Well Scratch Trading with Washington (Foye, Miller traded for #5)

[johnnyrondo]

I was just reading the ESPN report and Andy Katz is saying that Minny would not package the #5 and #6 to move up to get #2.

that doesn't make any sense to me. Who are they going to get #5 that is a better prospect than Foye and definitely wouldn't be there at #6?

I'm assuming they're going to hope that one of Rubio or Thabeet slips, and then maybe Evans or Flynn?

that seems like a huge gamble. I don't see either of those guys slipping.

No way Rubio gets past SAC.

If Rubio goes second as most think, SAC could trade out to someone wanting Curry (ie NKY), but that would be the only way Thabeet would get to #5 IMO.

best guess is that both those guys are gone by Minny's picks.

then they would have traded Foye to get Flynn...that doesn't make much sense to me.

Minny can always trade #5 to NY for the #8 and something good. That "something good" + the #8 will be better than Foye. I'm not that big a fan of Foye. He's not a pg. Is he a great 2 guard?

[Fafnir]

I was just reading the ESPN report and Andy Katz is saying that Minny would not package the #5 and #6 to move up to get #2.

that doesn't make any sense to me. Who are they going to get #5 that is a better prospect than Foye and definitely wouldn't be there at #6?

I'm assuming they're going to hope that one of Rubio or Thabeet slips, and then maybe Evans or Flynn?

that seems like a huge gamble. I don't see either of those guys slipping.

No way Rubio gets past SAC.

If Rubio goes second as most think, SAC could trade out to someone wanting Curry (ie NKY), but that would be the only way Thabeet would get to #5 IMO.

best guess is that both those guys are gone by Minny's picks.

then they would have traded Foye to get Flynn...that doesn't make much sense to me.

Minny can always trade #5 to NY for the #8 and something good. That "something good" + the #8 will be better than Foye. I'm not that big a fan of Foye. He's not a pg. Is he a great 2 guard?

I think this is a good deal for Minnesota and Wizards. Makes sense for both parties overall, not sure what Minnesota is planning if it really just keeps the 5th and 6th picks. We'll have to see.

[winsomme]

I was just reading the ESPN report and Andy Katz is saying that Minny would not package the #5 and #6 to move up to get #2.

that doesn't make any sense to me. Who are they going to get #5 that is a better prospect than Foye and definitely wouldn't be there at #6?

I'm assuming they're going to hope that one of Rubio or Thabeet slips, and then maybe Evans or Flynn?

that seems like a huge gamble. I don't see either of those guys slipping.

No way Rubio gets past SAC.

If Rubio goes second as most think, SAC could trade out to someone wanting Curry (ie NKY), but that would be the only way Thabeet would get to #5 IMO.

best guess is that both those guys are gone by Minny's picks.

then they would have traded Foye to get Flynn...that doesn't make much sense to me.

Minny can always trade #5 to NY for the #8 and something good. That "something good" + the #8 will be better than Foye. I'm not that big a fan of Foye. He's not a pg. Is he a great 2 guard?

I think this is a good deal for Minnesota and Wizards. Makes sense for both parties overall, not sure what Minnesota is planning if it really just keeps the 5th and 6th picks. We'll have to see.

but don't you think we have to see what they do in order to say whether it was good for Minny?

I don't know. I'm playing the scenarios out and i can't find too many good ones.

It would make sense to me to move up and get Rubio, but the other guys available at #5 seem no better to me than Foye.

maybe i just like Foye more than most....especially apparently Kahn...

[tyrone biggums]

Had to make my once every 4-5 month appearence to comment on this one. Always Always Always take proven NBA talent over prospects. Washington made a great trade today and will be dangerous for years to come. Once more they got rid of Ethan Thomas who is worth getting rid of 2 #1's with that horrid contract.

[Fafnir]

I was just reading the ESPN report and Andy Katz is saying that Minny would not package the #5 and #6 to move up to get #2.

that doesn't make any sense to me. Who are they going to get #5 that is a better prospect than Foye and definitely wouldn't be there at #6?

I'm assuming they're going to hope that one of Rubio or Thabeet slips, and then maybe Evans or Flynn?

that seems like a huge gamble. I don't see either of those guys slipping.

No way Rubio gets past SAC.

If Rubio goes second as most think, SAC could trade out to someone wanting Curry (ie NKY), but that would be the only way Thabeet would get to #5 IMO.

best guess is that both those guys are gone by Minny's picks.

then they would have traded Foye to get Flynn...that doesn't make much sense to me.

Minny can always trade #5 to NY for the #8 and something good. That "something good" + the #8 will be better than Foye. I'm not that big a fan of Foye. He's not a pg. Is he a great 2 guard?

I think this is a good deal for Minnesota and Wizards. Makes sense for both parties overall, not sure what Minnesota is planning if it really just keeps the 5th and 6th picks. We'll have to see.

but don't you think we have to see what they do in order to say whether it was good for Minny?

I don't know. I'm playing the scenarios out and i can't find too many good ones.

