Cliff: use Chief as Prototype for O'Bryant on Offense

[JBcat]

Here's what I wonder: why hasn't he been sent to the NBDL?

He ought to be playing down there for a bit just to a) compete and develop and/or b) experience first-hand from some of his less-gifted peers how desire and tenacity are essential to those aspiring to play basketball for a career.

Only players in their first two seasons can be sent to the D-League.

I think this rule only applies if your signed with a NBA team.  Kedrick Brown who has played a few years in the NBA is allowed to play in the D league.  Regardless I think it's a stupid rule.  POB could use some real game time to help develop his game or at the very least help stay in shape.

[gar]

Here's what I wonder: why hasn't he been sent to the NBDL?

He ought to be playing down there for a bit just to a) compete and develop and/or b) experience first-hand from some of his less-gifted peers how desire and tenacity are essential to those aspiring to play basketball for a career.

He had decent numbers in D league last year. He was not as dominant as some had hoped; but I am not sure the D league game favors big men. No reason to think he would be an embarrassment. I really don't know why people make these kind of assumptions. Danny obviously watched his D league play and saw something. I believe he was something like 18 pts / 8 reb - can't find it now.

Only players in their first two seasons can be sent to the D-League.

it's probably best...i bet if they sent him down he'd have embarrassingly low numbers.

[Scribbles]

So if Perk gets hit with a suspension and Scal is still out do we see POB get some minutes?

[twinbree]

So if Perk gets hit with a suspension and Scal is still out do we see POB get some minutes?

I get the feeling Doc might prefer to play Sam at center before POB cracks the rotation but its just a feeling 

[footey]

So if Perk gets hit with a suspension and Scal is still out do we see POB get some minutes?

Doubt it. I think Doc is more likely to boost Powe's minutes in that case.

[RebusRankin]

So if Perk gets hit with a suspension and Scal is still out do we see POB get some minutes?

I think he might.

[Andy Jick]

So if Perk gets hit with a suspension and Scal is still out do we see POB get some minutes?

nope...he didn't when perk was out before so nothing tells me this will change.

[BillfromBoston]

POB was a nice idea, but it's apparent it simply isn't working out...he doesn't have the DRIVE to be an nba player.

i see glimpses of talent, but it's always easier to show that when the game is over, you're leading by 20 points and being guarded by another 12th man on the opposing team.  doc has stated there is "celtic speed and patrick speed..." and THAT will spell POB's demise.

we have an outstanding big man coach...yes, you can teach a kid skills, but you canNOT teach a kid desire.  POB is NO robert parish...

POB isn't even an acie earl...

Exactly...kid has no heart, no desire to compete - when you watch him play in garbage time he treats it like its garbage time - a player hungry to get on the court would treat any playing time seriously...

POB is just one of the 100's of players to have made the NBA on talent, but to have fallen short of their potential because they don't really love the game...

[Danimals]

... Just seems like he can't bench the bar with no weights on it or squat a pole with big baby's shorts on either end.

I don't like thugs, but I'm with Ainge (and Doc) on wanting instigators.

There's something very unsettling about having a center who is the polar opposite of an enforcer. Everyone knows that Parish had Bird's back. You get very clear sense that Perkins has Garnett's.

But is there an NBA center out there that can't put POB in the hospital?

[CoachBo]

POB was a nice idea, but it's apparent it simply isn't working out...he doesn't have the DRIVE to be an nba player.

i see glimpses of talent, but it's always easier to show that when the game is over, you're leading by 20 points and being guarded by another 12th man on the opposing team.  doc has stated there is "celtic speed and patrick speed..." and THAT will spell POB's demise.

we have an outstanding big man coach...yes, you can teach a kid skills, but you canNOT teach a kid desire.  POB is NO robert parish...

POB isn't even an acie earl...

Exactly...kid has no heart, no desire to compete - when you watch him play in garbage time he treats it like its garbage time - a player hungry to get on the court would treat any playing time seriously...

POB is just one of the 100's of players to have made the NBA on talent, but to have fallen short of their potential because they don't really love the game...

Indeed. You cannot coach effort.

Paddy was lazy in college. He built his numbers in a conference that historically has no size.

And then, confronted with a seven-figure contract, he didn't find any intensity. There are good, hard working Americans across this country with no jobs and this guy doesn't think seven figures is a reason to work hard.

I find that morally offensive, frankly.

Cut him. Now.

[cdif911]

POB will not be on this roster at the end of the year, so Cliff should stick to helping guys who we'll actually be using

[footey]

POB was a nice idea, but it's apparent it simply isn't working out...he doesn't have the DRIVE to be an nba player.

i see glimpses of talent, but it's always easier to show that when the game is over, you're leading by 20 points and being guarded by another 12th man on the opposing team.  doc has stated there is "celtic speed and patrick speed..." and THAT will spell POB's demise.

we have an outstanding big man coach...yes, you can teach a kid skills, but you canNOT teach a kid desire.  POB is NO robert parish...

POB isn't even an acie earl...

Exactly...kid has no heart, no desire to compete - when you watch him play in garbage time he treats it like its garbage time - a player hungry to get on the court would treat any playing time seriously...

POB is just one of the 100's of players to have made the NBA on talent, but to have fallen short of their potential because they don't really love the game...

Indeed. You cannot coach effort.

Paddy was lazy in college. He built his numbers in a conference that historically has no size.

