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Re: FREE POB!
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2008, 10:20:50 AM »

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What exactly is it that people don't understand about the fact that Doc sees all these players in practice and knows exactly what these players can give this team when they get on the court? The reason deep down the end of the bench players don't get playing time is because it has been determined that they will be a detriment to the team if they get on the court.

Is that so hard to understand? Does Doc need to play every scrub that doesn't deserve minutes and lose more games simply to prove to the fans that he is making the right decisions in the first place and that 99% of the fans don't have a clue as to how to coach a professional basketball team?

Patrick O'Bryant is getting playing time because he is not that good and/or because he hasn't earned any playing time. What is so difficult to grasp about that?

Danny missed on this guy. Period. What is so difficult to grasp about that?

He's got to go. Sign Deke and lets get rid of this guy.
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Re: FREE POB!
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2008, 10:24:12 AM »

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What exactly is it that people don't understand about the fact that Doc sees all these players in practice and knows exactly what these players can give this team when they get on the court? The reason deep down the end of the bench players don't get playing time is because it has been determined that they will be a detriment to the team if they get on the court.

Is that so hard to understand? Does Doc need to play every scrub that doesn't deserve minutes and lose more games simply to prove to the fans that he is making the right decisions in the first place and that 99% of the fans don't have a clue as to how to coach a professional basketball team?

Patrick O'Bryant is getting playing time because he is not that good and/or because he hasn't earned any playing time. What is so difficult to grasp about that?

Danny missed on this guy. Period. What is so difficult to grasp about that?

He's got to go. Sign Deke and lets get rid of this guy.
Oh so true, but Danny doesn't live up to his mistakes he just forces them down his coaches throats for an entire year or two(see Gerald Green and Orien Greene).

Re: FREE POB!
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2008, 10:56:22 AM »

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O'Blount isn't the only mistake Danny made in his summer of dumpster diving. I've seen nothing to make me any less frustrated about our reward for a championship. What an awful summer he had.

There's nothing more dangerous in a GM than ego - thinking you see something in a player that no one else sees. ANY kind of due diligence whatsoever would have shown Danny that Paddy's a stiff.

And if Danny doesn't wake up, there won't be a title - or even an Eastern Conference banner.
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Re: FREE POB!
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2008, 11:11:40 AM »

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Preaching to the choir here Coach, I've been saying the same thing ever since the POB/TA/Eddie House signings. I was pushing for Matt Barnes/Roger Mason/Kurt Thomas this off season as both Danny and Doc freely and publicly admitted that the team played better when they played a non-small lineup with conventional sized players. So instead of going after players that fit that description they resign undersized, 2 guard masquerading as a PG Eddie House, undersized SF masquerading as a SG, TA and oversized accountant masquerading as an NBA talent, Patrick O'Bryant.

Of course I was told that I was just being negative and that Danny did a great job bringing in the MJ clone, Tony Allen, the best three point shooter in off the bench history, Eddie House and a project that was going to become the next Robert Parish-like, GSW-to-Boston success story in Boston Celtic history.

What was I thinking not having faith in Danny Ainge??

Re: FREE POB!
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2008, 11:12:35 AM »

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Free POB! If this game against the Warriors would have meant anything to any Player on the Celtic's Roster it would have meant everything to POB.

Perkin's out and POB never got to even step on the Warriors court.

I got to say, if I was indeed a coach and needed a little boost to my team I may look to a player that has something more to play for.

But all in all, I don't feel BBD has proved anything this season, other than that he can hit a 12ft jump shot in which I believe POB can do also.

POB was indeed a Lotto Pick and with KG I think he could develop but I also believe every player deserves a little something from the table, and if POB ever deserved to be on the Celtic's Roster he deserved a few mins to play against the Warriors.

With Perkins hurt and the Celtic's in a bind POB never seen 1 sec.

Can someone explain why we have POB if were not going to use him?
I totally agree whole heartedly with playing O'Bryant in tonights game. Matter of fact I was willing to bet he played even if Perk was playing tonight. With Perk being out, I truly dont understand why he didn't start! Powe is our offense in the 2nd unit, take him out & our 2nd unit has gotten even that much more weaker. Doc has been great all season so far, but he dropped the ball on this move. O'Bryant would not have effected our first unit at all being that he is not a scorer & he could have focused on defense & rebounding while getting easy hoops from Rondo,Garnett & Pierce when they were doubled. And Powe woulda in turn stayed in his normal role as instant energy guy of the bench & our 2nd unit could keep playing together so they can continue to gel! If he can find minutes for Scalabrine he shoulda found at least 10-12mins for Patrick tonight!

TP. I 100% agree. The 2nd unit needs an energetic Leon Powe. POB should have started just to keep the rotations correct.
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« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2008, 11:26:36 AM »

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POB may not be Deke or Camby, but he is still very young and could be developed.

But your not going to have a rose garden without watering it.

In fact the warriors game was prob more or less meaningless.
Had I been the coach, I would have give POB prob 15 mins last night.

I would have found out last night, Whether POB had there fire it takes to play the game or not and also cut the mins of The Big 3 a tad.

If POB never lived up to the game I could have still rested my players a bit for the road trip.


