First signs of discontent from Starbury?

[Cman]

If Rondo is out for a couple of games with a sprain, then Starbury will get a few more minutes in the short term.

Personally, I don't think it would be bad for Starbury to get more minutes between now and the playoffs to get his shooting/ playing form back. 

It would be great if Doc could limit RA and PP to 36 mins a night max between now and playoffs.  That would mean bringing Eddie House in earlier to sub for Ray Allen, and then later Ray coming in for Pierce, with Ray playing a little SF (by the way, I don't know why DOc didn't do more of that last night). 

[crownsy]

If Rondo is out for a couple of games with a sprain, then Starbury will get a few more minutes in the short term.

Personally, I don't think it would be bad for Starbury to get more minutes between now and the playoffs to get his shooting/ playing form back. 

It would be great if Doc could limit RA and PP to 36 mins a night max between now and playoffs.  That would mean bringing Eddie House in earlier to sub for Ray Allen, and then later Ray coming in for Pierce, with Ray playing a little SF (by the way, I don't know why DOc didn't do more of that last night). 

i really have no problem resting rajon for thsi either. he looks shaky on those ankles.

[Edgar]

Starbry needs more games

14 games in 2 years isnt even cloese to be in game shape
maybe he wont be in game shape when this season is over
but he will be better on playoffs if we sit rondo and play Maarb

[bostonfan23]

He's being confident. This is grasping at straws.

[winsomme]

I guess this quote was from Tuesday, but I didn't see this until now.  I apologize if it's old news, or if it's been discussed already.

“I know I’m capable of having games where I can score 30 or 40 points,” he said. “It’s just tough to get a lot of time on a team like this. But it will be a different rotation in the playoffs, and I’m just continuing to build on what I’m learning.”

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Huh?  Is Starbury asking for more minutes?  Or is he blaming his own poor performance on the teammates he plays with on the second unit?  What about the rotation in the playoffs is going to change, to boost his 27.9% shooting?

This probably isn't a huge deal, but this seems to be perhaps the first small twinge of the "I'm not getting my points" Starbury that we all know and loathe.

yeah, i saw this Roy and wondered the same things.

But it's not really a Marbury problem. The problem for me was having your major bench acquisition be a backup PG.

I mean, where do the minutes come from?

I tried to do a breakdown of this in another thread the other day. There are really only 15 consistent MPG available for him.

In one sense, Mar is actually right. he really doesn't have enough time on the court to get his game going, but when you are backing up one of the best PGs in the league, there just aren't going to be that many minutes....

you can play him some at SG, but

1. as we saw last night, a small back court tandem creates match up problems for us and puts us at a disadvantage on the defensive end.

2. It takes time away from Eddie who is shooting at an insanely high clip from Three-land right now and I', not sure how that limiting that is actually helping us.

Our need was always to get a replacement for Posey. That's where the need was and is....

That said, my hope was the Marbury's skill level would make up for the fact that he wasn't really filling a "need"...

and that could still happen, but he NEEDS to start driving hard to the basket and getting to the FT line. That is the way he is going to help us in the playoffs IMO....getting to the line.

There's still time. I'm not giving up hope yet.

[Bankshot]

He's being confident. This is grasping at straws.

[moiso]

Marbury is evolving into Kenny Powers from Eastbound and Down.

[xmuscularghandix]

he's not complaining at all, he's on a team where its about team offense / team defense. it's hard to get your shot on when your not guarunteed touches. he's probably overthinking every shot knowing that if he misses, he might not get the ball again.

[Roy Hobbs]

it's hard to get your shot on when your not guarunteed touches. he's probably overthinking every shot knowing that if he misses, he might not get the ball again.

If that's what he's thinking, I don't think it's founded in reality.  Starbury has gotten consistent minutes since he's been here; it's not like Doc has been jerking him around, or sitting him down as soon as he makes a mistake. With the exception of last night, he's played at least 12 minutes in every game since he's signed here, and he's played over 15 minutes 9 times.

In his short time here, Starbury has averaged roughly the same number of minutes as Eddie House and Leon Powe.  The thought that all Starbury needs is minutes to get it together is simply contrary to the facts.

[winsomme]

it's hard to get your shot on when your not guarunteed touches. he's probably overthinking every shot knowing that if he misses, he might not get the ball again.

If that's what he's thinking, I don't think it's founded in reality.  Starbury has gotten consistent minutes since he's been here; it's not like Doc has been jerking him around, or sitting him down as soon as he makes a mistake. With the exception of last night, he's played at least 12 minutes in every game since he's signed here, and he's played over 15 minutes 9 times.

In his short time here, Starbury has averaged roughly the same number of minutes as Eddie House and Leon Powe.  The thought that all Starbury needs is minutes to get it together is simply contrary to the facts.

Well, i don't know. It's a little easier for Eddie and Leon to get their games going based on what they do.

Eddie is just running off picks to get a free shot and Leon is essentially just hitting the glass hard and trying wreak havoc underneath.

I think if Mar starts going hard to the basket, that is something that could generate results pretty quickly. but right now he is trying to run the offense and most of the time that is with three other bench players. that's not a recipe for instant results.

i think he now needs to focus on going hard to the rack and hitting the mid-range jumper coming off P&Rs.

It's not working at the moment, but that IMO is where he could really help us....especially until he is getting minutes with KG...

he's gotta start getting to the FT line.

[moiso]

I don't necessarily agree that it's easier for Eddie and Leon to get going due to the fact that someone has to pass them the ball whereas Marbury has it from the start of the play.  But I do agree that Marbury should start forcing the action and taking it to the hole more. 

[winsomme]

I don't necessarily agree that it's easier for Eddie and Leon to get going due to the fact that someone has to pass them the ball whereas Marbury has it from the start of the play.  But I do agree that Marbury should start forcing the action and taking it to the hole more. 

yeah. no. i agree.

I think it is what he does with the ball that is the difference. If he was playing with KG and Paul, then obviously he could have a big impact without scoring.

but he's not really playing with those guys right now....especially  not KG....so the way for him to make an impact with that being the case is to start driving hard to the rack.

[LarBrd33]

so far he looks pretty washed up.  We'll see what happens.  Is he better than Cassell was last year?

[RAcker]

I don't think so Roy.  It's a toned down version of what Cassell was saying last year (minus the 30-40 point part).  It IS hard to get playing time on this team when everyone is healthy, and I think he's just saying that that is the reality of the situation and he has to deal with it as best he can.

I agree with the Cassell comparison except for the fact that Stephanie is like 10 years younger than Sam was last year.  Sad.

[crownsy]

so far he looks pretty washed up.  We'll see what happens.  Is he better than Cassell was last year?

yes, he passes.

while so far neither has done the job, i'll take the guy that tries to run the offense over the guy who thinks the offense is him backing a guy down in the low post while everyone stands around watching and taking a horrid fall away jumper.