Should we go for Stephon Marbury?

[SShorefan 3.0]

maybe we could trade Ray Allen for him?

[crownsy]

Why are the reporters claiming that Celtics are one of the teams interested in acquiring Marbury? There has to be some truth in it right? Personally, I'd love to have him. now that he doesn't get along with Q richardson and the rest of the knicks, i'm sure he'd love to play with pierce against the knicks.

and how do you feel about his very public and very personal dislike of KG and the way he was handled in minn?

[Emperor Young]

Why are the reporters claiming that Celtics are one of the teams interested in acquiring Marbury? There has to be some truth in it right? Personally, I'd love to have him. now that he doesn't get along with Q richardson and the rest of the knicks, i'm sure he'd love to play with pierce against the knicks.

and how do you feel about his very public and very personal dislike of KG and the way he was handled in minn?

We don't know the dynamics of marbury and KG's relationship. I'm just saying, i think he can still play. if they sign him and things don't work, they can release him.. the only reason why i wouldn't want him is that it might regress Rondo's growth..
besides, this is ultimatly Danny's decision. I'm just curious as to why reports indicate that we are one of the teams interested in his services if we aren't intrested at all??

[moiso]

He has never actually helped a team win basketball games and that's never going to change.

[Birdbrain]

Well let's be fair he wouldn't be here to lead a team to wins.  He'll be nothing more than a bench player providing some scoring off the bench and he would allow House to play SG full time.   

[crownsy]

Well let's be fair he wouldn't be here to lead a team to wins.  He'll be nothing more than a bench player providing some scoring off the bench and he would allow House to play SG full time.   

and knowing what we all know of steph's opnion of his place in the league, his skills, and his past history with his mouth and actions, you think he's going to be happy backing up a 22 year old off the bench?

Color me skeptical

[mikeford]

Nah, I wouldn't wanna get into a bidding war with the Rucker Park League teams for his services.

[Emperor Young]

Well let's be fair he wouldn't be here to lead a team to wins.  He'll be nothing more than a bench player providing some scoring off the bench and he would allow House to play SG full time.   

and knowing what we all know of steph's opnion of his place in the league, his skills, and his past history with his mouth and actions, you think he's going to be happy backing up a 22 year old off the bench?

Color me skeptical

I agree with you, he's not going to be happy. Having said that, wherever he ends up, he is probably gonna be a back up anyway. he's not starting over Kidd, Parker or Rondo.. maybe he can start for miami but who knows?

[crownsy]

Well let's be fair he wouldn't be here to lead a team to wins.  He'll be nothing more than a bench player providing some scoring off the bench and he would allow House to play SG full time.   

and knowing what we all know of steph's opnion of his place in the league, his skills, and his past history with his mouth and actions, you think he's going to be happy backing up a 22 year old off the bench?

Color me skeptical

I agree with you, he's not going to be happy. Having said that, wherever he ends up, he is probably gonna be a back up anyway. he's not starting over Kidd, Parker or Rondo.. maybe he can start for miami but who knows?

but he quits on teams when he's not happy, he's known for it, so why get him of your us if he's just going to quit and be a cancer.

[moiso]

Well let's be fair he wouldn't be here to lead a team to wins.  He'll be nothing more than a bench player providing some scoring off the bench and he would allow House to play SG full time.   

true but he hasn't been asked to lead the knicks to wins the last couple of years, either.  If the knicks thought he could contribute as a role player, he would be playing right now.

[Chris]

Well let's be fair he wouldn't be here to lead a team to wins.  He'll be nothing more than a bench player providing some scoring off the bench and he would allow House to play SG full time.   

and knowing what we all know of steph's opnion of his place in the league, his skills, and his past history with his mouth and actions, you think he's going to be happy backing up a 22 year old off the bench?

Color me skeptical

I agree with you, he's not going to be happy. Having said that, wherever he ends up, he is probably gonna be a back up anyway. he's not starting over Kidd, Parker or Rondo.. maybe he can start for miami but who knows?

but he quits on teams when he's not happy, he's known for it, so why get him of your us if he's just going to quit and be a cancer.

Well, I think the chances of him being a "Cancer" are mitigated by the fact that he would only be signed to a vet minimum deal, and could be cut at the first sign of trouble.

I also think that it is not outside the realm of possibility that a player like that could stay in line for 6 months, especially on a team with the character of the Celtics.  I wouldn't sign him long term, but on a short "make good" contract, where he is motivated to prove he deserves another contract next year, he could certainly play nice. 

Just look at Manny Ramirez, who is very similar to Marbury (nice guy, but with the maturity of an 8 year old, who throws tantrums, and breaks up clubhouses), and became a completely different person for the stretch run in LA.

Ultimately though, I think the question of whether to sign Marbury comes down to what the deal is with Cassell.  I am convinced that they feel Cassell has plenty in the tank to be the return to his old form for a couple months at the end of the season and the playoffs, and they are just keeping him rested until then.  If they determine that he doesn't have anything left, I would absolutely look at bringing in Marbury, to help solidify the offense off the bench, which has been a concern for this team at times.

