ESPN: Marbury, Celtics interested in deal

[Roy Hobbs]

If Marbury is really willing to go to us for little money it tells us that he isnt as stupid as he is meant to be. He will get a huge payout (for nothing!) and jumps at the best possible chance of getting a ring when many other players would have looked at the extra million or two.

I don't know.  What team is going to commit more than the minimum to Marbury at this point?

[nickagneta]

I'm torn.  You have to think that with everything that's happened this season Marbury would accept his role on this team, shut his mouth and play his ass off when needed.  GM's can have a short memory and if he gets this right he might find a team willing to pay him to play next year.  That being said, these are rational motives and this is Stephon Marbury we're talking about.

If Marbury is really willing to go to us for little money it tells us that he isnt as stupid as he is meant to be. He will get a huge payout (for nothing!) and jumps at the best possible chance of getting a ring when many other players would have looked at the extra million or two. 

If Marbury lands us he for sure must be one of the luckiest persons in the basketball world simply because there was nothing else as good out there for free-agent-starving Celtics.  Let´s hope we get our extra big player just before the All-Stars break.  That would put us in a very strong position. I wouldnt really moan if we could clear up some of our bench just to make some trade happen either but I dont know who would want Scalabrine, Giddens and co.  Doc doesnt want them so why should they?

Actually I think Marbury is as stupid as he is made out to be because if he was smart he would have already worked out a favorable deal and been bought out of his contract and already signed with the Celtics while accepting a role as a reserve on the best team in basketball.

Instead, he's still languishing in limbo in a who can hold their breath the longest contest with the Knicks, getting paid his big time money(lest we forget this is really what it is all about for him), talking up the Celtics in a blue streak which will only start the "Celtics are tampering and cheating" crap to come out of the media soon and forcing the team mates that he wants to join to answer questions about him that they don't need to be addressing right now.

The guy is an idiot, he's greedy, he's selfish, he's self absorbed and he thinks he's a lot better at everything he does than he really is. If there was ever a guy that screamed "I'm not a Celtic" it's this guy.

I really hope Danny thinks this one through. I know the upgrade options are getting slimmer by the day but this could be an "all in" Texas Hold'em bluff that he might not want to call.

[Andy Jick]

Nor is Walsh close to releasing Marbury.

bingo!!  i don't think the guy is going to get cut...the knicks may just stick it to him and keep him on the roster.

like when jerry seinfeld wanted to return a jacket and it was refused...the reason he returned it: SPITE.

Maybe the knicks are playing the same game with mr. tatoo head.

[wdleehi]

I think Marbury is actually pretty smart in the financial terms.  I don't blame Marbury for not accepting a buyout for less then what the Knicks owe him.  He has no agent to take his money.  He is using the union's lawyers to deal with the Knicks, so he is not paying for them (accept through union dues)  Even putting his name on low priced shoes show's his understanding of money.


He is to often a moron when he opens his mouth in the public.  His mindset on the court is not a winning mindset for someone who is handed the ball and asked to run the offense.  And his ability to get along with others is just not there in the locker room. 

[QuinielaBox]

Why do we need Marbury in the 1st place?

I think we need a back up Center more than we need a backup PG. We can use Gabe Pruitt and Patrick O'Bryant (even if it means possibly losing a couple of extra games).

We have quality wins on the road against Atlanta, Detriot, and Houston.

We get a lot of blowouts at home.

We have the best starting 5 in the NBA.

What skills and attributes will Marbury bring to the table? What about his inflated ego? Can he check that at the door?

I see what a lot of you guys are saying but to repeat what others have said time and again, Marbury has played for only losing teams (Perhaps this is motivation to change).

Then again, the Knicks could be playing hardball on his buyout to prevent him from joining the Celtics in the 1st place.

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[Jon]

Why do we need Marbury in the 1st place?

I think we need a back up Center more than we need a backup PG. We can use Gabe Pruitt and Patrick O'Bryant (even if it means possibly losing a couple of extra games).

We have quality wins on the road against Atlanta, Detriot, and Houston.

We get a lot of blowouts at home.

We have the best starting 5 in the NBA.

What skills and attributes will Marbury bring to the table? What about his inflated ego? Can he check that at the door?

