David Stern Is A Laker Fan

[Champzilla]

RH is my hero.

[Underbruin]

BC -

I think Lakers fans are generally more surprised about the complaining concerning officiating given Boston's usual brand of basketball. The Celtics play a very physical, imposing style of D - we can all agree on this, yes? When you then hear Doc Rivers noting post-game that he felt like the officials let the game get 'too chippy,' it suggests a disconnect with what one might expect. A game with more contact and fewer general calls would seemingly benefit the Celtics more than the Lakers most of the time, would it not?

Of course, the argument could be that Boston was the recipient of several poor calls. I wouldn't agree, but I'm obviously rather biased, so who's to say? However, I would note that a -Boston Celtics- fan portraying a scenario where the big bad league is trying to keep them down... Well, it just doesn't ring quite true. If you heard of Lakers fans doing so, you'd think we were mentally unstable. While I think LA's glitzy media presence may offer it more chances for the spotlight, LAL and BOS are far and away the two most marquee franchises in the NBA. Imagining either as the victim of a conspiracy from the top of the league office just strains credulity a tad.

Plenty of Lakers fans Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. about the officiating from last season's finals - my first appearance over here was after what I'd like to call the "Leon Powe" game. That being said, to think there was a conspiracy against LA? Sounds pretty silly. But I can fairly well promise you the fans of every other NBA team who might hear Boston Celtics fans bemoaning their sad lot in life as the downtrodden underdog who must overcome institutional bias against them... Well, they would be less than impressed, I'm sure.

[QuinielaBox]

If David Stern is a Laker fan, he must love Lamar Odom because Lamar was the difference maker in the 2nd half last night. Lamar shows up once every 5 games and that is when the Lakers are hard to beat. That and Kobe made some 30 ft 3 pointers with Pierce's hand in his face.

Also KG and Perkins were slowed by Foul Trouble so Gasol had his favorable matchup against Powe and BBD. I like what Powe and BBD bring but they are simply not tall enough against the big teams out there. Scalabrine against Gasol or Odom could have helped us Thursday night.

Stern is a great fan of the game but his anti-Boston bias dates back to Red Auerbach and not this bunch. Bird, along with Magic and Micheal made Stern a heck of a lot of money dating back to the 80's Golden Era so he cannot be entirely against Boston.

[NoraG1]

BC -

I think Lakers fans are generally more surprised about the complaining concerning officiating given Boston's usual brand of basketball. The Celtics play a very physical, imposing style of D - we can all agree on this, yes? When you then hear Doc Rivers noting post-game that he felt like the officials let the game get 'too chippy,' it suggests a disconnect with what one might expect. A game with more contact and fewer general calls would seemingly benefit the Celtics more than the Lakers most of the time, would it not?

Of course, the argument could be that Boston was the recipient of several poor calls. I wouldn't agree, but I'm obviously rather biased, so who's to say? However, I would note that a -Boston Celtics- fan portraying a scenario where the big bad league is trying to keep them down... Well, it just doesn't ring quite true. If you heard of Lakers fans doing so, you'd think we were mentally unstable. While I think LA's glitzy media presence may offer it more chances for the spotlight, LAL and BOS are far and away the two most marquee franchises in the NBA. Imagining either as the victim of a conspiracy from the top of the league office just strains credulity a tad.

Plenty of Lakers fans **** about the officiating from last season's finals - my first appearance over here was after what I'd like to call the "Leon Powe" game. That being said, to think there was a conspiracy against LA? Sounds pretty silly. But I can fairly well promise you the fans of every other NBA team who might hear Boston Celtics fans bemoaning their sad lot in life as the downtrodden underdog who must overcome institutional bias against them... Well, they would be less than impressed, I'm sure.

We could care less what other teams fans' of us think. We already know they loathe Boston.

[footey]

Stern is an NBA fan, an admitted Knick fan previously. He has no agenda against the Celtics. He understands the importance of having healthy rivalries, and none is stronger or more entertaining than that of Celtics--Lakers. TV #'s bear that out.

[Rondo_is_better]

RH is my hero.

Me too.

[BudweiserCeltic]

BC -

I think Lakers fans are generally more surprised about the complaining concerning officiating given Boston's usual brand of basketball. The Celtics play a very physical, imposing style of D - we can all agree on this, yes? When you then hear Doc Rivers noting post-game that he felt like the officials let the game get 'too chippy,' it suggests a disconnect with what one might expect. A game with more contact and fewer general calls would seemingly benefit the Celtics more than the Lakers most of the time, would it not?