[Mogreen17]

A few weeks ago I had this crazy thought.. maybe Boston should sign Marbury if he's bought out.  I mean on a team full of veteran stars there is no way that he could cause a distraction and if he did they could release him in a heart beat.  But over the past few weeks he proved to me he'll never fall in line even on Boston.  I say pass even though he could provide a spark off the bench in certain situations.  I'm all for 2nd chances but, like Alfred said in the Dark Knight

" They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn "

hahaha love quote. love the movie. TP buddy

[Emperor Young]

Well let's be fair he wouldn't be here to lead a team to wins.  He'll be nothing more than a bench player providing some scoring off the bench and he would allow House to play SG full time.   

and knowing what we all know of steph's opnion of his place in the league, his skills, and his past history with his mouth and actions, you think he's going to be happy backing up a 22 year old off the bench?

Color me skeptical

I agree with you, he's not going to be happy. Having said that, wherever he ends up, he is probably gonna be a back up anyway. he's not starting over Kidd, Parker or Rondo.. maybe he can start for miami but who knows?

but he quits on teams when he's not happy, he's known for it, so why get him of your us if he's just going to quit and be a cancer.

Well, I think the chances of him being a "Cancer" are mitigated by the fact that he would only be signed to a vet minimum deal, and could be cut at the first sign of trouble.

I also think that it is not outside the realm of possibility that a player like that could stay in line for 6 months, especially on a team with the character of the Celtics.  I wouldn't sign him long term, but on a short "make good" contract, where he is motivated to prove he deserves another contract next year, he could certainly play nice. 

Just look at Manny Ramirez, who is very similar to Marbury (nice guy, but with the maturity of an 8 year old, who throws tantrums, and breaks up clubhouses), and became a completely different person for the stretch run in LA.

Ultimately though, I think the question of whether to sign Marbury comes down to what the deal is with Cassell.  I am convinced that they feel Cassell has plenty in the tank to be the return to his old form for a couple months at the end of the season and the playoffs, and they are just keeping him rested until then.  If they determine that he doesn't have anything left, I would absolutely look at bringing in Marbury, to help solidify the offense off the bench, which has been a concern for this team at times.

TP for you. My thoughts exactly. Nobody wants him here long term. come playoff time, you never know what could happen and he can still put up solid numbers. Marbury over cassell, if we can manage his behavior on and off the court it wouldn't hurt

[TripleThreat]

Well let's be fair he wouldn't be here to lead a team to wins.  He'll be nothing more than a bench player providing some scoring off the bench and he would allow House to play SG full time.   

and knowing what we all know of steph's opnion of his place in the league, his skills, and his past history with his mouth and actions, you think he's going to be happy backing up a 22 year old off the bench?

Color me skeptical

I agree with you, he's not going to be happy. Having said that, wherever he ends up, he is probably gonna be a back up anyway. he's not starting over Kidd, Parker or Rondo.. maybe he can start for miami but who knows?

but he quits on teams when he's not happy, he's known for it, so why get him of your us if he's just going to quit and be a cancer.

Well, I think the chances of him being a "Cancer" are mitigated by the fact that he would only be signed to a vet minimum deal, and could be cut at the first sign of trouble.

I also think that it is not outside the realm of possibility that a player like that could stay in line for 6 months, especially on a team with the character of the Celtics.  I wouldn't sign him long term, but on a short "make good" contract, where he is motivated to prove he deserves another contract next year, he could certainly play nice. 

Just look at Manny Ramirez, who is very similar to Marbury (nice guy, but with the maturity of an 8 year old, who throws tantrums, and breaks up clubhouses), and became a completely different person for the stretch run in LA.

Ultimately though, I think the question of whether to sign Marbury comes down to what the deal is with Cassell.  I am convinced that they feel Cassell has plenty in the tank to be the return to his old form for a couple months at the end of the season and the playoffs, and they are just keeping him rested until then.  If they determine that he doesn't have anything left, I would absolutely look at bringing in Marbury, to help solidify the offense off the bench, which has been a concern for this team at times.

Excellent post Chris. I think the Celtics organization is watching the situation closely in New York with the potential buyout. Marbury is a very talented basketball player who has had his fair share of drama. The Ramirez example was a good example, but how about Randy Moss? Corey Dillon? They didn't have great reputations before they signed with New England but winning is contagious, and so is a winning atitude. Would I give him a chance to play the rest of the season out with the Boston Celtics? I'd say yes except I don't know what you do about the full roster situation.

[nickagneta]

Whenever adding any player to a team that is already running smoothly to the tune of a near.900 winning percentage, a team GM needs to ask a few questions.

1.) Does this player's strengths and possible contributions outweigh his weaknesses and possible mistakes he will make?

2.) Does this player fit into the needs that the team has at this time?

3.) Will the addition of this player in any way hurt the chemistry within the team dynamic?

4.) Can this player get along with personally the players that are currently on the team?

5.) Does this player carry a lot of baggage and bad history elsewhere?

The answers here are

1.) Maybe.
2.) No.
3.) Very possible.
4.) Quite possibly no.
5.) Hell yes.

I just don't see when one answers such questions that one can be blinded by Marbury's talent and ignore the peripherals that he brings to a team. He would only take away from thye overall efficacy of this team and add almost nothing that we don't already have.