Garnett Out For Entire Play-offs?!?

[twinbree]

Sad news. I really just want all our guys to stay healthy so To me the most important thing is he gets the chance to fully recover from this injury while the others stay healthy during the playoffs. They've done a good job with the rough season and I hope to see them do the same in the playoffs.

[Cman]

I have some concerns about the medical staff, too.  Did they properly diagnose the injury?  Was there anything that could have been done to have KG ready for the playoffs?  Did they advise him that by foregoing surgery, he would likely be out for the entire playoffs?

I know it's hard to predict recovery times, but from what Doc is suggesting, this injury is going to take several months to heal.  If that's the case, I can't see KG electing a non-surgical option if surgery would have had him ready for the playoffs.

I know people want to defend the organization, but the team misdiagnosed Big Al, somehow missing bone chips in his ankle even as he repeatedly complained about persistent pain.  They rushed Wally back from repeated ankle injuries, to the point where he had to be shut down for essentially a season.  There are plenty of other examples, too.  Maybe I'm simply a skeptic, but I don't have 100% confidence that the medical staff is doing its job as well as it could.

Agree completely.  You could add that they mis-diagnosed the extent of Raef LaFrenz's injuries as well.  Where there is smoke, there is fire (often).  So, I think it is fair to lay this at the feet of the medical staff (maybe not 100%, but, say, about 70%?).

Be that as it may, I can't say I am that shocked that KG is out.  It sucks, but you play with the cards you are dealt. 

[ScoobyDoo]

Heres' my question...if KG could come back and be running up and down the court in those three games he played, he "cannot" be incredibly and seriously, seriously injured. You just can't play if that's the case. And he's been doing treadmill and running...

I don't think you can be able to be running on the treadmill and even running up and down and playing basketball and practices if you need some major surgery, I just don't see it. Therefore, wouldn't three months seem like enough time for whatever surgery he may need?

I mean, if the guy's hopbbling around on crutches ro with a cast on his foot, ok. But he's been practicing for god's sake. I just feel like this is a problem, if surgery is in fact needed, that would've healed up within 3 mths.

It seems like this whole thing, as others have said, has been badly handled.

It doesn't make any sense.

We'll know, if he has surgery in June and is at full strength come August or September , that this was the case.    

[bruinsandceltics]

Why did they have to put this out on the day of the Bruins playoffs. I was so happy and couldn't wait for the game.

Now I feel sick to my stomach. 

[crownsy]

TP to roy and other's, i forgot raef.

I think it's a legit question, one i'd like to see a reporter ask. The team will deny it of course, but why the hard sell of "sprain, no surgery, he'll be back in 2-4weeks." then "sprain kidna healing slow, another 2-4 weeks." then out of nowhere "oh yea, its a bone spur."

that to me sounds like a misdiagnosis of the initial injury and then a reexamination when the injury was lingering, thats all i'm saying. Not an indictment of our trainers, but isn't that the logical progression from those comments and stances by the team?

[CeltsRunThis]

This is like the Andrew Bynum Injury last year

[Jaycelt]

i think the celtics knew this for a while now and they screwed with everyone..but i know one thing for shore kevin needs to be on that bench thru the playooffs cheering his team mates on ....no i mean he better be on the bench cheering his team on r i will lose respect for him he has to be a cheerleader now and that means being on the bench i dont care how much it hurts him to watch but he needs to be on that bench

I agree completely.  You don't think it hurts other players to have to sit on the bench and not be able to play?  Yet we expect it of them.  Why should KG be any different.
If he really is the heart of this team, the inspiration, the leader....he will be on the sidelines.  If not, either the sportsworld has been giving him too much credit or KG is much more self centered than he lets on.