Of course, the argument could be that Boston was the recipient of several poor calls. I wouldn't agree, but I'm obviously rather biased, so who's to say? However, I would note that a -Boston Celtics- fan portraying a scenario where the big bad league is trying to keep them down... Well, it just doesn't ring quite true. If you heard of Lakers fans doing so, you'd think we were mentally unstable. While I think LA's glitzy media presence may offer it more chances for the spotlight, LAL and BOS are far and away the two most marquee franchises in the NBA. Imagining either as the victim of a conspiracy from the top of the league office just strains credulity a tad.

Plenty of Lakers fans **** about the officiating from last season's finals - my first appearance over here was after what I'd like to call the "Leon Powe" game. That being said, to think there was a conspiracy against LA? Sounds pretty silly. But I can fairly well promise you the fans of every other NBA team who might hear Boston Celtics fans bemoaning their sad lot in life as the downtrodden underdog who must overcome institutional bias against them... Well, they would be less than impressed, I'm sure.

Please point out where in my post I said anything about a conspiracy, about stern, etc. and then come and talk to me. Your post is in no way related to what I mentioned in my post. I suggest you try again. Fact of the matter is that the refs were a piece of crap the other day, there's no way around it and no way you can argue against it. Calling a foul on Garnett, for one, a star of this league without him touching the player is just complete garbage. You know it, and we know it. If you want to close your eyes and remain ignorant, well be my guest.

[ACF]

When people start talking about conspiracies
against the Celtics, I think they're being silly.
I hate Stern as much as the next guy but come
on people! I think the refs are just not doing
their jobs very well and of course that sucks.
I think bad calls were being made at both ends.
If we believe in those theories we should not
even follow the NBA anymore, IMHO...
There were a lot of people slagging the refs
immediately after the Laker game and I understand
a lot of that came by way of frustration. But then
I also thought that people would go back to their
"normal" selves once they slept on the game and had
a chance to digest the game. I was quite disappointed
to find out a lot of people were still that angry.
I'm not trying to tell y'all how to react but think
about this: Do we want to be perceived as classy fans
or just as a bunch of whiny hooligans? I know what I
would like for myself. I am not trying to infuriate
anyone, I just want to make a point. Btw, Roy is my
hero, too. Just wanted to add that before anyone calls
me a (dare I say it?) Laker Lover 
Again, I hope you see where this is coming from.

[Hal Chase]

budweiser celtic just proved my point LOL.  Yes, lakers fans have complained about officiating, but from what I have seen, not to the level of whining about every lost game and minute plays; don't you think thats ridiculous?  The celtics are just contant victims of bad refs, which causes them to lose?  Theres no other way to look at that reasoning other then being bitter.  And since Perkins "dominated" Bynum last year, that immediately applies to this year and automatically voids Bynum's abilities and age?  I know you are a hardcore biased fan, but bottom line I think its lame when fans(lakers, celtics, dodgers whatever) put the blame on refs/umpires, when ultimately it's the players performance which determines the outcome of the game.  Like I said, it's just a bitter excuse in my opinion.

hobbs- I don't think im "trolling", but adding a differing viewpoint than most posters here.  That makes it interesting, right?  Thanks for your concern.
 

[dark_lord]

i dont think stern is a fan or the lakers necesarily.  i DO think he is a fan of money.  kobe and the lakers generate large audiences, merchandise and money for the league, so he loves that.

i think refs are influenced by the lakers.  they give kobe calls like no one else (perhaps lebron, but thats it).  they have fisher who is the president of the players association, and they have the love fest that is phil jackson.  nba officiating is extremely biased and political.  a superstar should not get a call bc of his ability over a rookie or 12th man.  a foul is a foul, period.  then u have the notorious make up calls. again, poltics as usual for the officiating.  the refs dont win and lose games, but to say that they dont influence the game and its momentum is naive.

