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Re: Rondo's workout regimen: "just working on my jump shot right now"
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2009, 02:22:21 PM »

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Rondo looks more like Lucius Best aka Frozone.




I dunno, he always looked like a Black Lord Voldemort to me.

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« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2009, 02:50:33 PM »

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There's a lot of harsh words for Rondo in this thread.

He's 23, averaged 17 10 10 for the playoffs and has an entire summer to step his game up even further.

You guys are being way to harsh on him. Its tough to improve a weak area of your game, and he improved this past season from the year before, so there's no reason to think he won't improve his J more this summer.

Its easy to tell someone to work out like a maniac. Its a lot harder to do it yourself, so ease up. 

I never have been harsh about Rondo's inability to hit the jumper as that is a skill/ability thing. Yes he needs to work on it and we are glad he is. I will however ALWAYS be critical of his inability to focus and put his best effort out on the court every night. That is about "want to" versus ability. Showing up barely before tip off... eating spicy food in the locker room right before the game... taking games off... That is stuff that shouldn't be the case with a professional with so much upside.

Think about Bird in the gym before anyone else. Him running around the upper levels of the garden hours before games and practices. THAT is the level of heart and dedication I expect from a guy who wants to put on Celtic Green. If Rondo is unable to put that kind of effort out there then he will always be criticized, and will always be less than he could be.

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« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2009, 02:53:51 PM »

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One thing that a lot of fans don't seem to get is that working on something doesn't guarantee results. Rondo has been working on his jumper for a while, and it is still erratic. It is misguided to assume that he isn't working hard enough on it.

Maybe he needs to go work on jumpers with BBD?  Davis sure came on strong with the jumper after some early struggles this season.

  They both struggled early in the season on their jumpers, and Rondo finished the regular season hitting a better percentage of his jump shots than Davis. I haven't seen any stats from the playoffs.

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« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2009, 03:03:32 PM »

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There's a lot of harsh words for Rondo in this thread.

He's 23, averaged 17 10 10 for the playoffs and has an entire summer to step his game up even further.

You guys are being way to harsh on him. Its tough to improve a weak area of your game, and he improved this past season from the year before, so there's no reason to think he won't improve his J more this summer.

Its easy to tell someone to work out like a maniac. Its a lot harder to do it yourself, so ease up. 

I never have been harsh about Rondo's inability to hit the jumper as that is a skill/ability thing. Yes he needs to work on it and we are glad he is. I will however ALWAYS be critical of his inability to focus and put his best effort out on the court every night. That is about "want to" versus ability. Showing up barely before tip off... eating spicy food in the locker room right before the game... taking games off... That is stuff that shouldn't be the case with a professional with so much upside.

Think about Bird in the gym before anyone else. Him running around the upper levels of the garden hours before games and practices. THAT is the level of heart and dedication I expect from a guy who wants to put on Celtic Green. If Rondo is unable to put that kind of effort out there then he will always be criticized, and will always be less than he could be.

  Aside from the fact that Rondo wasn't eating spicy food in the locker room before a playoff game, Rondo pretty much gets blamed on this board every time the team plays poorly. When Doc runs the offense through Paul or Ray then Rondo's not being aggressive. When we have no transition offense because the other team is making a lot of their shots or hustling back so they're set when we get up the court then Rondo's not attacking the rim. When other players wither aren't getting open or are passing up shots then he's not distributing the ball at all. Don't get me wrong, Rondo has bad stretches and bad games (just like Paul and Ray and the rest) but he also gets blamed no matter what happens.

  And if you're judging the Celts by Larry Bird standards then, aside from possibly Ray Allen you can't say that any of the players have heart and dedication.

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« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2009, 03:17:09 PM »

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One thing that a lot of fans don't seem to get is that working on something doesn't guarantee results. Rondo has been working on his jumper for a while, and it is still erratic. It is misguided to assume that he isn't working hard enough on it.

Maybe he needs to go work on jumpers with BBD?  Davis sure came on strong with the jumper after some early struggles this season.
He is Rajon Rondo. He isn't Glen Davis.

You don't catch basketball skills like the flu. Shooting with BBD or without, working on his jumper doesn't mean that he will become even an average jump shooter for a guard.

Do people think Shaq hasn't tried to work on his free throws?

Hopefully Rondo can at least develop the ability to hit the open 3, like Kidd does. He might end up like Andre Miller though, who still can't shoot the 3 worth a lick.

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« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2009, 03:27:40 PM »

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I hope Rondo means he is correcting his jumper: Get that elbow in, take some arch off that ball, and square up and follow through better. Is Ray Allen on this kid's team or what? In all seriousness, I hope he is working on his J all season long. But, more importantly, he should be working on his free throw shooting. Next year, he should be shooting no less than 75% at the charity stripe.

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« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2009, 03:56:30 PM »

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I hope Rondo means he is correcting his jumper: Get that elbow in, take some arch off that ball, and square up and follow through better. Is Ray Allen on this kid's team or what? In all seriousness, I hope he is working on his J all season long. But, more importantly, he should be working on his free throw shooting. Next year, he should be shooting no less than 75% at the charity stripe.
Could not agree more. Except I would add that cocking the ball back to his ear when he shoots is the biggest flaw in his shot fundamentally. It's extra motion that can cause error in his shot. He needs to go straight up instead of back then up.
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« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2009, 04:27:12 PM »

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There's a lot of harsh words for Rondo in this thread.

He's 23, averaged 17 10 10 for the playoffs and has an entire summer to step his game up even further.

You guys are being way to harsh on him. Its tough to improve a weak area of your game, and he improved this past season from the year before, so there's no reason to think he won't improve his J more this summer.

