Passing along some Cleveland speculation

[MMacOH]

Word around the block is that Eyenga (Cavs 1st rd pick) was actually being eyed heavily by the Raptors.  Cavs may have picked him up in an effort to acquire more possible trade assets to try and get Bosh at the deadline if Toronto is faltering.

Something along the lines of West, Hickson, AV, Eyenga, a first rounder for Bosh. 

The trade scenario is pure speculation but it is interesting that the Cavs grabbed the guy that Toronto wanted. 

[RAcker]

That is interesting speculation, but I would think that Toronto would have to be completely awful for them to pull the trigger on something like that midseason.  This would essentially begin the official rebuilding phase of the Raptors.

[footey]

Word around the block is that Eyenga (Cavs 1st rd pick) was actually being eyed heavily by the Raptors.  Cavs may have picked him up in an effort to acquire more possible trade assets to try and get Bosh at the deadline if Toronto is faltering.

Something along the lines of West, Hickson, AV, Eyenga, a first rounder for Bosh. 

The trade scenario is pure speculation but it is interesting that the Cavs grabbed the guy that Toronto wanted. 

Great to point this out.  Given that Bosh is rumored to want to leave Toronto, this totally makes sense to me.

[Eeyore III]

Makes sense to me too.  Nice find OP--TP4U.

[Chris]

Word around the block is that Eyenga (Cavs 1st rd pick) was actually being eyed heavily by the Raptors.  Cavs may have picked him up in an effort to acquire more possible trade assets to try and get Bosh at the deadline if Toronto is faltering.

Something along the lines of West, Hickson, AV, Eyenga, a first rounder for Bosh. 

The trade scenario is pure speculation but it is interesting that the Cavs grabbed the guy that Toronto wanted. 

Eh, I think it is a real stretch.  If they really used a draft pick to get a guy, with the hope that another team will completely change their tune on trading him mid-season, then the GM should be fired.  I guarantee Eyenga is not going to be what gets the Cavs Chris Bosh.  I am not saying the deal couldn't happen, because it could.  But I think whoever is speculating this is REALLY overthinking things.

[Roy Hobbs]

I guarantee Eyenga is not going to be what gets the Cavs Chris Bosh.

I agree.  He simply doesn't have enough value to be the deciding factor.

Also, I don't think the Raptors are going to trade Bosh, period.  They're trying to build around him.

[MMacOH]

Word around the block is that Eyenga (Cavs 1st rd pick) was actually being eyed heavily by the Raptors.  Cavs may have picked him up in an effort to acquire more possible trade assets to try and get Bosh at the deadline if Toronto is faltering.

Something along the lines of West, Hickson, AV, Eyenga, a first rounder for Bosh. 

The trade scenario is pure speculation but it is interesting that the Cavs grabbed the guy that Toronto wanted. 

Eh, I think it is a real stretch.  If they really used a draft pick to get a guy, with the hope that another team will completely change their tune on trading him mid-season, then the GM should be fired.  I guarantee Eyenga is not going to be what gets the Cavs Chris Bosh.  I am not saying the deal couldn't happen, because it could.  But I think whoever is speculating this is REALLY overthinking things.

Well, if Bosh says he will not sign an extentsion than Toronto has no choice but to trade him or get nothing for him.  The Cavs now have another piece Toronto may be interested in which just helps get a deal done.  

I don't think Ferry drafted Eyenga specifically to trade him to Toronto (eyenga has been showing all kinds of potential in summer league), but if Eyenga can help get a deal done then so be it.

As a Cavs fan, I get giddy thinking about that a trade for Bosh would give the Cavs bird rights which means they could sign him to a max extension along with Lebron.  They could also sign Shaq to another contract next year in the same fashion (although not near a max deal).  Lebron, Bosh and Shaq would be a great trio for a few years.  Of course, the odds of this happening are very close to zero, but what fun is the offseason if I can't completely overreact to some speculation?  

[indeedproceed]

not to hijack the thread, but how did the Cavs not try harder for Rasheed Wallace? As a Cavs fan you must be thiking he would've worked out in Cleveland.

[MMacOH]

not to hijack the thread, but how did the Cavs not try harder for Rasheed Wallace? As a Cavs fan you must be thiking he would've worked out in Cleveland.

Too many years for too much money.  The Cavs are keeping maximum flexibility for next year.  He is a great complimentary piece but he ties up too much cap space.  I think they also really wanted Parker and Ferry knew he couldn't have both

[indeedproceed]

not to hijack the thread, but how did the Cavs not try harder for Rasheed Wallace? As a Cavs fan you must be thiking he would've worked out in Cleveland.

Too many years for too much money.  The Cavs are keeping maximum flexibility for next year.  He is a great complimentary piece but he ties up too much cap space.  I think they also really wanted Parker and Ferry knew he couldn't have both

Interesting.

How do you feel about Moon's signing when you also just got Anthony Parker? its not exactly redundant, but he wasn't exactly a need either, was he?

[guava_wrench]

Word around the block is that Eyenga (Cavs 1st rd pick) was actually being eyed heavily by the Raptors.  Cavs may have picked him up in an effort to acquire more possible trade assets to try and get Bosh at the deadline if Toronto is faltering.

Something along the lines of West, Hickson, AV, Eyenga, a first rounder for Bosh. 

The trade scenario is pure speculation but it is interesting that the Cavs grabbed the guy that Toronto wanted. 

