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Quote from: KCattheStripe on June 24, 2009, 05:52:23 PMQuote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 05:48:36 PMQuote from: KCattheStripe on June 24, 2009, 05:33:09 PMQuote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 05:08:26 PMQuote from: KCattheStripe on June 24, 2009, 04:13:49 PMQuote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 03:35:44 PMQuote from: KCattheStripe on June 24, 2009, 03:09:21 PMQuote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 02:57:27 PMQuote from: BASS_THUMPER on June 24, 2009, 02:49:13 PMc. none of the aboveat that time walker was at his prime, one of my fav C'si think walker and pierce was the one the top 5 one two punches of all time.thats allTop 5 really?Bird/McHaleGarnett/PierceJordan/PippenKobe/GasolDuncan/RobinsonShaq/KobeMagic/KareemCousy/RussellHondo/RussellHondo/CowensThose are just the ones I could think off quickly, and they are all better 1/2 combos than Pierce/Walker.I'd buy All-Time Celtics 1/2I can't even buy that. Pierce/Garnett are better and then you can add in any number of player combinations with Russell/Bird/Hondo and you'd easily get five one two combos that were better and probably won titles.Yeah, but they weren't 1/2 combos by themselves. they were 1/2/3/4/5 combos.Pierce and Walker had 3 other guys on the court with them too. The combined talent of all the combinations I mentioned just taking the top two players and ignoring the team are still better than Walker/Pierce.My point is that6 a 1/2 combination means that their are no other potent weapons in the starting 5. Those other teams had equally potent weapons in the starting 5. I'm afraid you'd have to point me to where the term 1/2 combination excludes having a quality team around you.Jordan/Pippen and Kobe/Shaq are the classic 1/2 punches since the 90s right? Both pairs had [dang] good teams around them.The drop off in talent from MJ/ Scottie to Horace grant in huge. 1/2 punch should be All-Stars surrounded by Role players. In Russell's case, Sam Jones, Tommy Heihnson and bob Cousy are not Role Players. Neither were DJ, Cornbread and Parrish.I just don't see why 1/2 punch would imply anything about the rest of the team.Even narrowing that criteria I don't see Pierce/Walker cracking the top 5.Jordan/Pippen Kobe/Shaq, Stockton/Malone, Barkley/Johnson, Duncan/RobinsonThose are just from my lifetime of watching basketball. If you went to the 80s and farther you could find more.
Quote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 05:48:36 PMQuote from: KCattheStripe on June 24, 2009, 05:33:09 PMQuote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 05:08:26 PMQuote from: KCattheStripe on June 24, 2009, 04:13:49 PMQuote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 03:35:44 PMQuote from: KCattheStripe on June 24, 2009, 03:09:21 PMQuote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 02:57:27 PMQuote from: BASS_THUMPER on June 24, 2009, 02:49:13 PMc. none of the aboveat that time walker was at his prime, one of my fav C'si think walker and pierce was the one the top 5 one two punches of all time.thats allTop 5 really?Bird/McHaleGarnett/PierceJordan/PippenKobe/GasolDuncan/RobinsonShaq/KobeMagic/KareemCousy/RussellHondo/RussellHondo/CowensThose are just the ones I could think off quickly, and they are all better 1/2 combos than Pierce/Walker.I'd buy All-Time Celtics 1/2I can't even buy that. Pierce/Garnett are better and then you can add in any number of player combinations with Russell/Bird/Hondo and you'd easily get five one two combos that were better and probably won titles.Yeah, but they weren't 1/2 combos by themselves. they were 1/2/3/4/5 combos.Pierce and Walker had 3 other guys on the court with them too. The combined talent of all the combinations I mentioned just taking the top two players and ignoring the team are still better than Walker/Pierce.My point is that6 a 1/2 combination means that their are no other potent weapons in the starting 5. Those other teams had equally potent weapons in the starting 5. I'm afraid you'd have to point me to where the term 1/2 combination excludes having a quality team around you.Jordan/Pippen and Kobe/Shaq are the classic 1/2 punches since the 90s right? Both pairs had [dang] good teams around them.The drop off in talent from MJ/ Scottie to Horace grant in huge. 1/2 punch should be All-Stars surrounded by Role players. In Russell's case, Sam Jones, Tommy Heihnson and bob Cousy are not Role Players. Neither were DJ, Cornbread and Parrish.
