Spears-Twitter: DETstill interested in BBD S&T

[Spilling Green Dye]

If we can get anything of value, I'd definitely do it.  Just no Kwame Brown.. although I might have to consider it..

TP to you Prof for the detroit announcer comment

No, you don't need consider it. If we are going to get Kwame we're better off giving Davis away for free.

lol true.  It's amazing how far Kwame Brown has fallen in his career. 

[Lucky17]

I'd take Maxiell over Davis in a heartbeat.

Last season, Davis averaged 7 pts and 4 rbs in 22 minutes a game, before stepping it up in the playoffs.

In his best season, Maxiell averaged 8 pts and 5 rbs in 22 minutes a game.

I'll take the short power forward who can shoot the j.

Mike

BTW, Davis' effective shooting percentage (eFG) on jump shots was just under 37% last year. Maxiell's was just under 35%.

Davis:
http://www.82games.com/0809/08BOS13.HTM

Maxiell:
http://www.82games.com/0809/08DET13.HTM

Considering that Maxiell is nearly as effective as Davis in Davis' only real skill, I'll definitely take Maxiell.

Yet more evidence that you can find statistics to back up any idiotic contention.  Like how Maxiell averaged a whopping 3.8 pts and 3.3 rebs in the playoffs, while Davis put up 15.8 pts and 5.6 rebs.

Mike

That's constructive 

Using newfangled stats to back up idiotic contentions is one of the staples of modern sports discussions.

Mike

That's twice you've called my line of argument "idiotic" without offering anything constructive to the debate.

You should take a page from Budweiser Celtic.

[Bankshot]

I'd probably trade Davis for Brown. You cannot teach size. We would have one of the biggest and most dynamic front courts in the league.

I'd then go ahead and throw the LLE at Joey Graham, Rashad McCants, and Flip Murray, in the hopes that one of them bites, and hopefully that one being Flip. But, in all honesty, any one of those guys would be solid.

House
Flip, Graham, McCants
Daniels
Wallace
Brown

You do know that Kwame Brown is a KNOWN BUST, right?

[FanInTheSouth]

I'd take Maxiell over Davis in a heartbeat.

Last season, Davis averaged 7 pts and 4 rbs in 22 minutes a game, before stepping it up in the playoffs.

In his best season, Maxiell averaged 8 pts and 5 rbs in 22 minutes a game.

I'll take the short power forward who can shoot the j.

Mike

BTW, Davis' effective shooting percentage (eFG) on jump shots was just under 37% last year. Maxiell's was just under 35%.

Davis:
http://www.82games.com/0809/08BOS13.HTM

Maxiell:
http://www.82games.com/0809/08DET13.HTM

Considering that Maxiell is nearly as effective as Davis in Davis' only real skill, I'll definitely take Maxiell.

Yet more evidence that you can find statistics to back up any idiotic contention.  Like how Maxiell averaged a whopping 3.8 pts and 3.3 rebs in the playoffs, while Davis put up 15.8 pts and 5.6 rebs.

Mike

That's constructive 

Using newfangled stats to back up idiotic contentions is one of the staples of modern sports discussions.

Mike

I was just under the impression that CBers were of a higher standard than most blogs.  Just because your opinion differs from someone else doesn't mean that their opinion is "idiotic."

[KungPoweChicken]

I'd probably trade Davis for Brown. You cannot teach size. We would have one of the biggest and most dynamic front courts in the league.

I'd then go ahead and throw the LLE at Joey Graham, Rashad McCants, and Flip Murray, in the hopes that one of them bites, and hopefully that one being Flip. But, in all honesty, any one of those guys would be solid.

House
Flip, Graham, McCants
Daniels
Wallace
Brown

You do know that Kwame Brown is a KNOWN BUST, right?

He's a bust when you factor in where he was picked; that doesn't mean he cannot be a useful big man, though. For his career he averages double digits in points and nearly rebounds. Big Baby probably won't be that successful. At this point, we know who Kwame is. He's not going to be the next Wilt, and that's fine. He's just a big man, a body, a frame to knock some heads in the paint, which is enough for me, even when you factor in his less than stellar work ethic.

[BudweiserCeltic]

I'd probably trade Davis for Brown. You cannot teach size. We would have one of the biggest and most dynamic front courts in the league.

I'd then go ahead and throw the LLE at Joey Graham, Rashad McCants, and Flip Murray, in the hopes that one of them bites, and hopefully that one being Flip. But, in all honesty, any one of those guys would be solid.

House
Flip, Graham, McCants
Daniels
Wallace
Brown

You do know that Kwame Brown is a KNOWN BUST, right?

