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House start as pg
« on: March 08, 2009, 04:24:17 PM »

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This post is not in any way knocking on Doc's call,but i noticed the team was a little flat and out of sync early.They need to get off to a good start,especially aganist top teams.Do you think House should start as pg,mainly because he is more familiar with the teams sets and can possibly get Pierce and Ray going a lot quicker,and smoother than Marbury can at the moment?

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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2009, 04:28:01 PM »

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he said in the press conference that it was a bad call, and even questioned it up until the final minutes before the game.

I'd like to see Pruitt start, Eddie is too valuable to the second unit.

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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2009, 04:35:17 PM »

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Crash course for Marbury and the team.


They all need to get used to each other and Rondo being out created such an opportunity.


Also, Marbury with extended minutes is a good thing to get him back in game shape physically and mentally

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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2009, 04:55:57 PM »

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House doesn't need to start, what could he possibly gain from it? on the other hand Marbury needs it. He still has a lot of rust & the extended playing should wear the rust out.

For some reason, I doubt that Rondo is really hurt. He looked fine to me. And that KG freakish injury is also suspecious. I believe this is all a ploy to rest these guys and have MM and Marbury get acclimated to our system. I like the strategy.

We've seen Powe, BBD, and Perk playing like superstars. This probably do the same for house & marbury. Now rest the remaining big3 and play Giddens and walker. HCA isn't that crucial this year. We've choose our ability to win under any circumstance.

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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2009, 05:05:59 PM »

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I think a guard that hasn't played in a year who just got to team SHOULD NOT start in any way.  I'd agree with anyones opinion on starting pruitt or house.  My thought would be start pruitt, get some confidence back to him after his dui and as someone stated eddie is a vet who is used to coming off the bench and producing.  marbury hasn't looked good enough to start much less play 20 minutes so far.

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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2009, 05:32:30 PM »

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Lot's has been written about Doc being afraid of hurting a young guards confidence by bringing them up too early. What about Marbury's confidence? The guy has been on an emotional roller coaster and to throw him into a situation like that seems very ill-advised. I really think Doc has a hang up about the whole vet experience thing. It is all about putting people into a situation where they have an opportunity to thrive. Experience is relative. 10 years experience on the Knicks may = 1 year w/ the NBA champs. Plus different people handle situations differently.

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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2009, 05:40:52 PM »

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Lot's has been written about Doc being afraid of hurting a young guards confidence by bringing them up too early. What about Marbury's confidence? The guy has been on an emotional roller coaster and to throw him into a situation like that seems very ill-advised. I really think Doc has a hang up about the whole vet experience thing. It is all about putting people into a situation where they have an opportunity to thrive. Experience is relative. 10 years experience on the Knicks may = 1 year w/ the NBA champs. Plus different people handle situations differently.

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That's a good point.  Marbury's ego can deal with Rondo starting, but not House or Pruitt. 

I could see them starting Marbury right now just to make sure that of that was the case, it didn't cause an unneeded distraction.

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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2009, 05:48:23 PM »

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You know, Marbury starting DID let House play in the 4th quarter, like Rondo starting last year did, and if House had his shot, he coulda given the C's the push they needed today to win.

Maybe that's just an overly optimistic reason that Doc started Marbury. No matter how you look at it, though, Marbury did need the minutes. He's been talking about wanting the Celtics to play in a bit more playoff atmosphere to prepare them. This included keeping them in for the 1st quarter if someone got 2 fouls early on. This includes Marbury needing minutes.

But yeah, he didn't get any assists, and that does bother me. He probably does need the 2nd unit, but so does House! See, and if TA was available, Marbury probably coulda been in the 2nd unit with him, or something.

Clearly, though, Marbury needs time, A LOT more time.

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Right now, the team is better with House running the point.

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Honestly Marbury needs to just relax. He has been labeled as a ball hog and a cancer so on this team he is being too unselfish. He needs to just play basketball. Do what made him successful in the past, go to the bucket and score the basketball.
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Does it seem to anyone else that he is having the same issues Cassell had last year?

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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2009, 05:59:08 PM »

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Does it seem to anyone else that he is having the same issues Cassell had last year?

I think Steph already has more assists than Sam had all last year.   ;D

I already pointed out that I thought it was weird that Eddie wasn't starting in the game thread (hadn't thought about the ego thing) but I'm not going to draw any conclusions on Steph either until the 3 or so weeks of getting his legs back has passed.

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« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2009, 06:02:35 PM »

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Does it seem to anyone else that he is having the same issues Cassell had last year?

no steph has already made more passes in the flow of the offense than sam ever did, also he's shown spurts of dribble drive penetration and the ablity to pass the ball off and still mvoe without the ball.

Its already a vast improvement over watching sam come down, post up and dribble for 4 seconds and try to shoot over the top while everyone else stands around since they know he won't be passing.

Steph's problem, IMO, is that he's trying to fit in to much. Alot of times he's really passive, but i think thats rust as well. he's not confidant in his handle yet.
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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2009, 06:49:51 PM »

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Rivers actually questioned himself for starting Stephon Marbury at point guard over Eddie House, saying that his instinct was to start House (despite a lesser ability to handle the ball) because House had better command of the Boston offense. He ultimately chose Marbury because the Celtics need to get Marbury involved and opportunities of the like may be hard to come by.

Rivers described the situation as a little bit of "a Catch-22," but it should speak volumes that House was on the floor (and Marbury was not) when the Celtics made their most spirited run in the fourth quarter. At that time, Rivers went largely with a lineup of House, Ray Allen, Pierce, Miki Moore and Leon Powe.

Marbury played just 5:49 in the second half and 20:30 overall. He had four points, no assists and three turnovers. House played 30:21 and finished with five points, five rebounds, two assists and one turnover.

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« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2009, 07:15:46 PM »

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I'd keep starting Marbury.  Let him play.  It isn't going to be easy, but then again, we're not going to play the Magic every night.  By no means should we play Pruitt more.  He isn't going to play come playoff time, so there's no point in getting him PT. 

We need to bite the bullet and get Stephon playing time.  If he can get up to speed by playoff time, he can put the C's over the top in any series.