2009 Celticsblog Draft: Draft Thread

[Rondo2287]

News is that Gilbert is in the best shape since he joined the Wizards.  Also in the games he did play last year he was effective netting double digit points and assists in both games.  Granted it is a very small sample, but there is no reason he cant be just as effective if not more effective when he comes back after a summer more of Rehab with the Trainer that returned DWade to elite NBA status. 

[JSD]

News is that Gilbert is in the best shape since he joined the Wizards.  Also in the games he did play last year he was effective netting double digit points and assists in both games.  Granted it is a very small sample, but there is no reason he cant be just as effective if not more effective when he comes back after a summer more of Rehab with the Trainer that returned DWade to elite NBA status. 

Do you regret picking a player that you have to do this much lobbying for yet?

[nickagneta]

So I was looking at the rules and I believe that for this excercise it should be assumed that Gilbert will start and be at full health.  Based on the rules it says that if there is real news providing evidence that a player will be active in the NBA or NBADL they are assumed an active player for this league.  Based on this we are very excited to have a top 10 NBA player on our team and to have drafted him in the middle of the 2nd round. 

1) In order for a player to be eligiblbe to be drafted, the player must be an active NBA player, an active NBDL player, or an active overseas player.  High school and college players are ineligible to be drafted.  Retired players are eligible to be drafted if there is recent indication that the player is contemplating a return to either the NBA, NBDL, or .  This can be achieved by illustrating news dated within the past 60 days.  If you wish to draft a retired player and there is no recent news, you can still appeal the player to the Commissioner for review.

2) In regards to overseas players, it should be noted that you are drafting the "rights" to that player, however, if they are under contract to a team in a foreign league, then they're staying there unless real news can be provided illustrating a buy-out is in the works. (Same 60 day rule from retired player rule applies here)

I think the problem is that while KG and Agent 0 START the season at full health, people are skeptical that they will remain that way. And that potential injury factor hurts your team.

That is fine, but the feelings expressed here yesterday were that they Gilbert was not going to play this season

I had never stated that I thought he wouldn't played all season, what I was saying is that I have doubts he will be the same player or be just as good as he was before.  Almost two years off from competitive play is a long time, and that was my concern.  I never thought he would be out for an entire 3rd year, I'm just a bit skeptical...But as I said he he proves me wrong I will give your team more than it's due at the next round of voting, but at this time I still have some doubts.  Nothing personal.

Me either. Nothing personal and Gilbert could be a great player again but he should need to prove it before anyone on this board starts voting for the Raptors under the assumption that Gilbert is the Gilbert of March 2007.

Personally, because of his injuries and time away from the game I had Arenas as a late 4th rounder, maybe lower.

[nickagneta]

News is that Gilbert is in the best shape since he joined the Wizards.  Also in the games he did play last year he was effective netting double digit points and assists in both games.  Granted it is a very small sample, but there is no reason he cant be just as effective if not more effective when he comes back after a summer more of Rehab with the Trainer that returned DWade to elite NBA status. 

All 2 games huh?!?!

Did you read what you typed before hitting the enter button?

[Rondo2287]

News is that Gilbert is in the best shape since he joined the Wizards.  Also in the games he did play last year he was effective netting double digit points and assists in both games.  Granted it is a very small sample, but there is no reason he cant be just as effective if not more effective when he comes back after a summer more of Rehab with the Trainer that returned DWade to elite NBA status. 

All 2 games huh?!?!

Did you read what you typed before hitting the enter button?

Ya i did, did you read, "Granted it is a very small sample," before posting a snyde remark?

[Rondo2287]

News is that Gilbert is in the best shape since he joined the Wizards.  Also in the games he did play last year he was effective netting double digit points and assists in both games.  Granted it is a very small sample, but there is no reason he cant be just as effective if not more effective when he comes back after a summer more of Rehab with the Trainer that returned DWade to elite NBA status. 

Do you regret picking a player that you have to do this much lobbying for yet?

Not really, I am starting regret participating in a league where members post in other threads how excited they are to have KG back to full strength and then when it detrimental to their teams that other teams have KG they say he is an injury risk. 