Quote from: KCattheStripe on June 24, 2009, 05:33:09 PMQuote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 05:08:26 PMQuote from: KCattheStripe on June 24, 2009, 04:13:49 PMQuote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 03:35:44 PMQuote from: KCattheStripe on June 24, 2009, 03:09:21 PMQuote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 02:57:27 PMQuote from: BASS_THUMPER on June 24, 2009, 02:49:13 PMc. none of the aboveat that time walker was at his prime, one of my fav C'si think walker and pierce was the one the top 5 one two punches of all time.thats allTop 5 really?Bird/McHaleGarnett/PierceJordan/PippenKobe/GasolDuncan/RobinsonShaq/KobeMagic/KareemCousy/RussellHondo/RussellHondo/CowensThose are just the ones I could think off quickly, and they are all better 1/2 combos than Pierce/Walker.I'd buy All-Time Celtics 1/2I can't even buy that. Pierce/Garnett are better and then you can add in any number of player combinations with Russell/Bird/Hondo and you'd easily get five one two combos that were better and probably won titles.Yeah, but they weren't 1/2 combos by themselves. they were 1/2/3/4/5 combos.Pierce and Walker had 3 other guys on the court with them too. The combined talent of all the combinations I mentioned just taking the top two players and ignoring the team are still better than Walker/Pierce.My point is that6 a 1/2 combination means that their are no other potent weapons in the starting 5. Those other teams had equally potent weapons in the starting 5. I'm afraid you'd have to point me to where the term 1/2 combination excludes having a quality team around you.Jordan/Pippen and Kobe/Shaq are the classic 1/2 punches since the 90s right? Both pairs had [dang] good teams around them.
Quote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 05:08:26 PMQuote from: KCattheStripe on June 24, 2009, 04:13:49 PMQuote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 03:35:44 PMQuote from: KCattheStripe on June 24, 2009, 03:09:21 PMQuote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 02:57:27 PMQuote from: BASS_THUMPER on June 24, 2009, 02:49:13 PMc. none of the aboveat that time walker was at his prime, one of my fav C'si think walker and pierce was the one the top 5 one two punches of all time.thats allTop 5 really?Bird/McHaleGarnett/PierceJordan/PippenKobe/GasolDuncan/RobinsonShaq/KobeMagic/KareemCousy/RussellHondo/RussellHondo/CowensThose are just the ones I could think off quickly, and they are all better 1/2 combos than Pierce/Walker.I'd buy All-Time Celtics 1/2I can't even buy that. Pierce/Garnett are better and then you can add in any number of player combinations with Russell/Bird/Hondo and you'd easily get five one two combos that were better and probably won titles.Yeah, but they weren't 1/2 combos by themselves. they were 1/2/3/4/5 combos.Pierce and Walker had 3 other guys on the court with them too. The combined talent of all the combinations I mentioned just taking the top two players and ignoring the team are still better than Walker/Pierce.My point is that6 a 1/2 combination means that their are no other potent weapons in the starting 5. Those other teams had equally potent weapons in the starting 5.
Quote from: KCattheStripe on June 24, 2009, 04:13:49 PMQuote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 03:35:44 PMQuote from: KCattheStripe on June 24, 2009, 03:09:21 PMQuote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 02:57:27 PMQuote from: BASS_THUMPER on June 24, 2009, 02:49:13 PMc. none of the aboveat that time walker was at his prime, one of my fav C'si think walker and pierce was the one the top 5 one two punches of all time.thats allTop 5 really?Bird/McHaleGarnett/PierceJordan/PippenKobe/GasolDuncan/RobinsonShaq/KobeMagic/KareemCousy/RussellHondo/RussellHondo/CowensThose are just the ones I could think off quickly, and they are all better 1/2 combos than Pierce/Walker.I'd buy All-Time Celtics 1/2I can't even buy that. Pierce/Garnett are better and then you can add in any number of player combinations with Russell/Bird/Hondo and you'd easily get five one two combos that were better and probably won titles.Yeah, but they weren't 1/2 combos by themselves. they were 1/2/3/4/5 combos.Pierce and Walker had 3 other guys on the court with them too. The combined talent of all the combinations I mentioned just taking the top two players and ignoring the team are still better than Walker/Pierce.
