tough, young, gritty players. new York has a bunch of soft players. Miami will be a decent rebounding team, New York probably won't. Miami was active and amiable and here. New York wanted to play in an XBox Live Madden Tournament without owning an XBox or even a Madden game.

The rosters weren't all that far apart in talent but one player was here and did a good job of putting together a Future Team. The other GM hasn't posted a post on this site in a year and did a horrible job of putting together a win now team. So I gave the Miami team the benefit of the doubt and the higher ranking.

Then again maybe you're so defensive because it really isn't a New York team but a Denver team that happens to play in New York. heck, if my son or brother put together a bad team, I'ld call it a bad team, not defend it to the point of calling into question my integrity, not to mention the fact that I wouldn't pull strings to makke sure they kept a team they didn't deserve keeping because they had no way of playing the game.

Again, we are voting on where we think these teams would finish.  


So a team with guys that are playing keys spots on playoff teams (Williams with Utah, Carter with Orlando, Perk with Boston, Marvin Williams with Atlanta.  Bench players that are bench players with teams reaching conference Finals and NBA finals in Walton, Maxceil and Nesterovic.  

That team is the 2nd worst team in the East?



And are you going to continue harping on the fact that my brother lost his internet access to this site (since his home one quit and his work one blocks) and made his picks by calling me and talking about it that way as a reason not pick the Knicks?  


Why?  

Did you want to run the knicks?  Did you want some of their players?


Or is it just that you are afraid that many GMs are going to vote for that team over yours and the Knicks, and not the Boxers will make the playoffs?  


Because trust me, I spend to much time thinking about what I am going to do to put my own team together to try and run two teams.  

The 09 CB draft "a community at war" 

[wdleehi]

New York

Williams/Buckner
Carter/Dooling
Sefolosha/Walton
Williams/Maxiell
Perkins/Krstic

Miami

Felton/Law
Young/Harden
Outlaw/Batum
Thomas/Speights
Hawes/Fesenko

Miami went for a Future Team and new York went for a win now team. Miami has a lot of tough, young, gritty players. new York has a bunch of soft players. Miami will be a decent rebounding team, New York probably won't. Miami was active and amiable and here. New York wanted to play in an XBox Live Madden Tournament without owning an XBox or even a Madden game.

The rosters weren't all that far apart in talent but one player was here and did a good job of putting together a Future Team. The other GM hasn't posted a post on this site in a year and did a horrible job of putting together a win now team. So I gave the Miami team the benefit of the doubt and the higher ranking.

Then again maybe you're so defensive because it really isn't a New York team but a Denver team that happens to play in New York. heck, if my son or brother put together a bad team, I'ld call it a bad team, not defend it to the point of calling into question my integrity, not to mention the fact that I wouldn't pull strings to makke sure they kept a team they didn't deserve keeping because they had no way of playing the game.

Again, we are voting on where we think these teams would finish.  


So a team with guys that are playing keys spots on playoff teams (Williams with Utah, Carter with Orlando, Perk with Boston, Marvin Williams with Atlanta.  Bench players that are bench players with teams reaching conference Finals and NBA finals in Walton, Maxceil and Nesterovic.  

That team is the 2nd worst team in the East?



And are you going to continue harping on the fact that my brother lost his internet access to this site (since his home one quit and his work one blocks) and made his picks by calling me and talking about it that way as a reason not pick the Knicks?  


Why?  

Did you want to run the knicks?  Did you want some of their players?


Or is it just that you are afraid that many GMs are going to vote for that team over yours and the Knicks, and not the Boxers will make the playoffs?  


Because trust me, I spend to much time thinking about what I am going to do to put my own team together to try and run two teams.  

Well Denver since you have the Southeast ranked so poorly with DC at number 12 I think its very possible that Miami wins more games than NY.  Since the Atlantic is so tough in this thing and you think teams like DC will perform so poorly somebody besides Orlando has to win games in that division. 

I think alot of teams are going to split in the Atlantic and clean up outside the division.  


And how many in division games are there vs. total games?

16 division games.  52 conference games.  82 total games.

Do you really think those 16 games are going to make a big difference?

[Rondo2287]

New York

Williams/Buckner
Carter/Dooling
Sefolosha/Walton
Williams/Maxiell
Perkins/Krstic

Miami

Felton/Law
Young/Harden
Outlaw/Batum
Thomas/Speights
Hawes/Fesenko

Miami went for a Future Team and new York went for a win now team. Miami has a lot of tough, young, gritty players. new York has a bunch of soft players. Miami will be a decent rebounding team, New York probably won't. Miami was active and amiable and here. New York wanted to play in an XBox Live Madden Tournament without owning an XBox or even a Madden game.

The rosters weren't all that far apart in talent but one player was here and did a good job of putting together a Future Team. The other GM hasn't posted a post on this site in a year and did a horrible job of putting together a win now team. So I gave the Miami team the benefit of the doubt and the higher ranking.

Then again maybe you're so defensive because it really isn't a New York team but a Denver team that happens to play in New York. heck, if my son or brother put together a bad team, I'ld call it a bad team, not defend it to the point of calling into question my integrity, not to mention the fact that I wouldn't pull strings to makke sure they kept a team they didn't deserve keeping because they had no way of playing the game.