I see what a lot of you guys are saying but to repeat what others have said time and again, Marbury has played for only losing teams (Perhaps this is motivation to change).

Then again, the Knicks could be playing hardball on his buyout to prevent him from joining the Celtics in the 1st place.

You're somewhat right in that Marbury doesn't fill our biggest need, which is size up front.  Still, I think it's foolish for Ainge to assume he can just get size up front in the next month.  For the most part, our bench does not interest most people, so trades are unlikely.  Sure there's Antoine Walker and Joe Smith, but they don't exactly fit the bill and might not get bought out anyway.  So that leaves PJ Brown, who says he's not coming back. 

I agree; I'd prefer to have a big man over Marbury.  Still, it doesn't mean Marbury couldn't help.  He'd make the second unit more dynamic, he'd add a scoring threat, and he'd give the C's someone reliable to run the point if Rondo gets in foul trouble (or knock on wood) gets hurt.  He doesn't make Powe and Davis taller, but he does make the C's less reliant on them to score in the paint against bigger teams. 

Plus, while Marbury hasn't shown a lot to make us believe that he'd fit in, I think he has a lot of reasons to fit in.  If he comes in, plays nice, and wins a title, next year his prospects of landing a starting role and a new contract will be much better than if he goes to a bad team and puts up big numbers (like he has his whole career). 

And if he doesn't fit in?  We bench him or cut him.  It's really not a big deal.  I wouldn't let him play in game 7 of the Finals right now, but I don't see what anyone has against giving him a test drive in February.  If it works, this team can be better.  If not, no big deal. 

[soap07]

The guy is an idiot, he's greedy, he's selfish, he's self absorbed and he thinks he's a lot better at everything he does than he really is. If there was ever a guy that screamed "I'm not a Celtic" it's this guy.

I'm not sure how greedy/selfish/all the other adjectives he's being. He is rightfully owed this money by the Knicks due to a contract. What's wrong with collecting it? He came into camp supposedly in great shape and he kept up his end of the contract.

Why should he take less money and make things easier for the Knicks?


Actually I think Marbury is as stupid as he is made out to be because if he was smart he would have already worked out a favorable deal and been bought out of his contract and already signed with the Celtics while accepting a role as a reserve on the best team in basketball.

What makes you think it's impossible that he can't do both? Collect his money and then go play for the best team in basketball. Just because it's not convenient to Celtic fans doesn't mean he's being an idiot about it.

[soap07]

Reality is that this is probably not going to happen because Marbury is too stubborn and greedy and selfish to accept less than his entire contract. But what he doesn't realize is just how stubborn this Knicks ownership is.

I just don't understand this. Why should he accept less than his entire contract?

[BudweiserCeltic]

Reality is that this is probably not going to happen because Marbury is too stubborn and greedy and selfish to accept less than his entire contract. But what he doesn't realize is just how stubborn this Knicks ownership is.

I just don't understand this. Why should he accept less than his entire contract?

To be able to play, plus he can get money as a free-agent... so he really don't needs NY to pay up his full contract.

[winsomme]

The guy is an idiot, he's greedy, he's selfish, he's self absorbed and he thinks he's a lot better at everything he does than he really is. If there was ever a guy that screamed "I'm not a Celtic" it's this guy.

I'm not sure how greedy/selfish/all the other adjectives he's being. He is rightfully owed this money by the Knicks due to a contract. What's wrong with collecting it? He came into camp supposedly in great shape and he kept up his end of the contract.

Why should he take less money and make things easier for the Knicks?


Actually I think Marbury is as stupid as he is made out to be because if he was smart he would have already worked out a favorable deal and been bought out of his contract and already signed with the Celtics while accepting a role as a reserve on the best team in basketball.

What makes you think it's impossible that he can't do both? Collect his money and then go play for the best team in basketball. Just because it's not convenient to Celtic fans doesn't mean he's being an idiot about it.

the problem as i see it, soap, is Marbury wanting to be paid ALL of his money AND wanting to be released.

i don't have a problem with him wanting and getting all his money, but don't go complaining about being released if that is the case...

if he genuinely wants to be released, then take a buyout and go play elsewhere....

[soap07]

the problem as i see it, soap, is Marbury wanting to be paid ALL of his money AND wanting to be released.


