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Re: The Tony Allen Bandwagon
« Reply #75 on: January 20, 2009, 10:09:51 PM »

Offline Andy Jick

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We used to read the same silliness about Delonte West.

not sure what you mean by this...

delonte is a goofball, but he's a smart basketball player.  he has his limitations but i'd never question his basketball i.q.

if anything, i'd say delonte gets more out of his game than most because he is such a smart basketball player.

tony allen is a dumb basketball player and that hasn't really changed over his pro career.  honestly, we're not really missing him and i'd rather see pruitt and walker get a look.
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Re: The Tony Allen Bandwagon
« Reply #76 on: January 20, 2009, 10:45:44 PM »

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I really want TA to succeed because it'll help the team and because I'm tired of cringing whenever he touches the ball. I'm curious to see the rotation when he gets back. Gabe/Eddie have looked better to me than Eddie/Tony at the 1/2 but TA seems too undersized to play all his minutes at the 3.
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Re: The Tony Allen Bandwagon
« Reply #77 on: January 21, 2009, 10:01:44 AM »

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We used to read the same silliness about Delonte West.
Ask Cleveland how they feel with Delonte right now.
I am sure they think Hes a playaaaaaaaaa!!!
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Re: The Tony Allen Bandwagon
« Reply #78 on: January 21, 2009, 10:03:15 AM »

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We used to read the same silliness about Delonte West.

I know your not a fan of his game brick, but Dwest turned out to be a pretty good player. I think he's a 6th or 7th man outside clevland, not a starter, but he is  better than tony can ever hope to be.
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Re: The Tony Allen Bandwagon
« Reply #79 on: January 21, 2009, 10:24:54 AM »

Offline Andy Jick

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We used to read the same silliness about Delonte West.

I know your not a fan of his game brick, but Dwest turned out to be a pretty good player. I think he's a 6th or 7th man outside clevland, not a starter, but he is  better than tony can ever hope to be.

agreed...would you rather have west or house on this team?  no brainer, in my opinion.
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Re: The Tony Allen Bandwagon
« Reply #80 on: January 21, 2009, 10:35:45 AM »

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We used to read the same silliness about Delonte West.

I know your not a fan of his game brick, but Dwest turned out to be a pretty good player. I think he's a 6th or 7th man outside clevland, not a starter, but he is  better than tony can ever hope to be.

agreed...would you rather have west or house on this team?  no brainer, in my opinion.
Heck just look at how much West got paid compared to House!

Re: The Tony Allen Bandwagon
« Reply #81 on: January 21, 2009, 11:02:32 AM »

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Here's a shocker, Tony is 27 years old :o. He's pretty far from being one of the young bucks. The guy is a 27 year old, five year veteran. At this stage in his career, his prime, rookie mistakes are inexcusable. If Tony hasn't learned the game by now, I don't see what an extra season would do for him. Even if it did help we don't have the time to waste on him.

Re: The Tony Allen Bandwagon
« Reply #82 on: January 21, 2009, 11:13:09 AM »

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Here's a shocker, Tony is 27 years old :o. He's pretty far from being one of the young bucks. The guy is a 27 year old, five year veteran. At this stage in his career, his prime, rookie mistakes are inexcusable. If Tony hasn't learned the game by now, I don't see what an extra season would do for him. Even if it did help we don't have the time to waste on him.
You know, Manup, I completely agree with you here, TP.

Tony always gets a pass though from people who support him because of the rationale that he was hurt for the better part of two seasons so it's really like he's a three year veteran if that because he's only be truly 100% physically for a little over one year of his career.

Personally, I think that whole argument is complete and utter garbage but, my guess is that not long from now someone will be using that logic to defend Tony. He was a 4 year college player and been around and playing the better part of 5 seasons in the pros. Tony's time for making stupid sophomoric mistakes should have passed long, long ago. But it hasn't.

He still fouls jump shooters on the outside consistently.
He still dribbles into a crowd while looking at the ground.
He still has trouble switching hands on the dribble in the open court on a fast break.
He still doesn't space properly on the fast break.
He still doesn't know how to keep his dribble alive and avoid the offensive charge.
He still doesn't get some of the simplest rotations.
He still has no outside shot to speak of.
He still makes too many bad decisions that lead to turnovers.
He still isn't all that much better than he was his junior year of college.

Re: The Tony Allen Bandwagon
« Reply #83 on: January 21, 2009, 11:51:18 AM »

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We used to read the same silliness about Delonte West.

I know your not a fan of his game brick, but Dwest turned out to be a pretty good player. I think he's a 6th or 7th man outside clevland, not a starter, but he is  better than tony can ever hope to be.

I was, and still am, a huge fan of Delonte West's game.  He's a winner, as he has proven in Cleveland.  His major flaw is that he's injury prone, which is understandable the way he plays.

I've finished arguing about TA.  We have one of these threads once a month-- it's like a broken record.  I won't change the hater's minds, and they won't change mine.