[KCattheStripe]

The Memphis Grizzlies would like to remind you that they have the 2nd best point guard in the NBA on their team. Also, stop hatin' on the Raptors.

[Kwhit10]

Yea we're excited to have the organization say he is back to full health, but I personally still don't know if that health translates to him performing on the court as we are used to seeing.  I for one hope so, but I'm not 100% sold he'll be totally the same.

[nickagneta]

News is that Gilbert is in the best shape since he joined the Wizards.  Also in the games he did play last year he was effective netting double digit points and assists in both games.  Granted it is a very small sample, but there is no reason he cant be just as effective if not more effective when he comes back after a summer more of Rehab with the Trainer that returned DWade to elite NBA status. 

All 2 games huh?!?!

Did you read what you typed before hitting the enter button?

Ya i did, did you read, "Granted it is a very small sample," before posting a snyde remark?

It's not snide and wasn't meant that way. It's just when you want to prove a point about his ability to come back and point to a two game stretch, that's comical. You're better off with the Grant Hill return argument or the reports from the trainers argument or that he is only 27 years old argument and had top 5 game before getting hurt at 25 years old argument.

Gilbert could be a heck of a pick. But don't you think that pointing to a two game stretch at the end of 2009 season as providing proof that he warrants a mid second round pick rather amusing.

Put it to you this way, if someone was trying to convince you of Marbury's ability to perform last year and pointed to a 2 games stretch he played in pre-season, you wouldn't find that comical?

[jgod213]

Dallas would like to announce that they have no intention of trading any of their 3 picks in the upcoming round, and are both excited and a little shocked at some of the players still left on the board.

Dallas will listen to offers but likely won't respond unless something really compelling/creative comes along.  No offense, it's just that the Dallas war-room will be pre-occupied with player scouting.

[Donoghus]

Denver sends:  8th rounder (3), 8th rounder (4),  10th rounder (4) and a 12th rounder (4)

Bucks sends: 5th rounder (5)

[StartOrien]

If anyone is looking for a couple late rounders, PM me. Very interested in moving up.

[nickagneta]

Once again the DC Boxers have interest in moving up into the late third round or early 4th round and will begin all proposals with my 5(3) pick with further considerations further in the draft.

[Rondo2287]

News is that Gilbert is in the best shape since he joined the Wizards.  Also in the games he did play last year he was effective netting double digit points and assists in both games.  Granted it is a very small sample, but there is no reason he cant be just as effective if not more effective when he comes back after a summer more of Rehab with the Trainer that returned DWade to elite NBA status. 

All 2 games huh?!?!

Did you read what you typed before hitting the enter button?

Ya i did, did you read, "Granted it is a very small sample," before posting a snyde remark?

It's not snide and wasn't meant that way. It's just when you want to prove a point about his ability to come back and point to a two game stretch, that's comical. You're better off with the Grant Hill return argument or the reports from the trainers argument or that he is only 27 years old argument and had top 5 game before getting hurt at 25 years old argument.

Gilbert could be a heck of a pick. But don't you think that pointing to a two game stretch at the end of 2009 season as providing proof that he warrants a mid second round pick rather amusing.

Put it to you this way, if someone was trying to convince you of Marbury's ability to perform last year and pointed to a 2 games stretch he played in pre-season, you wouldn't find that comical?

Of course it was meant to be a snyde comment and thats fine, you dont have to back off just because I called you on it, stick with your guns.  And Preseason is different than regular season and your logic on the Marbury comparison is comical.  You say, "Arenas could be a heck of a pick," which is because you concerns are injury.  Whereas Marbury just has not been performing well in perfect health.  There is no reason to believe he will improve.  

I have "Real News," which the rules stat should be provided for a player to be given consideration that Arenas is in the best shape he has been in 5 years.  And if he played well in two games last year, what logic would you use to say, since your main concern is health, that after another 5 months of rehab with a respected trainer he wont be even better.  

[Kwhit10]

Nobody was saying that Gilbert shouldn't be considered because he was injured. Plus I believe that part of the rules is in regards to players that play in Europe regarding returning to the NBA.