I agree. My point, however, is that Marbury isn't being selfish or greedy at all in wanting his full contract. He has that right. Is he going to have to cave in a bit to play? Sure. But if he doesn't, I don't think he's being selfish or greedy.

[winsomme]

the problem as i see it, soap, is Marbury wanting to be paid ALL of his money AND wanting to be released.


I agree. My point, however, is that Marbury isn't being selfish or greedy at all in wanting his full contract. He has that right. Is he going to have to cave in a bit to play? Sure. But if he doesn't, I don't think he's being selfish or greedy.

maybe i'm wrong, but i don't think that the people claiming Marbury to be selfish/greedy are doing do because he wants to get his full contract.

i believe it is him wanting both the full money and the release....i believe that is what people are seeing as greedy/selfish...

[guava_wrench]

People view him as greedy because he has talked that way through his career. He is the guy who said a championship can't get you a billion dollars. Players sign lesser contracts all the time to play on top teams. Giving up 2 million (3 million - new contract) from an 18 million contract is not a big deal if it helps revive his reputation and marketability, while also allowing him to contribute in nationally televised games, contribute in playoff games, and possibly win a championship.

Since he seems so intent on sticking it to the Knicks, he can best do that by showing he can still perform at a high level with a division rival.

Marbury also really needs an agent or publicist he trusts who can keep him in line and tell him when to shut up.

[nickagneta]

The guy is an idiot, he's greedy, he's selfish, he's self absorbed and he thinks he's a lot better at everything he does than he really is. If there was ever a guy that screamed "I'm not a Celtic" it's this guy.

I'm not sure how greedy/selfish/all the other adjectives he's being. He is rightfully owed this money by the Knicks due to a contract. What's wrong with collecting it? He came into camp supposedly in great shape and he kept up his end of the contract.

Why should he take less money and make things easier for the Knicks?


Actually I think Marbury is as stupid as he is made out to be because if he was smart he would have already worked out a favorable deal and been bought out of his contract and already signed with the Celtics while accepting a role as a reserve on the best team in basketball.

What makes you think it's impossible that he can't do both? Collect his money and then go play for the best team in basketball. Just because it's not convenient to Celtic fans doesn't mean he's being an idiot about it.

Reality is that this is probably not going to happen because Marbury is too stubborn and greedy and selfish to accept less than his entire contract. But what he doesn't realize is just how stubborn this Knicks ownership is.

I just don't understand this. Why should he accept less than his entire contract?

You want to know why he is all those things, because he's not living up to his end of his contract. He hasn't given every bit of effort he can and lived up to his end of producing for the team that is paying him. Instead he's disgruntled, he's problematic, he's cancerous, he's a distraction, and he's done everything and anything he can to make it known that he doesn't want to be in New York.

So he's smart with his money is he people. Yeah, he's so smart with it he's almost made it so that he'll never earn any of it ever again playing basketball. His actions have completely sabotaged his future earnings potential in this game and especially in this league. That's stupid and that's not being smart about money.

You say he just trying to collect what is owed him. Yeah, he's trying to do it at the expense of not giving anything for the money he is receiving. How is that not just cheating the Knicks out of the mo0ney they are paying him? Sure they sent him home and agreed to pay him to stay away but that was after he had already made it clear that he was going to be a major sized pain in the ass and disrupt everything and anything he could with the team.

He's selfish because he wants all his money without haviong to do anything for it. In my world you should earn money. He's not earning a dime right now.

He's stupid because he's killed his future earnings potential as a brand sponsor and in playing basketball and because he's a fool when he talks in public.

He's stubborn because he could have taken a fair buyout and already been proving that he wasn't what he was being portrayed as being in NY. Instead he just continues to enhance the bad reputation that he has created.

You guys can look at things anyway you want about how he signed a contract and is due payment and should be able to get all that money and then be let go by NY because they don't want him and then he can play for whomever he wants. I look at it as a guy who is a scumbag who signed a contract and did everything he could to get as much of that contract as possible for the least amount of work. That's unethical and dumb and lazy and selfish in my book.

I only hope NY sticks it to him and forces him to sit out the whole year without playing and then he has to try to beg someone for a chance to prove himself next year and everyone black balls him.