[BudweiserCeltic]

budweiser celtic just proved my point LOL.  Yes, lakers fans have complained about officiating, but from what I have seen, not to the level of whining about every lost game and minute plays; don't you think thats ridiculous?  The celtics are just contant victims of bad refs, which causes them to lose?  Theres no other way to look at that reasoning other then being bitter.  And since Perkins "dominated" Bynum last year, that immediately applies to this year and automatically voids Bynum's abilities and age?  I know you are a hardcore biased fan, but bottom line I think its lame when fans(lakers, celtics, dodgers whatever) put the blame on refs/umpires, when ultimately it's the players performance which determines the outcome of the game.  Like I said, it's just a bitter excuse in my opinion.

hobbs- I don't think im "trolling", but adding a differing viewpoint than most posters here.  That makes it interesting, right?  Thanks for your concern.
 

I don't see how I in any way proved your point, but as long as you're happy with your delusions, I guess all is good. And once again, did I mention anything about Bynum THIS year?

Seriously, you need some reading comprehension.

[RAcker]

budweiser celtic just proved my point LOL.  Yes, lakers fans have complained about officiating, but from what I have seen, not to the level of whining about every lost game and minute plays; don't you think thats ridiculous?  The celtics are just contant victims of bad refs, which causes them to lose?  Theres no other way to look at that reasoning other then being bitter.  And since Perkins "dominated" Bynum last year, that immediately applies to this year and automatically voids Bynum's abilities and age?  I know you are a hardcore biased fan, but bottom line I think its lame when fans(lakers, celtics, dodgers whatever) put the blame on refs/umpires, when ultimately it's the players performance which determines the outcome of the game.  Like I said, it's just a bitter excuse in my opinion.

hobbs- I don't think im "trolling", but adding a differing viewpoint than most posters here.  That makes it interesting, right?  Thanks for your concern.
 

Um...a differing viewpoint?  Listen, you have 4 posts but I have no way of knowing how long you have read this site.  From everything I've read from these guys over a few years of reading their "viewpoints" I honestly do not hear a whole heck of a lot about officiating either way. 

However, we've had a few reasons to scratch our heads this year.  Case 1, Portland with 6 players on the floor and the refs let the play stand?  Case 2, and we WON this game, the game just prior to playing LA Pierce gets hammered going to the basket, and I mean hammered, and no foul call.  Case 3, LA at HOME and again Pierce gets slammed into by Kobe the Ripper jarring the ball lose and giving LA a 3 on 1 the other way which puts them ahead at a crucial juncture of the game in our building.  This along with the ticky tack ridiculous calls on Garnett and you have our reasons for wondering what is going on.

This has nothing to do with LA.  It has nothing to do with Philly or Portland either.  What we wonder is how the officiating is this horrible in a game involving the defending NBA Champions?

It is a league wide problem.  I just can't see how any neutral fan or even a completely biased LA fan would not see how Boston got shafted at home on several occassions the other night.  But oh well.  Good luck making it out of the west.  We have bigger fish to fry before worrying the slightest bit about the likes of you again (i.e. the LeBrons).

[Hal Chase]

for budweiser celtic, you basically proved my point that some of you excessively harp on refs calls causing losses.  It's not that hard to comprehend in the post.  For the Bynum reference, I was referring to posts ive read where people think he is not a difference THIS YEAR against the celtics, which is pretty delusional.  Any fan could pick apart and obsess over little instances through out the season, and tie it together with the the refs being against thier team.  I bet just as many calls go your way, than against you. EX:  if I was an opposing teams fan, I could make a list just as long for supposed blown calls against my team.  This blaming game goes nowhere, makes you look like a sore loser and does not change the outcome. 

[BudweiserCeltic]

for budweiser celtic, you basically proved my point that some of you excessively harp on refs calls causing losses.  It's not that hard to comprehend in the post.  For the Bynum reference, I was referring to posts ive read where people think he is not a difference THIS YEAR against the celtics, which is pretty delusional.  Any fan could pick apart and obsess over little instances through out the season, and tie it together with the the refs being against thier team.  I bet just as many calls go your way, than against you. EX:  if I was an opposing teams fan, I could make a list just as long for supposed blown calls against my team.  This blaming game goes nowhere, makes you look like a sore loser and does not change the outcome. 

Hal, I'm done with you. You clearly have trouble reading and interpreting what my posts are about. It's beyond me how you're coming up with all the crap from what I've written.

[Champzilla]

Hal Chase, if the Celtics won the other night would you be here arguing with fans.  I think what your doing is extremely disrespectful, calling us sore losers on our own blog, you don't have to rub in the win troll.