Its easy to tell someone to work out like a maniac. Its a lot harder to do it yourself, so ease up. 
Those stats imo are really misleading....up until that punch to brads face rondo started going downhill. His jumpshots were awful in the semi finals and he looked completely dazed...if people are allowed to trash Pierce for not delivering this year, Rondo should be a target as well. He needs to work on his jump shot alot, because having a point guard that can't shoot well is a gigantic handicap. We had the same problem last year but we were able to slide by.
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« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2009, 04:45:46 PM »

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There's a lot of harsh words for Rondo in this thread.

He's 23, averaged 17 10 10 for the playoffs and has an entire summer to step his game up even further.

You guys are being way to harsh on him. Its tough to improve a weak area of your game, and he improved this past season from the year before, so there's no reason to think he won't improve his J more this summer.

Its easy to tell someone to work out like a maniac. Its a lot harder to do it yourself, so ease up. 
Those stats imo are really misleading....up until that punch to brads face rondo started going downhill. His jumpshots were awful in the semi finals and he looked completely dazed...if people are allowed to trash Pierce for not delivering this year, Rondo should be a target as well. He needs to work on his jump shot alot, because having a point guard that can't shoot well is a gigantic handicap. We had the same problem last year but we were able to slide by.

  Even after that game he was averaging 13/9/10. Not exactly a disaster.

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« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2009, 05:04:47 PM »

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In the summer I roughly make 500 jumpers a day, so I end up shooting around 800-1000 shots to do that.  That takes about an hour or two if your going hard and have someone to rebound for you.  So if he says he's making around 250 in his morning workout, I'd hope he's shooting in his afternoon workout as well.  Because if I'm shooting/making more jump shots than someone that is getting paid to do it, I don't think he's going to develop that jumper for a while.    :-[  Prove me wrong RR!

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« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2009, 05:26:19 PM »

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I hope Rondo means he is correcting his jumper: Get that elbow in, take some arch off that ball, and square up and follow through better. Is Ray Allen on this kid's team or what? In all seriousness, I hope he is working on his J all season long. But, more importantly, he should be working on his free throw shooting. Next year, he should be shooting no less than 75% at the charity stripe.
Could not agree more. Except I would add that cocking the ball back to his ear when he shoots is the biggest flaw in his shot fundamentally. It's extra motion that can cause error in his shot. He needs to go straight up instead of back then up.
TA does that too.

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« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2009, 05:42:45 PM »

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I hope Rondo means he is correcting his jumper: Get that elbow in, take some arch off that ball, and square up and follow through better. Is Ray Allen on this kid's team or what? In all seriousness, I hope he is working on his J all season long. But, more importantly, he should be working on his free throw shooting. Next year, he should be shooting no less than 75% at the charity stripe.

Absolutely, this is key...

Tony Parker, who remind me more and more of RR as the years go by, had similar shooting issues when he entered the league.  With repetition, he can and must improve these 2 things in order to be the All Star point guard we all know he can be...

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« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2009, 05:59:39 PM »

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I hope Rondo means he is correcting his jumper: Get that elbow in, take some arch off that ball, and square up and follow through better. Is Ray Allen on this kid's team or what? In all seriousness, I hope he is working on his J all season long. But, more importantly, he should be working on his free throw shooting. Next year, he should be shooting no less than 75% at the charity stripe.
Could not agree more. Except I would add that cocking the ball back to his ear when he shoots is the biggest flaw in his shot fundamentally. It's extra motion that can cause error in his shot. He needs to go straight up instead of back then up.
TA does that too.
Exactly and tony is not a very good shooter. I don't think there is anyone who shoots in that motion who is a really good shooter.
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« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2009, 06:05:38 PM »

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I hope Rondo means he is correcting his jumper: Get that elbow in, take some arch off that ball, and square up and follow through better. Is Ray Allen on this kid's team or what? In all seriousness, I hope he is working on his J all season long. But, more importantly, he should be working on his free throw shooting. Next year, he should be shooting no less than 75% at the charity stripe.
Could not agree more. Except I would add that cocking the ball back to his ear when he shoots is the biggest flaw in his shot fundamentally. It's extra motion that can cause error in his shot. He needs to go straight up instead of back then up.
TA does that too.
Exactly and tony is not a very good shooter. I don't think there is anyone who shoots in that motion who is a really good shooter.
Doesn't KG do it too?

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« Reply #29 on: May 29, 2009, 06:41:11 PM »

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I know that's what Doc told him to do.  As noted in the Herald:

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A backup also won't be enough. Rondo, who tailed off at the end of the Orlando series, continued to have a major weakness exposed.

``What happened to Rajon came from the way (Orlando) played him,'' said Rivers. ``Orlando made him the player who had to beat them. They took away Ray and Paul and put it on (Rondo).

``The playoffs will always be the toughest part for Rondo, because they'll always put it on him to make shots.
But he'll grow from it.''

From that, I'm assuming the team is really focusing on jump shooting with Rondo.

Good stuff. I was labelled a Rondo hater for saying the exact same thing.

A related note: Rondo is not comparable to Tony Parker in his evolution re: jump-shots. In his 3rd season, Parker took around 650 jumpers (40% eFG), including 200 triples. Rondo took 320 jumpers (37% eFG) and 48 triples. Very different games; teams were guarding Parked differently than they're guarding Rondo now.
 
I've said these many times already, but I believe that if Rondo becomes a passable shooter (for a guard), the Celtics would be the best offensive team in the league.

Answering the question from the OP, I don't know if it's enough. However, I think Rondo needs to work with a "jump-shot doctor", not by himself or with some random trainer.