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Re: Sports Center: Rasheed Update
« Reply #45 on: July 03, 2009, 09:34:27 AM »

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These are some interesting points, but in my mind there is a bit of a * involved because Wallace is being defended by starters and boxed out on the boards by centers, while McDyess is up against the backups.  Doesn't that excite you to think about what Wallace could do to other team's second units!

Because starters always play against starters and backups always against backups? Doesn`t work that way. And no, I´m not excited about the possibilities, simply because there are no possibilities if a player has lost his legs.
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Re: Sports Center: Rasheed Update
« Reply #46 on: July 03, 2009, 09:41:22 AM »

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These are some interesting points, but in my mind there is a bit of a * involved because Wallace is being defended by starters and boxed out on the boards by centers, while McDyess is up against the backups.  Doesn't that excite you to think about what Wallace could do to other team's second units!

Because starters always play against starters and backups always against backups? Doesn`t work that way. And no, I´m not excited about the possibilities, simply because there are no possibilities if a player has lost his legs.
It all depends on what we need Sheed for. If it's for slightly larger than PJ Brown minutes, primary backup big for 20 minutes a game. I think it'd work out. If we need him to play 30 minutes I'll be worried.

Re: Sports Center: Rasheed Update
« Reply #47 on: July 03, 2009, 09:43:19 AM »

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am I the only one who thinks Antonio McDyess is a better fit for Boston? furthermore, he might not eat up the whole MLE.
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Re: Sports Center: Rasheed Update
« Reply #48 on: July 03, 2009, 09:48:29 AM »

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can mcdyess play both the 4 and 5? no...can mcdyess step out and hit the 3? no....will mcdyess also ask for the MLE?....yes..how is mcdyess a better fit? i mean i will take him if it comes to that but sheed really helps the c's keep up with other teams...mcdyess is a nice guy and an upgrade on the bench but they will need a big with him to back up perk..as well as a PG , wing

Re: Sports Center: Rasheed Update
« Reply #49 on: July 03, 2009, 09:55:50 AM »

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These are some interesting points, but in my mind there is a bit of a * involved because Wallace is being defended by starters and boxed out on the boards by centers, while McDyess is up against the backups.  Doesn't that excite you to think about what Wallace could do to other team's second units!

Because starters always play against starters and backups always against backups? Doesn`t work that way. And no, I´m not excited about the possibilities, simply because there are no possibilities if a player has lost his legs.
It all depends on what we need Sheed for. If it's for slightly larger than PJ Brown minutes, primary backup big for 20 minutes a game. I think it'd work out. If we need him to play 30 minutes I'll be worried.

Our team as it is is pretty old. We need a bench we can trust, not a lot of "low risk, high reward" players, or this is last season all over again...and Sheed isn´t even "low risk, high reward". He´s more like "full MLE risk, might still be good enough reward"

can mcdyess play both the 4 and 5? no...can mcdyess step out and hit the 3? no....will mcdyess also ask for the MLE?....yes..how is mcdyess a better fit? i mean i will take him if it comes to that but sheed really helps the c's keep up with other teams...mcdyess is a nice guy and an upgrade on the bench but they will need a big with him to back up perk..as well as a PG , wing

What is it with this 4/5 BS? Sheed has lost his legs, he can´t play the 4 anymore, he would be our backup 5, And Baby can play the 4 and 5. If you don´t trust Baby, fine, but I do. With a good bench around him, with a guy like McDyess at the 4, he would definitly be a net-plus at that position.
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Re: Sports Center: Rasheed Update
« Reply #50 on: July 03, 2009, 01:25:13 PM »

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These are some interesting points, but in my mind there is a bit of a * involved because Wallace is being defended by starters and boxed out on the boards by centers, while McDyess is up against the backups.  Doesn't that excite you to think about what Wallace could do to other team's second units!

Because starters always play against starters and backups always against backups? Doesn`t work that way. And no, I´m not excited about the possibilities, simply because there are no possibilities if a player has lost his legs.
It all depends on what we need Sheed for. If it's for slightly larger than PJ Brown minutes, primary backup big for 20 minutes a game. I think it'd work out. If we need him to play 30 minutes I'll be worried.

Our team as it is is pretty old. We need a bench we can trust, not a lot of "low risk, high reward" players, or this is last season all over again...and Sheed isn´t even "low risk, high reward". He´s more like "full MLE risk, might still be good enough reward"

can mcdyess play both the 4 and 5? no...can mcdyess step out and hit the 3? no....will mcdyess also ask for the MLE?....yes..how is mcdyess a better fit? i mean i will take him if it comes to that but sheed really helps the c's keep up with other teams...mcdyess is a nice guy and an upgrade on the bench but they will need a big with him to back up perk..as well as a PG , wing

What is it with this 4/5 BS? Sheed has lost his legs, he can´t play the 4 anymore, he would be our backup 5, And Baby can play the 4 and 5. If you don´t trust Baby, fine, but I do. With a good bench around him, with a guy like McDyess at the 4, he would definitly be a net-plus at that position.

Look, 5 is the hardest position to fill, Sheed can defend that position very well and rebound there passably, while adding 3pt shooting.  And as bad as Sheed is as a 4, he's still an upgrade over Baby there.   Baby can't rebound, plays mediocre defense and delivers extremely inconsistent offensive production.  Sheed's probably the worse pnr defender at this point, but he's better at everything else.

Baby is useful for his versatility and desirable for his potential (his 6-steal, 6-assist game in the playoffs was a lot of fun to watch), but at this point he's a lot like Scal: he can approximate a starter's role in the Celtics' gameplan but offers nowhere near the production.  Sheed can do a much better imitation of Perk and add some of Posey's floorspacing to boot.

Dice can do a great job at the 4, but we'd still be depending heavily on Baby at the 5.  Given our needs, a good 5/passable back-up 4 is more useful than a great 4 because the former option would allow us to push out below-average contributors like Baby and Scal from the playoff rotation while the latter would leave us dependent on them.
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