Again, we are voting on where we think these teams would finish.  


So a team with guys that are playing keys spots on playoff teams (Williams with Utah, Carter with Orlando, Perk with Boston, Marvin Williams with Atlanta.  Bench players that are bench players with teams reaching conference Finals and NBA finals in Walton, Maxceil and Nesterovic.  

That team is the 2nd worst team in the East?



And are you going to continue harping on the fact that my brother lost his internet access to this site (since his home one quit and his work one blocks) and made his picks by calling me and talking about it that way as a reason not pick the Knicks?  


Why?  

Did you want to run the knicks?  Did you want some of their players?


Or is it just that you are afraid that many GMs are going to vote for that team over yours and the Knicks, and not the Boxers will make the playoffs?  


Because trust me, I spend to much time thinking about what I am going to do to put my own team together to try and run two teams.  

Well Denver since you have the Southeast ranked so poorly with DC at number 12 I think its very possible that Miami wins more games than NY.  Since the Atlantic is so tough in this thing and you think teams like DC will perform so poorly somebody besides Orlando has to win games in that division. 

I think alot of teams are going to split in the Atlantic and clean up outside the division.  


And how many in division games are there vs. total games?

16 division games.  52 conference games.  82 total games.

Do you really think those 16 games are going to make a big difference?

Wouldent it be
16 games against your division
36 games against your conference outside your division
30 games against the west?

Id say they will probably make a difference.  Especially since I see NY as clearly the worst team in a tough Atlantic.  I see them getting beat up on in the Atlantic. 

[wdleehi]

New York

Williams/Buckner
Carter/Dooling
Sefolosha/Walton
Williams/Maxiell
Perkins/Krstic

Miami

Felton/Law
Young/Harden
Outlaw/Batum
Thomas/Speights
Hawes/Fesenko

Miami went for a Future Team and new York went for a win now team. Miami has a lot of tough, young, gritty players. new York has a bunch of soft players. Miami will be a decent rebounding team, New York probably won't. Miami was active and amiable and here. New York wanted to play in an XBox Live Madden Tournament without owning an XBox or even a Madden game.

The rosters weren't all that far apart in talent but one player was here and did a good job of putting together a Future Team. The other GM hasn't posted a post on this site in a year and did a horrible job of putting together a win now team. So I gave the Miami team the benefit of the doubt and the higher ranking.

Then again maybe you're so defensive because it really isn't a New York team but a Denver team that happens to play in New York. heck, if my son or brother put together a bad team, I'ld call it a bad team, not defend it to the point of calling into question my integrity, not to mention the fact that I wouldn't pull strings to makke sure they kept a team they didn't deserve keeping because they had no way of playing the game.

Again, we are voting on where we think these teams would finish.  


So a team with guys that are playing keys spots on playoff teams (Williams with Utah, Carter with Orlando, Perk with Boston, Marvin Williams with Atlanta.  Bench players that are bench players with teams reaching conference Finals and NBA finals in Walton, Maxceil and Nesterovic.  

That team is the 2nd worst team in the East?



And are you going to continue harping on the fact that my brother lost his internet access to this site (since his home one quit and his work one blocks) and made his picks by calling me and talking about it that way as a reason not pick the Knicks?  


Why?  

Did you want to run the knicks?  Did you want some of their players?


Or is it just that you are afraid that many GMs are going to vote for that team over yours and the Knicks, and not the Boxers will make the playoffs?  


Because trust me, I spend to much time thinking about what I am going to do to put my own team together to try and run two teams.  

Well Denver since you have the Southeast ranked so poorly with DC at number 12 I think its very possible that Miami wins more games than NY.  Since the Atlantic is so tough in this thing and you think teams like DC will perform so poorly somebody besides Orlando has to win games in that division. 

I think alot of teams are going to split in the Atlantic and clean up outside the division.  


And how many in division games are there vs. total games?

16 division games.  52 conference games.  82 total games.

Do you really think those 16 games are going to make a big difference?

Wouldent it be
16 games against your division
36 games against your conference outside your division
30 games against the west?

Id say they will probably make a difference.  Especially since I see NY as clearly the worst team in a tough Atlantic.  I see them getting beat up on in the Atlantic. 

I have them third in the Atlantic.  And with their size, I see them doing more of the physical beatings on the other teams. 


Like I said, I can see the atlantic teams all around split in conference games, and cleaning up outside the conference (why I have all 5 teams making the playoffs)

[Rondo2287]

Ok, well there isnt really any point in me trying to change your mind.  But I do think there having him in 12th is questionable.

[wdleehi]

Ok, well there isnt really any point in me trying to change your mind.  But I do think there having him in 12th is questionable.

I'm not looking to change minds. 


I just don't like it when one GM calls out another GM because he feels his team placement was 'questionable' when his own vote had an equally 'questionable' placement.

[dark_lord]

...and people think im a geek bc of my love for star wars   

[wdleehi]

...and people think im a geek bc of my love for star wars   

I think if you look through one of the other many post, there is the "we be geeks" confession.