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Re: Why all the interest in Glen Davis (around the NBA)?
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2009, 06:26:40 PM »

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A lot of teams kicked the tires on Davis as a possible fall back option. 

Yeah, that about sums up the Davis interest. He's gotta wait his turn after 5 more bigs sign.

Re: Why all the interest in Glen Davis (around the NBA)?
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2009, 07:00:37 PM »

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If I am a rival GM, I'd rather get a starter at the 4: Odom, Millsap, Lee, Varajao

Or go get one of these reserves:
M Williams

None of those guys seems amiable to the MLE or below, which means all teams except Portland, Oklahoma City, and their current teams are irrelevant. 

Why even bring them up?  They are pointless discussion points.

Also I'd rather have Davis than Varajeo if salary is a consideration.  He's a pretty one dimensional player

A McDyess (at lease we've hear he is higher on the totem pole)
C Frye

They appear to be higher on the consideration set with the top teams.

Z Pachulia
D Gooden
C Wilcox
B Bass
H Warrick

It is debatable, but I'd rather have Davis than Gooden, Wilcox, or Bass at this point in their careers.  Warrick is interesting, but he's a tweener.   Pachulia is more attractive based on position.

Re: Why all the interest in Glen Davis (around the NBA)?
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2009, 07:15:04 PM »

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I think by getting him to UFA one season earlier his agent did him a disservice. Not a knock to BBD, but I think it is part of the economic landscape. 

With the economy down and the strength of 2010 FA class a lot of mid-level teams are not interested in adding payroll, especially for a borderline player. IMO he may have been picked up for something like 4 years 20 mil as a Plan B next year, but the willingness to spend isn't there this year.

That leaves him with elite teams.  These teams only have the MLE and there are bigs ahead of him on their wish lists.  Therefore, he will probably be the 4th big on these teams and the offer sheets will be lower.  Good for the C's (as they can S&T or match), not so good for BBD. 

Re: Why all the interest in Glen Davis (around the NBA)?
« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2009, 08:18:55 PM »

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If I am a rival GM, I'd rather get a starter at the 4: Odom, Millsap, Lee, Varajao

Or go get one of these reserves:
M Williams

None of those guys seems amiable to the MLE or below, which means all teams except Portland, Oklahoma City, and their current teams are irrelevant. 

Why even bring them up?  They are pointless discussion points.

POR, OKL, MEM and their current teams = 7/30 NBA teams. Thats still a big percentage. Plus there is always sign and trade scenarios. And you never know if something goes sour and say Odom takes the MLE somewhere.

Anyway, to add onto this thread... I think the Davis numbers must be dropping. There is no way he's going to get 5 mil/year. Bass signed for about 4/year. Thats the ceiling.

Also there are still 6 RFA forwards I'd value higher or on an equal level with Davis out there: Lee, M Williams, Kleiza, Warrick, Childress, and Moon.

Joe Smith is still available.

I think Davis will be back in green within 2 weeks.

Re: Why all the interest in Glen Davis (around the NBA)?
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2009, 08:35:09 PM »

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Re: Why all the interest in Glen Davis (around the NBA)?
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2009, 08:53:06 PM »

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There would probably be interest if here were a UFA. Since he is restricted teams most likely feel the price is too high to pry him away from the Celtics.

Re: Why all the interest in Glen Davis (around the NBA)?
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2009, 08:58:00 PM »

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If there was that much interest he probably would have signed by now.
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Re: Why all the interest in Glen Davis (around the NBA)?
« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2009, 10:32:42 PM »

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If there was that much interest he probably would have signed by now.
I don't know, RFA's often take a lot of time to shake out. Especially given that Millsap/Lee/Williams still need to shake out.

Re: Why all the interest in Glen Davis (around the NBA)?
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2009, 10:33:26 PM »

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i think his agent is doing his job but in the end i think the best offer comes from boston

Re: Why all the interest in Glen Davis (around the NBA)?
« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2009, 10:34:46 PM »

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i think his agent is doing his job but in the end i think the best offer comes from boston
I have my doubts on that, but I do think Boston will match the best offer he recieves.

Though he could play for the QO, that'd be a very dumb move though.

Re: Why all the interest in Glen Davis (around the NBA)?
« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2009, 10:44:38 PM »

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i think his agent is doing his job but in the end i think the best offer comes from boston
I have my doubts on that, but I do think Boston will match the best offer he recieves.

Though he could play for the QO, that'd be a very dumb move though.
I'm not so sure that taking the QO would be such a bad move on baby's part. KG and Wallace are entering their 15th seasons. Perk has a trick shoulder. If people get hurt again and Baby improves as much again this year as he did last year while simultaneously showing he can lose and keep off weight, he could do much better than the MLE next year.

It's definitely a risk and one that could back fire if he sits on the bench all year and never gets the chance to put up stats in good minutes. But taking the QO and gambling on his ability to improve could pay off big time with another big improvement again.

It would take a pretty large set as an agent to suggest that to Baby though, I'll give you that.

Re: Why all the interest in Glen Davis (around the NBA)?
« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2009, 11:17:21 PM »

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If there was that much interest he probably would have signed by now.
I've had this same thought.  I have a hard time believing he's getting a ton of great offers since nothing at all has happened to this point.

Re: Why all the interest in Glen Davis (around the NBA)?
« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2009, 11:26:45 PM »

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i think his agent is doing his job but in the end i think the best offer comes from boston
I have my doubts on that, but I do think Boston will match the best offer he recieves.

Though he could play for the QO, that'd be a very dumb move though.
I'm not so sure that taking the QO would be such a bad move on baby's part. KG and Wallace are entering their 15th seasons. Perk has a trick shoulder. If people get hurt again and Baby improves as much again this year as he did last year while simultaneously showing he can lose and keep off weight, he could do much better than the MLE next year.

It's definitely a risk and one that could back fire if he sits on the bench all year and never gets the chance to put up stats in good minutes. But taking the QO and gambling on his ability to improve could pay off big time with another big improvement again.

It would take a pretty large set as an agent to suggest that to Baby though, I'll give you that.
Considering how much the cap will shrink next year, a lot of teams might be feeling cheap then.

Re: Why all the interest in Glen Davis (around the NBA)?
« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2009, 11:30:05 PM »

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If there was that much interest he probably would have signed by now.
I've had this same thought.  I have a hard time believing he's getting a ton of great offers since nothing at all has happened to this point.

Actually that's not true. RFA's always get their contracts later. Milsap's the only person whose gotten an offer sheet yet. People just wait till the market's set (and also wait for a team to spend a lot of money).

It's actually weird that Josh Childress / Marvin Williams haven't been given offer-sheets yet. After Atlanta's spent so much money already, they're the least likely of the teams out there to match their RFA
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Re: Why all the interest in Glen Davis (around the NBA)?
« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2009, 11:32:54 PM »

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If there was that much interest he probably would have signed by now.
I've had this same thought.  I have a hard time believing he's getting a ton of great offers since nothing at all has happened to this point.

Actually that's not true. RFA's always get their contracts later. Milsap's the only person whose gotten an offer sheet yet. People just wait till the market's set (and also wait for a team to spend a lot of money).

It's actually weird that Josh Childress / Marvin Williams haven't been given offer-sheets yet. After Atlanta's spent so much money already, they're the least likely of the teams out there to match their RFA
While I think you have a valid point, isn't it strange that there is no scuttle in the rumor mill at all?