Rondo suspended for possible Game 7? (UPDATE: Rondo will play in Game 7)

[guava_wrench]

I just find it odd that boxing out about 30 feet from the rim, after your team has the ball, and continuing to push a guy toward the sidelines is encouraged. Guess I am missing something.

I thought the same thing last night.  Once the ball is secure and you continue to box the guy towards the sideline for no reason, you deserve to get slung into the scorer's table.  I just Rondo wouldn't have done it for "keeping his cool" sake.

On that note, what is the rule on that? At what point can you get rid of the box out? I mean, is there a limit to how long guys can box a guy down?

I'm not trying to stir things up, just wondering what the deal is. Kirk had rondo boxed out fine, but he pushed him a row deep into the stands. seems a bit excessive.

Who was pushed a row deep into the stands? I don't think Rondo was even pushed out of bounds when he started dragging Hinrich's arm and threw him.

[BrickJames]

ESPN and NBA.com are saying Rondo "threw an elbow".  Definitely doesn't help the cause.

I wish we'd just find out already...

[D Dub]

Seems like they got the call right.  Rondo certainly committed a F1 here, but considering no punches/elbows were landed (a al DHoward), I'd say a suspension isn't warranted.

[crownsy]

I just find it odd that boxing out about 30 feet from the rim, after your team has the ball, and continuing to push a guy toward the sidelines is encouraged. Guess I am missing something.

I thought the same thing last night.  Once the ball is secure and you continue to box the guy towards the sideline for no reason, you deserve to get slung into the scorer's table.  I just Rondo wouldn't have done it for "keeping his cool" sake.

On that note, what is the rule on that? At what point can you get rid of the box out? I mean, is there a limit to how long guys can box a guy down?

I'm not trying to stir things up, just wondering what the deal is. Kirk had rondo boxed out fine, but he pushed him a row deep into the stands. seems a bit excessive.

Who was pushed a row deep into the stands? I don't think Rondo was even pushed out of bounds when he started dragging Hinrich's arm and threw him.

again, why are people expounding on the question to make it sound like im saying rondo didn't go above and beyond getting rid of kirk and is pure as the driven snow on this one in my mind? I had a simple question.

here, i'll type it again.

according to the rule book, how long can you hold up/ how far can you back down the person you are boxing out after the rebound is secured?

that all i wanted to know, I didn't want people opnions on wheather rondo was excessive in shaking off kirk, i wanted to know a rule for my personal benifit.

[guava_wrench]

I just find it odd that boxing out about 30 feet from the rim, after your team has the ball, and continuing to push a guy toward the sidelines is encouraged. Guess I am missing something.

I thought the same thing last night.  Once the ball is secure and you continue to box the guy towards the sideline for no reason, you deserve to get slung into the scorer's table.  I just Rondo wouldn't have done it for "keeping his cool" sake.

On that note, what is the rule on that? At what point can you get rid of the box out? I mean, is there a limit to how long guys can box a guy down?

I'm not trying to stir things up, just wondering what the deal is. Kirk had rondo boxed out fine, but he pushed him a row deep into the stands. seems a bit excessive.

Who was pushed a row deep into the stands? I don't think Rondo was even pushed out of bounds when he started dragging Hinrich's arm and threw him.

again, why are people expounding on the question to make it sound like im saying rondo didn't go above and beyond gettign rid of kirk? I had a simple question. here, i'll type it again.

according to the rule book, how long can you hold up/ how far can you back down the person you are boxing out after the rebound is secured?

Moot point. Watch the video just posted. Rondo started pulling Hinrich as soon as the rebound was secured.

[crownsy]

I just find it odd that boxing out about 30 feet from the rim, after your team has the ball, and continuing to push a guy toward the sidelines is encouraged. Guess I am missing something.

I thought the same thing last night.  Once the ball is secure and you continue to box the guy towards the sideline for no reason, you deserve to get slung into the scorer's table.  I just Rondo wouldn't have done it for "keeping his cool" sake.

On that note, what is the rule on that? At what point can you get rid of the box out? I mean, is there a limit to how long guys can box a guy down?

I'm not trying to stir things up, just wondering what the deal is. Kirk had rondo boxed out fine, but he pushed him a row deep into the stands. seems a bit excessive.