And then, confronted with a seven-figure contract, he didn't find any intensity. There are good, hard working Americans across this country with no jobs and this guy doesn't think seven figures is a reason to work hard.

I find that morally offensive, frankly.

Cut him. Now.

What Bernie Madoff did his investors was morally offensive. Patrick O'Bryant?? Come on, dude. He's just a bench player on a basketball team. What about him makes you so angry? The fact that he is tall and has some talent, but is failing to crack the rotation on your favorite team so we can match up better with the Lakers?  It's only a game. I know we are all fans here, only a handful of you can match my history with this team, but come on, a little lighter on the salt.

[clover]

There is one problem...O'Bryant doesn't have enough talent to hold Parish's jock strap.

Not fair to compare. Chief was 23 his rookie season with Golden State and  averaged only 9 points and 7 rebounds, playing nearly 20 minutes a game.  POB is still 22 (he won't even turn 23 unitl the end of this season).  Look, I am not going to say POB will match up eventually with Chief-- we should be so lucky -- but O'Bryant still is very young, has VG athleticism for his size, a good shooting touch, and other physical tools and a body that remind me of a young Chief, who was a pretty skinny guy, but unafraid to mix it up. Chief also came with a reputation of being underachieving and lazy when the trade was made. (I was in my mid twenties when Boston traded for him, most bloggers here were in diapers or not born.) Why do you think GS was willing to give up Parish and the 3rd pick in the draft for Joy "Barely Cares" Carroll and a 10?  Because they thought Barely Cares would be a huge upgrade for them in the middle over Chief. It is way too early to give up on POB. I think Danny is going to give the guy another year at least.

Exactly.  Parish didn't start a single NBA game until he was 27.  Could Patty be a starter in 5 years?  I wouldn't rule it out.

[CoachBo]

POB was a nice idea, but it's apparent it simply isn't working out...he doesn't have the DRIVE to be an nba player.

i see glimpses of talent, but it's always easier to show that when the game is over, you're leading by 20 points and being guarded by another 12th man on the opposing team.  doc has stated there is "celtic speed and patrick speed..." and THAT will spell POB's demise.

we have an outstanding big man coach...yes, you can teach a kid skills, but you canNOT teach a kid desire.  POB is NO robert parish...

POB isn't even an acie earl...

Exactly...kid has no heart, no desire to compete - when you watch him play in garbage time he treats it like its garbage time - a player hungry to get on the court would treat any playing time seriously...

POB is just one of the 100's of players to have made the NBA on talent, but to have fallen short of their potential because they don't really love the game...

Indeed. You cannot coach effort.

Paddy was lazy in college. He built his numbers in a conference that historically has no size.

And then, confronted with a seven-figure contract, he didn't find any intensity. There are good, hard working Americans across this country with no jobs and this guy doesn't think seven figures is a reason to work hard.

I find that morally offensive, frankly.

Cut him. Now.

What Bernie Madoff did his investors was morally offensive. Patrick O'Bryant?? Come on, dude. He's just a bench player on a basketball team. What about him makes you so angry? The fact that he is tall and has some talent, but is failing to crack the rotation on your favorite team so we can match up better with the Lakers?  It's only a game. I know we are all fans here, only a handful of you can match my history with this team, but come on, a little lighter on the salt.

I don't find taking a million dollars for nothing amusing. I also don't find this kind of sorry work ethic worthy of wearing a Boston Celtic uniform.

And you're kidding yourself if you think this guy has professional talent. He doesn't.

[footey]

POB was a nice idea, but it's apparent it simply isn't working out...he doesn't have the DRIVE to be an nba player.

i see glimpses of talent, but it's always easier to show that when the game is over, you're leading by 20 points and being guarded by another 12th man on the opposing team.  doc has stated there is "celtic speed and patrick speed..." and THAT will spell POB's demise.

we have an outstanding big man coach...yes, you can teach a kid skills, but you canNOT teach a kid desire.  POB is NO robert parish...

POB isn't even an acie earl...

Exactly...kid has no heart, no desire to compete - when you watch him play in garbage time he treats it like its garbage time - a player hungry to get on the court would treat any playing time seriously...

POB is just one of the 100's of players to have made the NBA on talent, but to have fallen short of their potential because they don't really love the game...

Indeed. You cannot coach effort.

Paddy was lazy in college. He built his numbers in a conference that historically has no size.

And then, confronted with a seven-figure contract, he didn't find any intensity. There are good, hard working Americans across this country with no jobs and this guy doesn't think seven figures is a reason to work hard.

I find that morally offensive, frankly.

Cut him. Now.

What Bernie Madoff did his investors was morally offensive. Patrick O'Bryant?? Come on, dude. He's just a bench player on a basketball team. What about him makes you so angry? The fact that he is tall and has some talent, but is failing to crack the rotation on your favorite team so we can match up better with the Lakers?  It's only a game. I know we are all fans here, only a handful of you can match my history with this team, but come on, a little lighter on the salt.

I don't find taking a million dollars for nothing amusing. I also don't find this kind of sorry work ethic worthy of wearing a Boston Celtic uniform.

And you're kidding yourself if you think this guy has professional talent. He doesn't.

Danny Ainge obviously thinks he has "professional talent."  He signed him to a professional contract.

Tommy Heinsohn also seems to think this guy has professional talent: "I like to see that kid play. He's going to make some mistakes out there. But he has a world of talent."

Be patient, Bo. Rome wasn't built in a day. Neither are good centers.