Rondo's workout regimen: "just working on my jump shot right now"

[ToppersBsktball10]

I hope Rondo means he is correcting his jumper: Get that elbow in, take some arch off that ball, and square up and follow through better. Is Ray Allen on this kid's team or what? In all seriousness, I hope he is working on his J all season long. But, more importantly, he should be working on his free throw shooting. Next year, he should be shooting no less than 75% at the charity stripe.

Could not agree more. Except I would add that cocking the ball back to his ear when he shoots is the biggest flaw in his shot fundamentally. It's extra motion that can cause error in his shot. He needs to go straight up instead of back then up.

TA does that too.

Exactly and tony is not a very good shooter. I don't think there is anyone who shoots in that motion who is a really good shooter.

Doesn't KG do it too?

Kg puts it behind his head not to the side. just about everyone else shots at or above their head mostly only big men like KG and Dirk shoot behind their head to the sides like 3rd grade mechanics for a jumpshot. I'm an 8th grader and I shot above my head lol Rondo needs to work on form and shot ALOT more than he said he does in this video

[Thruthelookingglass]

One thing that a lot of fans don't seem to get is that working on something doesn't guarantee results. Rondo has been working on his jumper for a while, and it is still erratic. It is misguided to assume that he isn't working hard enough on it.

Maybe he needs to go work on jumpers with BBD?  Davis sure came on strong with the jumper after some early struggles this season.

He is Rajon Rondo. He isn't Glen Davis.

You don't catch basketball skills like the flu. Shooting with BBD or without, working on his jumper doesn't mean that he will become even an average jump shooter for a guard.

Do people think Shaq hasn't tried to work on his free throws?

Hopefully Rondo can at least develop the ability to hit the open 3, like Kidd does. He might end up like Andre Miller though, who still can't shoot the 3 worth a lick.

I'm not sure I understand the point of this.  Rondo isn't Davis I understand and the whole flu thing is insulting.  Of course they are not the same and of course attempts at improvement don't always work.  But whatever Glen Davis did and whoever he did it with does seem to have resulted in some success.

More to the point of my misunderstanding, you say "working on his jumper doesn't mean he will become even an average jump shooter for a guard."  Well that's fine.  Should he just give up?  Then you say "Hopefully Rondo can at least develop the ability to hit the open 3."

Here's what I don't understand.  If Rondo doesn't bother working on his jumper because the work may not pay off, how is he supposed to develop it?  Accident?  Magic?  Aren't there mechanics that can be corrected or refined, preferred ranges found and nailed down?  Does NOT working on it make it MORE or LESS likely that his jump shot will improve?  But then again, I thought it was the flu so what do I know?

[SCBirdman]

Tell me Rondo doesn't sound like the Mack?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnubycPEIBw

Good point Roy. I hope Rondo is also working on his FT shooting. I woild wager not many starting PG's in the NBA shoot FT's as poorly as Rondo. No excuse not to shoot in the high 70's at worst. Should be in the 80's, not the 60's.

[snively]

I know that's what Doc told him to do.  As noted in the Herald:

A backup also won't be enough. Rondo, who tailed off at the end of the Orlando series, continued to have a major weakness exposed.

``What happened to Rajon came from the way (Orlando) played him,'' said Rivers. ``Orlando made him the player who had to beat them. They took away Ray and Paul and put it on (Rondo).

``The playoffs will always be the toughest part for Rondo, because they'll always put it on him to make shots. But he'll grow from it.''

From that, I'm assuming the team is really focusing on jump shooting with Rondo.

Good stuff. I was labelled a Rondo hater for saying the exact same thing.

A related note: Rondo is not comparable to Tony Parker in his evolution re: jump-shots. In his 3rd season, Parker took around 650 jumpers (40% eFG), including 200 triples. Rondo took 320 jumpers (37% eFG) and 48 triples. Very different games; teams were guarding Parked differently than they're guarding Rondo now.
 
I've said these many times already, but I believe that if Rondo becomes a passable shooter (for a guard), the Celtics would be the best offensive team in the league.

Answering the question from the OP, I don't know if it's enough. However, I think Rondo needs to work with a "jump-shot doctor", not by himself or with some random trainer.

What's your threshold for passable for a guard?  The 40 eFG% Parker shot in 05?

If Perk developed a reliable 15-footer (and we obtained a back-up big who could shoot AND rebound) and Rondo started hitting 3s at about 33% do you think this would unshackle the Celtics offense? 

I do, and I'm half-expecting it.  The other half feels the threat of Rondo and Perk stagnating or regressing and a failure to land a good big who can shoot.

[pengaloo]

There seems to be a lot of hope on this thread that Rondo can get his jump shot right. It's crazy how so much of our future lies in the jump shot of a 23 year old who never could shoot. I have my doubts about whether practice does indeed make perfect... But then again, he's only 23 (I think only Gabe and Bill Walker have him beat as youngest player on the team) so I'm hopeful that there's a lot of improvement left in him, jump shot included. I guess anything's possible!

[tenn_smoothie]

just shooting 100 jumpers a day is not going to help rondo.

he has to make structural changes in his shooting form to improve. assign an assistant to him or send rondo to a shooting guru this summer.