Who was pushed a row deep into the stands? I don't think Rondo was even pushed out of bounds when he started dragging Hinrich's arm and threw him.

again, why are people expounding on the question to make it sound like im saying rondo didn't go above and beyond gettign rid of kirk? I had a simple question. here, i'll type it again.

according to the rule book, how long can you hold up/ how far can you back down the person you are boxing out after the rebound is secured?

Moot point. Watch the video just posted. Rondo started pulling Hinrich as soon as the rebound was secured.

that has nothing whatsoever to do with what i asked, and its not a moot point to me, i want to know the rule because i don't know it and want to know for the future, not becuase i care about what happened here specificly. I don't care about who was involved. whats so hard to understand about that?

 if you want, make up a scenario where captain neptune boxes out the kung fu kid for an entire play after his team has secured the rebound and gone on offense.
 
 if you don't know, then just let the question stand until someone awnsers it please.

[guava_wrench]

Seems like they got the call right.  Rondo certainly committed a F1 here, but considering no punches/elbows were landed (a al DHoward), I'd say a suspension isn't warranted.

TP for posting video.

It is clear in the video that Rondo drags Hinrich quite a distance as soon as the Bulls grab the defensive board. The more I watch the play, the more surprising it seems.

[BballTim]

Seems like they got the call right.  Rondo certainly committed a F1 here, but considering no punches/elbows were landed (a al DHoward), I'd say a suspension isn't warranted.

 I don't see how anyone can really see that as Rondo throwing an elbow at Hinrich's head. That's just ridiculous.

[johnnyrondo]

I have a question: Why was Aaron Gray in the game? When I first saw the replay of the fight, I thought he was going to get suspended for coming off the bench, but it turns out he was in the game at the time. This was his only minute of the game and he has received DNP's in all the other games (except for garbage time minutes in the Gm 3 blowout). The conspiracy theorist in me made me think Del Negro told his team to take Rondo out on a drive. Pumped his team up to get Rondo out of his comfort zone (which the fight did), but Hinrich's extended box out got to Rondo before Gray could. Was gray supposed to be Jo Jo English version 2.0?  

[BballTim]

I have a question: Why was Aaron Gray in the game? When I first saw the replay of the fight, I thought he was going to get suspended for coming off the bench, but it turns out he was in the game at the time. This was his only minute of the game and he has received DNP's in all the other games (except for garbage time minutes in the Gm 3 blowout). The conspiracy theorist in me made me think Del Negro told his team to take Rondo out on a drive. Pumped his team up to get Rondo out of his comfort zone (which the fight did), but Hinrich's extended box out got to Rondo before Gray could. Was gray supposed to be Jo Jo English version 2.0?  

  I think that Miller, Noah and Thomas were all starting to pick up fouls.

[celts55]

Seems like they got the call right.  Rondo certainly committed a F1 here, but considering no punches/elbows were landed (a al DHoward), I'd say a suspension isn't warranted.

 I don't see how anyone can really see that as Rondo throwing an elbow at Hinrich's head. That's just ridiculous.

I think it's kind of funny when basketball players do the "somebody hold me back dance". I didn't see anything worthy of a suspendion on either player. The calls were reasonable, a flagrent 1 and the fine that comes with it for Rondo and a T for Hinrick. Neither one threw a punch or looked like they really want to. Time to move on.

[celticinorlando]

this is the one photo that scares me...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2009-04/46640765.jpg

[Roy Hobbs]

Yep...  no elbows there.

[BballTim]

this is the one photo that scares me...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2009-04/46640765.jpg

  I was about to post this. It looks worse than it is. Rondo looks like he's charging Hinrich but he's not advancing at all (check the video when the ref has his shirt and his elbow's already up). His elbow's about a foot away from Hinrich's face and Hinrich is backing up. Rondo's elbow goes straight down from that spot, not forward. Again, I don't see how anyone could see that and claim that Rondo threw an elbow at Hinrich.

[Section 87]

In the video clip, it looks to me like Rondo tried to throw an elbow at Hinrich's head. But the still actually looks better to me. Rondo had his elbow up, but in that view his elbow is far enough away from Hinrich's head to create some doubt about whether the head was the target. Funny how different people see it differently. The photo scares me a lot less than the clip.

I end up agreeing with the refs. Flagrant 1 on Rondo, T on Hinrich. Play on; game 7.