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Re: Sports Center: Rasheed Update
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2009, 10:53:17 PM »

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Sheed is looking for 3 years according to reports.  Danny offered 2.  I have a feeling it is going to be Posey all over again. All the Spurs or Cavs have to do is give him that extra year and the Celtics will miss out on getting him.

OMG! Give him the 3rd year!  Jeez! You can always trade him as an expiring.  If Ainge lets him get away over one year.... >:(
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Re: Sports Center: Rasheed Update
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2009, 10:53:32 PM »

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Sheed is looking for 3 years according to reports.  Danny offered 2.  I have a feeling it is going to be Posey all over again. All the Spurs or Cavs have to do is give him that extra year and the Celtics will miss out on getting him.

You could be right about it being Posey all over again. But what I am thinking why they only gave him 2 years so they can use it on Paul Pierce or KG when they are up. but who knows. I would give him the 3rd year in a  to sec if he awnsers YES right away.

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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2009, 10:54:30 PM »

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I say Danny offers the 3rd year and wraps up the deal. We're talking mid-level money, not 10 mm plus per.  Just do it, Danny. We have a 2-3 year window, bro. Get it done.

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« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2009, 10:56:23 PM »

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Sheed is looking for 3 years according to reports.  Danny offered 2.  I have a feeling it is going to be Posey all over again. All the Spurs or Cavs have to do is give him that extra year and the Celtics will miss out on getting him.
That's why they call it negotiations. He may get the 3 years, maybe even from us, or he may not. I frankly would not want to give him more than 2 yrs, but it's more a matter of what the market will bear than anything else.

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« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2009, 10:56:41 PM »

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OMG! Give him the 3rd year!  Jeez! You can always trade him as an expiring.  If Ainge lets him get away over one year.... >:(

Exactly.  If that is the sticking point then Wyc needs to tell Danny to go the extra year. We need to get this done.

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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2009, 10:56:48 PM »

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The good news is that if the Spurs land Rasheed, the Lakers won't win next year.

Re: Sports Center: Rasheed Update
« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2009, 10:57:56 PM »

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Get it done.  Surely they can come up with a scenerio for what to do with him down the road if they need to move him.

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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2009, 10:58:21 PM »

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The good news is that if the Spurs land Rasheed, the Lakers won't win next year.

The bad news is....neither will we!
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Re: Sports Center: Rasheed Update
« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2009, 10:59:17 PM »

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The good news is that if the Spurs land Rasheed, the Lakers won't win next year.

yeah...and neither will the celtics....not too many worth while bigs out there that really can help

Re: Sports Center: Rasheed Update
« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2009, 10:59:47 PM »

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am I the only one who thinks Antonio McDyess is a better fit for Boston? furthermore, he might not eat up the whole MLE.

I'm still fighting the good fight with you Potapenko.  I'd rather see McDyess, and I've been saying so all along.  But to be honest with you, if it's true that KG and Doc and crew are making a personal visit with Rasheed to recruit him (and not McDyess), I think I'm ready to divert to their opinion on the matter.

Everybody do do do do do do need a Sheed! (sorry, watched the Lorax with my daughters the other night)

2 things -

McDyess is staying in Detroit no matter what (all sources say) so even if he's a better fit - it's moot.



all sources? I just watched Chris Mannix say that between the Cs and the Spurs, the team that loses out on Sheed is in the lead to land Dice...

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« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2009, 11:05:24 PM »

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dice?? i thought he was locked into detroit

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« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2009, 11:06:36 PM »

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am I the only one who thinks Antonio McDyess is a better fit for Boston? furthermore, he might not eat up the whole MLE.

I'm still fighting the good fight with you Potapenko.  I'd rather see McDyess, and I've been saying so all along.  But to be honest with you, if it's true that KG and Doc and crew are making a personal visit with Rasheed to recruit him (and not McDyess), I think I'm ready to divert to their opinion on the matter.

Everybody do do do do do do need a Sheed! (sorry, watched the Lorax with my daughters the other night)

2 things -

McDyess is staying in Detroit no matter what (all sources say) so even if he's a better fit - it's moot.



all sources? I just watched Chris Mannix say that between the Cs and the Spurs, the team that loses out on Sheed is in the lead to land Dice...

 I saw that also. but I want SHEED NO DICE JUST SHEED

Re: Sports Center: Rasheed Update
« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2009, 11:12:27 PM »

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i prefer sheed first..marion second and mcdyess third...they HAVE to get one of those three plus a legit wing...no scrubs like POB and tony allen

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« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2009, 11:23:41 PM »

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am I the only one who thinks Antonio McDyess is a better fit for Boston? furthermore, he might not eat up the whole MLE.
Sheed is a much better player.
I think Antonio McDyess is the better player, and by a large margin too.

I dunno.  I thought I saw Sheed play better post defense, and he isn't afraid to take important shots.  I like McDyess, but he has less range than Wallace, too.  Why do you think he's better?
Bah ... lost my first post. Try, try, try again.

Antonio McDyess is a vastly superior rebounder. He yanked down 9.8 rebounds in 30 minutes, while Sheed got only 7.4 in 32 minutes.

Antonio McDyess is the better all-round defender. Wallace is a better interior defender, but he's a liability on the perimeter ... because he's losing his legs and no longer has the mobility required to defend players away from the hoop ... McDyess was the Pistons best pick and roll defender (a staple of the C's defense), while Wallace was the Pistons worst. The biggest reason for the Pistons decline defensively last season, was the decline in Wallace's defense.

Dice got 10 points per game in 30 minutes for Detroit. Sheed got 12 in 32 minutes. Neither was all that efficient, a slight edge for McDyess in efficiency. Not much of a difference here, nothing to write home about. Both are good passers, Sheed being the better of the two.

Rasheed Wallace is declining physically at a frightening pace, while McDyess just posted his best season in five or six years. That fills me with more confidence in McDyess' ability to post a good season next year, versus Sheed, and in future seasons.

Bottom line -- McDyess was the Pistons best player last season. Wallace wasn't, he was one of the main reasons why Detroit suffered, he's aging and declining quickly.

Re: Sports Center: Rasheed Update
« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2009, 11:23:54 PM »

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IMO, Danny's overly conservative offer of 2 years might cost us.  I see no reason to not offer 3 and play it out with this group UNTIL Kevin is a FA.