Quote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 03:35:44 PMQuote from: KCattheStripe on June 24, 2009, 03:09:21 PMQuote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 02:57:27 PMQuote from: BASS_THUMPER on June 24, 2009, 02:49:13 PMc. none of the aboveat that time walker was at his prime, one of my fav C'si think walker and pierce was the one the top 5 one two punches of all time.thats allTop 5 really?Bird/McHaleGarnett/PierceJordan/PippenKobe/GasolDuncan/RobinsonShaq/KobeMagic/KareemCousy/RussellHondo/RussellHondo/CowensThose are just the ones I could think off quickly, and they are all better 1/2 combos than Pierce/Walker.I'd buy All-Time Celtics 1/2I can't even buy that. Pierce/Garnett are better and then you can add in any number of player combinations with Russell/Bird/Hondo and you'd easily get five one two combos that were better and probably won titles.Yeah, but they weren't 1/2 combos by themselves. they were 1/2/3/4/5 combos.
Quote from: KCattheStripe on June 24, 2009, 03:09:21 PMQuote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 02:57:27 PMQuote from: BASS_THUMPER on June 24, 2009, 02:49:13 PMc. none of the aboveat that time walker was at his prime, one of my fav C'si think walker and pierce was the one the top 5 one two punches of all time.thats allTop 5 really?Bird/McHaleGarnett/PierceJordan/PippenKobe/GasolDuncan/RobinsonShaq/KobeMagic/KareemCousy/RussellHondo/RussellHondo/CowensThose are just the ones I could think off quickly, and they are all better 1/2 combos than Pierce/Walker.I'd buy All-Time Celtics 1/2I can't even buy that. Pierce/Garnett are better and then you can add in any number of player combinations with Russell/Bird/Hondo and you'd easily get five one two combos that were better and probably won titles.
Quote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 02:57:27 PMQuote from: BASS_THUMPER on June 24, 2009, 02:49:13 PMc. none of the aboveat that time walker was at his prime, one of my fav C'si think walker and pierce was the one the top 5 one two punches of all time.thats allTop 5 really?Bird/McHaleGarnett/PierceJordan/PippenKobe/GasolDuncan/RobinsonShaq/KobeMagic/KareemCousy/RussellHondo/RussellHondo/CowensThose are just the ones I could think off quickly, and they are all better 1/2 combos than Pierce/Walker.I'd buy All-Time Celtics 1/2
Quote from: BASS_THUMPER on June 24, 2009, 02:49:13 PMc. none of the aboveat that time walker was at his prime, one of my fav C'si think walker and pierce was the one the top 5 one two punches of all time.thats allTop 5 really?Bird/McHaleGarnett/PierceJordan/PippenKobe/GasolDuncan/RobinsonShaq/KobeMagic/KareemCousy/RussellHondo/RussellHondo/CowensThose are just the ones I could think off quickly, and they are all better 1/2 combos than Pierce/Walker.
c. none of the aboveat that time walker was at his prime, one of my fav C'si think walker and pierce was the one the top 5 one two punches of all time.thats all
Quote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 06:03:16 PMQuote from: KCattheStripe on June 24, 2009, 05:52:23 PMQuote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 05:48:36 PMQuote from: KCattheStripe on June 24, 2009, 05:33:09 PMQuote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 05:08:26 PMQuote from: KCattheStripe on June 24, 2009, 04:13:49 PMQuote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 03:35:44 PMQuote from: KCattheStripe on June 24, 2009, 03:09:21 PMQuote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 02:57:27 PMQuote from: BASS_THUMPER on June 24, 2009, 02:49:13 PMc. none of the aboveat that time walker was at his prime, one of my fav C'si think walker and pierce was the one the top 5 one two punches of all time.thats allTop 5 really?Bird/McHaleGarnett/PierceJordan/PippenKobe/GasolDuncan/RobinsonShaq/KobeMagic/KareemCousy/RussellHondo/RussellHondo/CowensThose are just the ones I could think off quickly, and they are all better 1/2 combos than Pierce/Walker.I'd buy All-Time Celtics 1/2I can't even buy that. Pierce/Garnett are better and then you can add in any number of player combinations with Russell/Bird/Hondo and you'd easily get five one two combos that were better and probably won titles.Yeah, but they weren't 1/2 combos by themselves. they were 1/2/3/4/5 combos.Pierce and Walker had 3 other guys on the court with them too. The combined talent of all the combinations I mentioned just taking the top two players and ignoring the team are still better than Walker/Pierce.My point is that6 a 1/2 combination means that their are no other potent weapons in the starting 5. Those other teams had equally potent weapons in the starting 5. I'm afraid you'd have to point me to where the term 1/2 combination excludes having a quality team around you.Jordan/Pippen and Kobe/Shaq are the classic 1/2 punches since the 90s right? Both pairs had [dang] good teams around them.The drop off in talent from MJ/ Scottie to Horace grant in huge. 1/2 punch should be All-Stars surrounded by Role players. In Russell's case, Sam Jones, Tommy Heihnson and bob Cousy are not Role Players. Neither were DJ, Cornbread and Parrish.I just don't see why 1/2 punch would imply anything about the rest of the team.Even narrowing that criteria I don't see Pierce/Walker cracking the top 5.Jordan/Pippen Kobe/Shaq, Stockton/Malone, Barkley/Johnson, Duncan/RobinsonThose are just from my lifetime of watching basketball. If you went to the 80s and farther you could find more.I agree, thats why I said I could see it being in the CELTICS top 5.