[WedmanIsMyHero]

Have they not done that?  Or why not just try to get him to go shoot with Ray Allen every day and make him take more shots than Ray in practice. . .

just shooting 100 jumpers a day is not going to help rondo.

he has to make structural changes in his shooting form to improve. assign an assistant to him or send rondo to a shooting guru this summer.

[Drucci]

Yeah, I think that Rondo's shooting mecanic is the problem, or maybe it's mental, sometimes I have the impression that he just thinks "I can't shoot" and so he misses, even when he is wide open.

Imagine how unstoppable our starting five would be if Rondo had a consistent jumpshot! I hope he really improves it this summer.

[vjcsmoke]

Rondo needs to work on his jumper AND his free throws.  Those are really his main weaknesses.  Developing a competent 15-18 foot jumper is not that hard.  We know he'll never be a 3 pt shooter, but he doesn't need to be with his speed and athleticism.  Getting that solid jumper will do wonders for taking Rondo's game to the next level.  Working on the free throw shooting is also important as he does draw a lot of fouls when he initially gets by his defender.

[BASS_THUMPER]

from the way yall talked about rondo during the playoffs yall would make one think he didnt have any weaknesses


he his human

of flesh and blood im made~human born to make mistakes

[KCattheStripe]

from the way yall talked about rondo during the playoffs yall would make one think he didnt have any weaknesses


he his human

of flesh and blood im made~human born to make mistakes

He's not human, he split his soul into seven parts so that he may achieve immortality. And by soul, I mean his jump shot.

[BASS_THUMPER]

from the way yall talked about rondo during the playoffs yall would make one think he didnt have any weaknesses


he his human

of flesh and blood im made~human born to make mistakes

He's not human, he split his soul into seven parts so that he may achieve immortality. And by soul, I mean his jump shot.

ohhhh....

oh yeah..i forgot


my bad!

[cordobes]

I know that's what Doc told him to do.  As noted in the Herald:

A backup also won't be enough. Rondo, who tailed off at the end of the Orlando series, continued to have a major weakness exposed.

``What happened to Rajon came from the way (Orlando) played him,'' said Rivers. ``Orlando made him the player who had to beat them. They took away Ray and Paul and put it on (Rondo).

``The playoffs will always be the toughest part for Rondo, because they'll always put it on him to make shots. But he'll grow from it.''

From that, I'm assuming the team is really focusing on jump shooting with Rondo.

Good stuff. I was labelled a Rondo hater for saying the exact same thing.

A related note: Rondo is not comparable to Tony Parker in his evolution re: jump-shots. In his 3rd season, Parker took around 650 jumpers (40% eFG), including 200 triples. Rondo took 320 jumpers (37% eFG) and 48 triples. Very different games; teams were guarding Parked differently than they're guarding Rondo now.
 
I've said these many times already, but I believe that if Rondo becomes a passable shooter (for a guard), the Celtics would be the best offensive team in the league.

Answering the question from the OP, I don't know if it's enough. However, I think Rondo needs to work with a "jump-shot doctor", not by himself or with some random trainer.

What's your threshold for passable for a guard?  The 40 eFG% Parker shot in 05?

If Perk developed a reliable 15-footer (and we obtained a back-up big who could shoot AND rebound) and Rondo started hitting 3s at about 33% do you think this would unshackle the Celtics offense? 

I do, and I'm half-expecting it.  The other half feels the threat of Rondo and Perk stagnating or regressing and a failure to land a good big who can shoot.

I think it's difficult to define an objective threshold a priori. 40%? Yeah, but in twice the shots, many of them contested.

I think we'll know when we see it. Once teams stop daring Rondo to beat them with wide-open 15 shoots and double everybody on the catch by sagging off of him.

[TerreHaute]

I think one of RR's greatest assets is his unconventional style of play. However, it is also one of the biggest liabilites to his team. I would love for RR to watch tons of tape with someone who is willing to honestly critique his game (and he is willing to listen to). If he can mentally grow to realize that fundamental PG play 60-65% of the time and unconventional play 35-40% of the time is better for this team, he will have a great summer.

By this I mean, he could get the same number of steals he does now if he picked his spots better (and let his guy in the lane less). He could keep the same number of assists by making the easy play more often (and reduce his turnovers).

He is very young, and I am not down on him. But, his teammates could use a conventional style more often to keep a rythmn (offensively and defensively). His improving his jump shot is only a part of his game that can help his team win.

[droopdog7]

Frankly, I think his jump shot is too developmental delayed for Rondo to ever be more than average at it.  That is, it all one had to do was practice, then almost anyone could become a great shooter.  But that simply is not the case.  For instance, I could dribble a ball everywhere for the next ten years yet, I don't think I have the hand eye coordination to get to the level of Rondo (for instance).  In other words, like every other skill, shooting is also based on inherent ability.  And for some reason, Rondo either did not develop it in time or he just never had it.

Shooting, in my opinion, will always be Rondo's achillis heel and the thing that will prevent him from ever being great.  But that's okay since I think he will be very good for a long time.