It would make sense to me to move up and get Rubio, but the other guys available at #5 seem no better to me than Foye.

maybe i just like Foye more than most....especially apparently Kahn...

I'm not a Foye fan myself, so I like the move. Of course you can say it might not work out, but if the Wolves want to retool getting rid of Miller/Foye and getting another high pick is a good way to try it.

The key to any "rebuilding" move is to hit with your picks. One of the reasons I think Danny is a very good GM, he hit on a lot of his middle round picks that we kept getting.

[Fafnir]

Had to make my once every 4-5 month appearence to comment on this one. Always Always Always take proven NBA talent over prospects. Washington made a great trade today and will be dangerous for years to come. Once more they got rid of Ethan Thomas who is worth getting rid of 2 #1's with that horrid contract.

I don't think Foye or Miller are talents that would necessarily push Washington into the elite of the NBA though. Still great move for Washington since they are trying to win now.

[GroverTheClover]

I'm surprised Minny gave up on Randy Foye so quickly. He was just starting show something. This move certainly beefs up Washington's backcourt. I don't think it's enough to push them into the Eastern elite though. I can see them fighting with the Hawks for the 4 spot. I think Minny should grab Flynn as their PG of the future.

[johnnyrondo]

So if you were Minny, would you trade the #5 to NY for the #8 and Chandler?  You could draft your back court of the future at #6 and #8 and have a front court of Chandler, Love, and Al. I'd still prefer to go for Rubio, but Katz is saying that's not happening.

[Fafnir]

So if you were Minny, would you trade the #5 to NY for the #8 and Chandler?  You could draft your back court of the future at #6 and #8 and have a front court of Chandler, Love, and Al. I'd still prefer to go for Rubio, but Katz is saying that's not happening.

Not sure I'd do it. Chandler is okay but nothing special. If you're trading for another high pick like this you need to have specific players targeted. If that player would be there at 8 sure, if not no.

[Tr1boy]

Foye was just starting to mature into the player everyone thought he could be and Minny trades him??

Washington got a steal with this pick imo. They weren't going to get anyone worthwhile with the 5th pick

[winsomme]

I was just reading the ESPN report and Andy Katz is saying that Minny would not package the #5 and #6 to move up to get #2.

that doesn't make any sense to me. Who are they going to get #5 that is a better prospect than Foye and definitely wouldn't be there at #6?

I'm assuming they're going to hope that one of Rubio or Thabeet slips, and then maybe Evans or Flynn?

that seems like a huge gamble. I don't see either of those guys slipping.

No way Rubio gets past SAC.

If Rubio goes second as most think, SAC could trade out to someone wanting Curry (ie NKY), but that would be the only way Thabeet would get to #5 IMO.

best guess is that both those guys are gone by Minny's picks.

then they would have traded Foye to get Flynn...that doesn't make much sense to me.

Minny can always trade #5 to NY for the #8 and something good. That "something good" + the #8 will be better than Foye. I'm not that big a fan of Foye. He's not a pg. Is he a great 2 guard?

I think this is a good deal for Minnesota and Wizards. Makes sense for both parties overall, not sure what Minnesota is planning if it really just keeps the 5th and 6th picks. We'll have to see.

but don't you think we have to see what they do in order to say whether it was good for Minny?

I don't know. I'm playing the scenarios out and i can't find too many good ones.

It would make sense to me to move up and get Rubio, but the other guys available at #5 seem no better to me than Foye.

maybe i just like Foye more than most....especially apparently Kahn...

I'm not a Foye fan myself, so I like the move. Of course you can say it might not work out, but if the Wolves want to retool getting rid of Miller/Foye and getting another high pick is a good way to try it.

The key to any "rebuilding" move is to hit with your picks. One of the reasons I think Danny is a very good GM, he hit on a lot of his middle round picks that we kept getting.

I hear what you're saying, but 6 picks in one draft (a draft that most see as weak) is just too many darts.

their team is still loaded with young guys, they need high caliber players at impact positions.

I don't know, I think Rubio is the move here for them. they'll still have two more first round picks left to land some Danny-type pickups....

I guess we'll find out pretty soon.

[greenwise]

I think the deal is quite poor for the Wolves. So apparently they may have rejected a much better offer from Boston for this...

Washington will be a solid team in the East next season, i like the trade for them. Miller is another shooter, and Foye is slowly developping.

I wonder what Danny might propose next... Will we hear Ray Allen trade rumours to Phoenix again?

[Rida]

Wolves draft Tyreke Evans and Stephon Curry. Or Rubio if he is still on the board.

Book it. I don't think they should trade up to the 2 spot a good player will fall to them

[JSD]

The Washington Wizards have acquired Minnesota Timberwolves Randy Foye and Mike Miller in exchange for Etan Thomas, Oleksiy Pecherov and Darius Songaila and the fifth overall pick in Thursday’s NBA draft, a league executive with knowledge of the deal told Yahoo! Sports.

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/60012/20090623/wizards_get_foye_and_miller_for_5th_pick/

[ManUp]

You'd think Mchale was still Gm with this type of move.

Great trade for the Wizards.