Quote from: KCattheStripe on June 24, 2009, 06:07:46 PMQuote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 06:03:16 PMQuote from: KCattheStripe on June 24, 2009, 05:52:23 PMQuote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 05:48:36 PMQuote from: KCattheStripe on June 24, 2009, 05:33:09 PMQuote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 05:08:26 PMQuote from: KCattheStripe on June 24, 2009, 04:13:49 PMQuote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 03:35:44 PMQuote from: KCattheStripe on June 24, 2009, 03:09:21 PMQuote from: Fafnir on June 24, 2009, 02:57:27 PMQuote from: BASS_THUMPER on June 24, 2009, 02:49:13 PMc. none of the aboveat that time walker was at his prime, one of my fav C'si think walker and pierce was the one the top 5 one two punches of all time.thats allTop 5 really?Bird/McHaleGarnett/PierceJordan/PippenKobe/GasolDuncan/RobinsonShaq/KobeMagic/KareemCousy/RussellHondo/RussellHondo/CowensThose are just the ones I could think off quickly, and they are all better 1/2 combos than Pierce/Walker.I'd buy All-Time Celtics 1/2I can't even buy that. Pierce/Garnett are better and then you can add in any number of player combinations with Russell/Bird/Hondo and you'd easily get five one two combos that were better and probably won titles.Yeah, but they weren't 1/2 combos by themselves. they were 1/2/3/4/5 combos.Pierce and Walker had 3 other guys on the court with them too. The combined talent of all the combinations I mentioned just taking the top two players and ignoring the team are still better than Walker/Pierce.My point is that6 a 1/2 combination means that their are no other potent weapons in the starting 5. Those other teams had equally potent weapons in the starting 5. I'm afraid you'd have to point me to where the term 1/2 combination excludes having a quality team around you.Jordan/Pippen and Kobe/Shaq are the classic 1/2 punches since the 90s right? Both pairs had [dang] good teams around them.The drop off in talent from MJ/ Scottie to Horace grant in huge. 1/2 punch should be All-Stars surrounded by Role players. In Russell's case, Sam Jones, Tommy Heihnson and bob Cousy are not Role Players. Neither were DJ, Cornbread and Parrish.I just don't see why 1/2 punch would imply anything about the rest of the team.Even narrowing that criteria I don't see Pierce/Walker cracking the top 5.Jordan/Pippen Kobe/Shaq, Stockton/Malone, Barkley/Johnson, Duncan/RobinsonThose are just from my lifetime of watching basketball. If you went to the 80s and farther you could find more.I agree, thats why I said I could see it being in the CELTICS top 5.But your narrow definition precludes even 5 qualifiers. Unless you're putting up the garbage 90s teams the C's have had too many quality teams to have enough 1/2 punches. That is why I find your definitions of 1/2 and "drop-off to role player" silly.No team with Russell would qualify according to you, no team with Bird, and probably not in the 70s if you were pushed on it. So you're left with Pierce/Walker and the Dino/*insert scrub* or maybe Dee Brown/*scrub*
we all have our top 5i liked walker/pierce combo the most cause i am a celtics fan firstthe moses malone/dr j combobass favorites...mine
nawat that time new jeresy was tight very tuff for useven the greatest one two punch ever, walker/pirece couldnt handle new jersey...and rodney rogers, a former c, lite us up too
role playsbattie our center had knee problems and our 3pt shooter off the bench walter was working on his singing carrer...no focuswalker a pierce where alone