He's a bust when you factor in where he was picked; that doesn't mean he cannot be a useful big man, though. For his career he averages double digits in points and nearly rebounds. Big Baby probably won't be that successful. At this point, we know who Kwame is. He's not going to be the next Wilt, and that's fine. He's just a big man, a body, a frame to knock some heads in the paint, which is enough for me, even when you factor in his less than stellar work ethic.

If people think TA is dumb, Kwame Brown is mentally challenged. If the NBA has 500 players, Kwame Brown would be about the 500th player I would want in my team. Maybe 499th right before Kobe.

[jdpapa3]

Only two players of interest to me on Detroit's roster (that are attainable) are Bynum and Maxiell.

[Bankshot]

Only two players of interest to me on Detroit's roster (that are attainable) are Bynum and Maxiell.

Maxiel is not good.  Never improved since his rookie year. 

I'm only interested in one player from Detroit.  Tayshaun Prince.

[GreenShooter]

Not to jump into the "idiotic" p---ing contest but how would Maxiells numbers look if he got the minutes BBD got after KG got hurt?

I'm not saying I'd rather have Max, I'm just sayin'.

[vitaminC]

BABY>>> maxiel

[Bankshot]

Not to jump into the "idiotic" ****ing contest but how would Maxiells numbers look if he got the minutes BBD got after KG got hurt?

I'm not saying I'd rather have Max, I'm just sayin'.

When Maxiel played more minutes, he performed worse. Check out his starting numbers or numbers where he got significant minutes.  I'm willing to bet they aren't as good as BBD's playoff numbers.

[Smitty77]

Since Big Baby is a BYP, we can only count half of the amount in a sign and trade, correct?  This has been mentioned before and I really like this trade, IF we really don't want to pay Baby more than 3.5 million per.  A resigned Big Baby starting at 4.5 and Scals (3.4 million)for Kwame Brown and Will Bynum.  Will would be a great backup PG and I definitely believe that Brown would be better than Robert Swift or someone like that.  I will never forget when the Wizards destroyed our C's years ago when Kwame was a rookie or a second year player.  I blocked like 5 or 6 shots.  He has tremendous shot blocking potential, but has never consistently developed that aspect of his game.  Under KG's tutelage, he might finally harness some of his vast potential.  He is still young and is in the last year of his contract.

Once again, I ONLY do this if Danny has decided not to go over 4 million for Baby and his agent is demanding more than that.  Then, we must S & T anyway.

Thoughts???

[Fafnir]

I'd take Maxiell over Davis in a heartbeat.

Last season, Davis averaged 7 pts and 4 rbs in 22 minutes a game, before stepping it up in the playoffs.

In his best season, Maxiell averaged 8 pts and 5 rbs in 22 minutes a game.

I'll take the short power forward who can shoot the j.

Mike

BTW, Davis' effective shooting percentage (eFG) on jump shots was just under 37% last year. Maxiell's was just under 35%.

Davis:
http://www.82games.com/0809/08BOS13.HTM

Maxiell:
http://www.82games.com/0809/08DET13.HTM

Considering that Maxiell is nearly as effective as Davis in Davis' only real skill, I'll definitely take Maxiell.

Yet more evidence that you can find statistics to back up any idiotic contention.  Like how Maxiell averaged a whopping 3.8 pts and 3.3 rebs in the playoffs, while Davis put up 15.8 pts and 5.6 rebs.

Mike

That's constructive 

Using newfangled stats to back up idiotic contentions is one of the staples of modern sports discussions.

Mike

Dismissing statistical arguments you don't understand, or can't refute as "idiotic" is another one.

Maxiell didn't improve as expected when given more minutes. He's still a more effective rebounder and efficient scorer off the bench. I don't want him at 5 million, but I do think he'd be just as valuable as BBD on this team.

[Fafnir]

Not to jump into the "idiotic" ****ing contest but how would Maxiells numbers look if he got the minutes BBD got after KG got hurt?

I'm not saying I'd rather have Max, I'm just sayin'.

When Maxiel played more minutes, he performed worse. Check out his starting numbers or numbers where he got significant minutes.  I'm willing to bet they aren't as good as BBD's playoff numbers.

I'm not sure why you can't do the leg work if you're going to be disputing another person's arguments. The burden shouldn't be on him to compare Maxiell and BBD from five different statistical angles.

[Birdbrain]

BABY>>> maxiel

And it's not very close to be honest. 

And Kwame Brown isn't any good either and dumb as box of rocks like previously mentioned. 

Watch some games and stop being a slave to stats.