[crownsy]

i think the celtics knew this for a while now and they screwed with everyone..but i know one thing for shore kevin needs to be on that bench thru the playooffs cheering his team mates on ....no i mean he better be on the bench cheering his team on r i will lose respect for him he has to be a cheerleader now and that means being on the bench i dont care how much it hurts him to watch but he needs to be on that bench

I agree completely.  You don't think it hurts other players to have to sit on the bench and not be able to play?  Yet we expect it of them.  Why should KG be any different.
If he really is the heart of this team, the inspiration, the leader....he will be on the sidelines.  If not, either the sportsworld has been giving him too much credit or KG is much more self centered than he lets on.

he's been watching games from the locker room and speaking to guys at halftime for 12 years now when he can't play, i doubt he's going to change how he does things so you feel better about the whole thing.

[acieEarl]

It was quite obvious something was not being told to us. Certain quotes like this will shorten career by Ainge and Rivers were a dead giveaway. If KG cannot play at all, you can only imagine how severe this injury really is. He cant even be on bench because he is too excitable and stands the whole time. There is no doubt they have not been telling us the whole story so not to affect playoff sales and fan morale.

Even though I was expecting this horrible news to be released, I still almost spit my coffee out of my mouth when I opened up the site this morning. Ugh..couldn't sleep last night for some reason as well.

I am fearful that KG of the past will never be KG of the future. It is unfortunate.

I still look forward to the playoffs but now my expectations have been lowered to tough round 1 and a really, really tough round 2. We would need to see a super PP and RA and a huge leap by Rondo and Powe/Baby to even get by the Magic.

I just hope KG's career is not done.

calm down, we knwo what it is. its a freaking bone spur. It's not a career threatinging injury. if it was, they would have already done surgery, not rest and rehab.

I'm not so sure it's a bone spur. I don't exactly know what I'm taking about but the Celtics have really told us anything either. That type of injury looked like ACL or at least miniscus damage. You think we woulda heard something about needing surgury.

[cordobes]

I don't think there was a misdiagnosis. If there was, it's not a big deal - bone spurs can be hard to detect. But more probably KG has that bone spur for years, but only now it's started affecting him.

I've said these multiple times and I'll repeat it again: it's very probable surgery wasn't an option.

A bone spur rubbing on a tendon in the knee can be a lot of things. The current information is extremely vague. What’s the size and type of the bone spur? Which tendon are we talking about? Is there any ossification going on?

Generally, when a tendon is affected, the procedure is to avoid surgery at all costs – because of the risks of weakening the tendon. The surgery itself is not necessarily complicated, but the healing can be. It’s basically the same of recovering from a ruptured tendon – if it’s the patellar (something that wouldn’t surprise me, as KG was clearly suffering from tendinitis, it would be the same process Antonio McDyess went through.

Anyway, generally you try the conservative treatment – rest, strengthening, massages, etc, and only as a last resource surgery is an option.

For now, all we can do is to wait and see – with the limited info available there’s no way one can speculate about the probability of a surgery (although it becomes more probable as the time passes). That’s basically what the doctors are doing as well, although they have more information than us – wait and see.

[LarBrd33]

i really hate when I'm right, but I have been saying I wasn't buying the company line on Garnett's injury from day one.   Disappointing.  I don't expect him to play at all.  I can't see us getting out of the 2nd round without him.   This team has a history of bs'ing on injuries.

[crownsy]

I don't think there was a misdiagnosis. If there was, it's not a big deal - bone spurs can be hard to detect. But more probably KG has that bone spur for years, but only now it's started affecting him.

I've said these multiple times and I'll repeat it again: it's very probable surgery wasn't an option.

A bone spur rubbing on a tendon in the knee can be a lot of things. The current information is extremely vague. What’s the size and type of the bone spur? Which tendon are we talking about? Is there any ossification going on?

Generally, when a tendon is affected, the procedure is to avoid surgery at all costs – because of the risks of weakening the tendon. The surgery itself is not necessarily complicated, but the healing can be. It’s basically the same of recovering from a ruptured tendon – if it’s the patellar (something that wouldn’t surprise me, as KG was clearly suffering from tendinitis, it would be the same process Antonio McDyess went through.