Eh, I think it is a real stretch.  If they really used a draft pick to get a guy, with the hope that another team will completely change their tune on trading him mid-season, then the GM should be fired.  I guarantee Eyenga is not going to be what gets the Cavs Chris Bosh.  I am not saying the deal couldn't happen, because it could.  But I think whoever is speculating this is REALLY overthinking things.

Well, if Bosh says he will not sign an extentsion than Toronto has no choice but to trade him or get nothing for him.  The Cavs now have another piece Toronto may be interested in which just helps get a deal done.  

I don't think Ferry drafted Eyenga specifically to trade him to Toronto (eyenga has been showing all kinds of potential in summer league), but if Eyenga can help get a deal done then so be it.

As a Cavs fan, I get giddy thinking about that a trade for Bosh would give the Cavs bird rights which means they could sign him to a max extension along with Lebron.  They could also sign Shaq to another contract next year in the same fashion (although not near a max deal).  Lebron, Bosh and Shaq would be a great trio for a few years.  Of course, the odds of this happening are very close to zero, but what fun is the offseason if I can't completely overreact to some speculation?  

Just because he doesn't sign an extension doesn't mean he wants to leave. It may just mean he wants a longer contract. He can't get the same with an extension.

[MMacOH]

Well, if Bosh says he will not sign an extentsion than Toronto has no choice but to trade him or get nothing for him.  The Cavs now have another piece Toronto may be interested in which just helps get a deal done.  

I don't think Ferry drafted Eyenga specifically to trade him to Toronto (eyenga has been showing all kinds of potential in summer league), but if Eyenga can help get a deal done then so be it.

As a Cavs fan, I get giddy thinking about that a trade for Bosh would give the Cavs bird rights which means they could sign him to a max extension along with Lebron.  They could also sign Shaq to another contract next year in the same fashion (although not near a max deal).  Lebron, Bosh and Shaq would be a great trio for a few years.  Of course, the odds of this happening are very close to zero, but what fun is the offseason if I can't completely overreact to some speculation?  

Just because he doesn't sign an extension doesn't mean he wants to leave. It may just mean he wants a longer contract. He can't get the same with an extension.

I should have typed that better.  What I meant was if Bosh went to the Raptors during the season and told them that he will not be signing a new contract with them and that he was going to become a free agent.  Then the Raptors would have to trade him (think Shaq in Orlando).

Also, I like the Moon signing.  Just another athletic wing player to play defense

[Prof. Clutch]

I still have this gut feeling that Bron Bron, at his core, will not be about loyalty to the Cleveland fans and Ohio.  It just doesn't fit in with his repertoire.  I would love for him to stay there and think it would be a classy move in an otherwise already overhyped and narcissistic career that he's had.  My biggest dislike with him is this way that he's so into himself.  He's an amazing player and will probably win a few championships in his time, but he already carries himself like he is Michael Jordan.  He's bought into his own hype, one that was given to him by the media  before he's produced anything to the likeness of Jordan.  Obviously, he's got a long career ahead of him, but I think he could be a little bit more humble considering he has ultimately not won anything yet.  This whole "we are all witness" biblical innuendo makes me want to gag.

I think he bolts for the money and bigger markets next season, not for the best shot at a championship or to reward his faithful followers.  Don't get me wrong, he's an absolutely incredible player, but he's all about the show, and I expect him to go where he can be a part of a bigger one than they got going on in Cleveland.  If he leaves it, it means no Bosh, no Shaq, and no championship for Cleveland.

I honestly, for the good of the game, hope he proves me wrong.

[KungPoweChicken]

I guarantee Eyenga is not going to be what gets the Cavs Chris Bosh.

I agree.  He simply doesn't have enough value to be the deciding factor.

Also, I don't think the Raptors are going to trade Bosh, period.  They're trying to build around him.

Who's doing the building, monkeys?

[Chris]

Word around the block is that Eyenga (Cavs 1st rd pick) was actually being eyed heavily by the Raptors.  Cavs may have picked him up in an effort to acquire more possible trade assets to try and get Bosh at the deadline if Toronto is faltering.

Something along the lines of West, Hickson, AV, Eyenga, a first rounder for Bosh. 

The trade scenario is pure speculation but it is interesting that the Cavs grabbed the guy that Toronto wanted. 

Eh, I think it is a real stretch.  If they really used a draft pick to get a guy, with the hope that another team will completely change their tune on trading him mid-season, then the GM should be fired.  I guarantee Eyenga is not going to be what gets the Cavs Chris Bosh.  I am not saying the deal couldn't happen, because it could.  But I think whoever is speculating this is REALLY overthinking things.

Well, if Bosh says he will not sign an extentsion than Toronto has no choice but to trade him or get nothing for him.  The Cavs now have another piece Toronto may be interested in which just helps get a deal done.  

I don't think Ferry drafted Eyenga specifically to trade him to Toronto (eyenga has been showing all kinds of potential in summer league), but if Eyenga can help get a deal done then so be it.

As a Cavs fan, I get giddy thinking about that a trade for Bosh would give the Cavs bird rights which means they could sign him to a max extension along with Lebron.  They could also sign Shaq to another contract next year in the same fashion (although not near a max deal).  Lebron, Bosh and Shaq would be a great trio for a few years.  Of course, the odds of this happening are very close to zero, but what fun is the offseason if I can't completely overreact to some speculation?  

Like I said, it absolutely could happen (although I would be shocked, since I think there are teams who would offer better packages than a late first round prospect, and a bunch of roleplayers...some of which are grossly overpaid), I just think this "speculation" is pretty ridiculous at this point in the game, given the fact that the Raptors could very easily have bought a pick to get Eyenga if they wanted him that badly.