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Re: Doc is not a good coach - Period
« Reply #45 on: February 06, 2009, 01:16:46 AM »

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I think its unfair to blame Big Baby for the loss. Yeah he missed some important shots but winning games should not depend on our undersized back-up center. He has made some clutch plays lately and I can't throw him (and Doc) under the bus for this one. A lot of things went wrong at the end. Problems I hope practice time and a bench upgrade can solve.
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Re: Doc is not a good coach - Period
« Reply #46 on: February 06, 2009, 01:25:55 AM »

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i don't care about matchups and philosophy...

you always go with the hot hand...

every coach knows that...

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if you disagree

you didn't watch the game

Match-ups, situations, understanding that there is a bigger picture to consider on February 5...meaningless.  Anyone who doesn't see it your way...uninformed.

To use a recent (and rather enjoyable) Roy-ism, "got it."

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That's a TP as well.

Re: Doc is not a good coach - Period
« Reply #47 on: February 06, 2009, 01:35:30 AM »

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Doc  just doesnt have the bench to beat LA or cleveland right now, period...
I still cant get over KG fouling out on a ticky tack call at home in a game like this after getting fouled 3 times in a row, makes me wanna take a break from the nba
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Re: Doc is not a good coach - Period
« Reply #48 on: February 06, 2009, 02:15:32 AM »

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Doc  just doesnt have the bench to beat LA or cleveland right now, period...
I still cant get over KG fouling out on a ticky tack call at home in a game like this after getting fouled 3 times in a row, makes me wanna take a break from the nba
I agree,its terrible the way the officiating is these days.I really was expecting it to be a little better this season with the hiring of the military guy to clean things up,supposedly.

Re: Doc is not a good coach - Period
« Reply #49 on: February 06, 2009, 02:23:20 AM »

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It was only a 1pt. loss and the game could have gone the other way very easily.Its only Feb..if it was in March or April,it might be a big deal.I still think our blowout win in a championship series over them is much better than a 1pt.loss in Feb...

Re: Doc is not a good coach - Period
« Reply #50 on: February 06, 2009, 02:36:53 AM »

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Doc  just doesnt have the bench to beat LA or cleveland right now, period...
I still cant get over KG fouling out on a ticky tack call at home in a game like this after getting fouled 3 times in a row, makes me wanna take a break from the nba
I agree,its terrible the way the officiating is these days.I really was expecting it to be a little better this season with the hiring of the military guy to clean things up,supposedly.

Yeah that military guy I'm convinced is a hack. I watched an interview where he claimed they reviewed every game to make sure the refs were doing their job right. That's where he lost credibility to me. I don't even watch half of the games and I can tell the officials are nowhere near competent. They are not serious about improving the reffing. There needed to be a much bigger fallout from the Donaghy scandal
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Re: Doc is not a good coach - Period
« Reply #51 on: February 06, 2009, 06:32:20 AM »

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I'm holding my tongue...but *cough* overreaction *cough* two 12 game win streaks.. ahem.. first title in 22 years...*cough* yeah stupid doc, he's totally holding us back
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Re: Doc is not a good coach - Period
« Reply #52 on: February 06, 2009, 06:44:33 AM »

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Since it's my pet peeve:  The team was -8 when it went with a four man bench unit.

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Re: Doc is not a good coach - Period
« Reply #53 on: February 06, 2009, 07:37:35 AM »

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Yup. There's no question whatsoever that the Lakers have the superior bench - and that after Garnett was removed - not going to use the term fouled out - from the game we didn't have enough offense on the floor. The overtime was actually closer than I expected.

We're not deep, period - and it's going to haunt us in the playoffs if it doesn't change.
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Re: Doc is not a good coach - Period
« Reply #54 on: February 06, 2009, 07:41:15 AM »

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i don't care about matchups and philosophy...

you always go with the hot hand...

every coach knows that...

Quote
if you disagree

you didn't watch the game

Match-ups, situations, understanding that there is a bigger picture to consider on February 5...meaningless.  Anyone who doesn't see it your way...uninformed.

To use a recent (and rather enjoyable) Roy-ism, "got it."

-sw


There goes Mr. Steve again trying to educate the masses. Well done, sir.

"You always go with the hot hand." I'll have to remember that the next time the BCA gets together. That one will be good for some major laughter.

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Re: Doc is not a good coach - Period
« Reply #55 on: February 06, 2009, 07:50:31 AM »

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You are right about Doc being a bad coach, that truly sucked when we won the World Championship last year! I say fire Doc & make Scal player/coach!

Re: Doc is not a good coach - Period
« Reply #56 on: February 06, 2009, 08:02:50 AM »

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Doc  just doesnt have the bench to beat LA or cleveland right now, period...
I still cant get over KG fouling out on a ticky tack call at home in a game like this after getting fouled 3 times in a row, makes me wanna take a break from the nba

Disagree about LA.  I thought our bench was good enough to win last night.  It was PP and Ray's poor shooting night and KG fouling out that lost the game (I know BBD didn't shoot well either, but he wouldn't be in the overtime had KG not fouled out).
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Re: Doc is not a good coach - Period
« Reply #57 on: February 06, 2009, 08:23:43 AM »

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To use a recent (and rather enjoyable) Roy-ism, "got it."


Uh oh.  We know Steve is grasping at straws when he starts taking on my method of arguing. ;)

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Re: Doc is not a good coach - Period
« Reply #58 on: February 06, 2009, 08:34:52 AM »

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So, I don't watch the Celtics much but is Davis usually positioned that far from the hoop and that free of a shooter?  I equate those 2 shots he took in overtime to watching Varejao shoot a jumper.  He makes a fair share but I never want him shooting in the clutch.  You need him on the floor for his defense, but he must understand when he should be launching shots and when he shouldn't.  In Overtime, with a guy closing on you seems like a time when Davis shouldn't be shooting the ball.

Re: Doc is not a good coach - Period
« Reply #59 on: February 06, 2009, 08:38:43 AM »

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So, I don't watch the Celtics much but is Davis usually positioned that far from the hoop and that free of a shooter?  I equate those 2 shots he took in overtime to watching Varejao shoot a jumper.  He makes a fair share but I never want him shooting in the clutch.  You need him on the floor for his defense, but he must understand when he should be launching shots and when he shouldn't.  In Overtime, with a guy closing on you seems like a time when Davis shouldn't be shooting the ball.

I thought most of the shots he took were good.  But that last shot in overtime that got blocked, I thought he should have passed it because there was still time on the shot clock. :(  And I don't think we have to worry about BBD being in too many overtime games, this was a special circumstance where KG fouled out.
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