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« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2008, 11:33:54 AM »

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POB may not be Deke or Camby, but he is still very young and could be developed.

But your not going to have a rose garden without watering it.

In fact the warriors game was prob more or less meaningless.
Had I been the coach, I would have give POB prob 15 mins last night.

I would have found out last night, Whether POB had there fire it takes to play the game or not and also cut the mins of The Big 3 a tad.

If POB never lived up to the game I could have still rested my players a bit for the road trip.


And if you were the coach you may have lost the confidence of your entire roster who know that each and every one of them deserve playing time before POB. You just can not give minutes to players that do not deserve the playing time. players have to earn their PT not be given gifts to appease fans who think that they know more than the coaches on the sidelines.

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« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2008, 11:56:24 AM »

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POB may not be Deke or Camby, but he is still very young and could be developed.

But your not going to have a rose garden without watering it.

In fact the warriors game was prob more or less meaningless.
Had I been the coach, I would have give POB prob 15 mins last night.

I would have found out last night, Whether POB had there fire it takes to play the game or not and also cut the mins of The Big 3 a tad.

If POB never lived up to the game I could have still rested my players a bit for the road trip.


And if you were the coach you may have lost the confidence of your entire roster who know that each and every one of them deserve playing time before POB. You just can not give minutes to players that do not deserve the playing time. players have to earn their PT not be given gifts to appease fans who think that they know more than the coaches on the sidelines.

I don't think starting POB, due to an injury, is any worse than Scal starting when KG was out last year.
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Re: FREE POB!
« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2008, 11:59:41 AM »

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POB may not be Deke or Camby, but he is still very young and could be developed.

But your not going to have a rose garden without watering it.

In fact the warriors game was prob more or less meaningless.
Had I been the coach, I would have give POB prob 15 mins last night.

I would have found out last night, Whether POB had there fire it takes to play the game or not and also cut the mins of The Big 3 a tad.

If POB never lived up to the game I could have still rested my players a bit for the road trip.


And if you were the coach you may have lost the confidence of your entire roster who know that each and every one of them deserve playing time before POB. You just can not give minutes to players that do not deserve the playing time. players have to earn their PT not be given gifts to appease fans who think that they know more than the coaches on the sidelines.

I don't think starting POB, due to an injury, is any worse than Scal starting when KG was out last year.

Why not? Scal is a legit NBA player, although a fairly bad one. POB is an embarrassment. His foul on Oden was something that should have left ashamed every basketball fan.

Re: FREE POB!
« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2008, 12:03:30 PM »

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If the C's cut Scals today, I don't think he'd get signed by any other team.
Once you are labeled 'the best' you want to stay up there, and you can't do it by loafing around.
 
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Re: FREE POB!
« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2008, 12:05:48 PM »

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face it...POB is the Kandiman with less hair.

would you honestly want him on this roster today? 





















didn't think so...
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« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2008, 12:10:36 PM »

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If the C's cut Scals today, I don't think he'd get signed by any other team.
You are so wrong it isn't funny. He'd get picked up quick. He wouldn't get the money Danny was stupid enough to give him, but he is better than most #8 and #9 men on NBA rosters today. Someone would grab him up quick.

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« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2008, 12:36:16 PM »

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If the C's cut Scals today, I don't think he'd get signed by any other team.
You are so wrong it isn't funny. He'd get picked up quick. He wouldn't get the money Danny was stupid enough to give him, but he is better than most #8 and #9 men on NBA rosters today. Someone would grab him up quick.

Wrong? We won't know unless he gets cut, so we'll just disagree. I basing my opinion on how guys like Luke Jackson, Smush Parker, Mateen Cleaves, Casey Jacobsen, and Michael Doleac can't get a shot. And if Scal did get signed, he'd play the Jack Haley/Paul Shirley 12th man role on his new team.
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« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2008, 12:43:41 PM »

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If the C's cut Scals today, I don't think he'd get signed by any other team.
You are so wrong it isn't funny. He'd get picked up quick. He wouldn't get the money Danny was stupid enough to give him, but he is better than most #8 and #9 men on NBA rosters today. Someone would grab him up quick.

Wrong? We won't know unless he gets cut, so we'll just disagree. I basing my opinion on how guys like Luke Jackson, Smush Parker, Mateen Cleaves, Casey Jacobsen, and Michael Doleac can't get a shot. And if Scal did get signed, he'd play the Jack Haley/Paul Shirley 12th man role on his new team.

Still better than what POB would get.

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« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2008, 01:53:47 PM »

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So how do we come to the conclusion that he is terrible in defence and looks lost when he has seen practically no minutes on the floor?

Watching him. It took me like 10 minutes in a couple of games for the Warriors. It's painfully evident.


Rondo looked horrible at times as did Perk both developed well with competitive minutes. I do however admire your ability to assess a first round draft pick in ten minutes - it's a unique ability.

Besides this are you guys saying Scal deserves to play as much as he does. IMHO scal is the worst player with minutes in the NBA in the last few years.

It is amazing how many people are willing to write off a player they have never really watched. I say give him some minutes if he fails tomake an impression det rid of him. But lets not base our assessment on mob mentality