Anyway, generally you try the conservative treatment – rest, strengthening, massages, etc, and only as a last resource surgery is an option.

For now, all we can do is to wait and see – with the limited info available there’s no way one can speculate about the probability of a surgery (although it becomes more probable as the time passes). That’s basically what the doctors are doing as well, although they have more information than us – wait and see.

if its a bone spur on the tendon, they have to go in and remove it. Its not going to "heal up" its a calcium deposit. Its going to be right there, rubbing on the tendon, until it comes out.

based on the Celtics medical staffs long history of misdiagnosing injuries, i fail to see how It's logical to give them the benefit of the doubt.

but follow the press. either they lied to us for 2 months for no reason by saying it was a sprain, only to have a change of heart and have DA go public with the fact that its a spur for some reason 3 weeks ago, or they missed it initially and caught the spur 3 weeks ago.

[crownsy]

It was quite obvious something was not being told to us. Certain quotes like this will shorten career by Ainge and Rivers were a dead giveaway. If KG cannot play at all, you can only imagine how severe this injury really is. He cant even be on bench because he is too excitable and stands the whole time. There is no doubt they have not been telling us the whole story so not to affect playoff sales and fan morale.

Even though I was expecting this horrible news to be released, I still almost spit my coffee out of my mouth when I opened up the site this morning. Ugh..couldn't sleep last night for some reason as well.

I am fearful that KG of the past will never be KG of the future. It is unfortunate.

I still look forward to the playoffs but now my expectations have been lowered to tough round 1 and a really, really tough round 2. We would need to see a super PP and RA and a huge leap by Rondo and Powe/Baby to even get by the Magic.

I just hope KG's career is not done.

calm down, we knwo what it is. its a freaking bone spur. It's not a career threatinging injury. if it was, they would have already done surgery, not rest and rehab.

I'm not so sure it's a bone spur. I don't exactly know what I'm taking about but the Celtics have really told us anything either. That type of injury looked like ACL or at least miniscus damage. You think we woulda heard something about needing surgury.

the GM has come out and said its a bone spur. And if it was an ACL, they would do surgery immediately, not wait around hoping he's wolverine and can knit a torn ligament back together on his own.

[LarBrd33]

Get it?... that's our Window.... crashing! 

bahahaha.   

Lets hope for  Willis Reed moment at the most.

[QuinielaBox]

I have some concerns about the medical staff, too.  Did they properly diagnose the injury?  Was there anything that could have been done to have KG ready for the playoffs?  Did they advise him that by foregoing surgery, he would likely be out for the entire playoffs?

I know it's hard to predict recovery times, but from what Doc is suggesting, this injury is going to take several months to heal.  If that's the case, I can't see KG electing a non-surgical option if surgery would have had him ready for the playoffs.

I know people want to defend the organization, but the team misdiagnosed Big Al, somehow missing bone chips in his ankle even as he repeatedly complained about persistent pain.  They rushed Wally back from repeated ankle injuries, to the point where he had to be shut down for essentially a season.  There are plenty of other examples, too.  Maybe I'm simply a skeptic, but I don't have 100% confidence that the medical staff is doing its job as well as it could.

Agree completely.  You could add that they mis-diagnosed the extent of Raef LaFrenz's injuries as well.  Where there is smoke, there is fire (often).  So, I think it is fair to lay this at the feet of the medical staff (maybe not 100%, but, say, about 70%?).

Be that as it may, I can't say I am that shocked that KG is out.  It sucks, but you play with the cards you are dealt. 

I hate to say this but our medical care in this country sucks overall. Too many goober doctors out there. My doctor told me to hit the gym - yeah good idea and then I pick up the bronchitis crud at the local Y. I'm just getting over it. Mrs Q is constantly complaining of aches and pains and I am dropping valuable playoff ticket money on our deficient medical care run by the Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ned crooked insurance companies.

I wonder what Dr. Gilbert Mudge is doing these days.