What Danny gave POB was cheap change, stop making a big deal out of it.
Since we're throwing accusations around, whose to say that Danny didn't offer anything to Matt Barnes? Is there some evidence of that? Could it be possible that he wanted to play more in Phoenix? I don't know, but if there's some article that says particularly that Danny never considered nor made an offer to him, let me know... I don't remember reading one. I for one would've loved to have Barnes, and got mad at not getting him for the league min. But with that said, I don't remember reading that Ainge had no interest in him. Even so, I remember some strong sentiments against the guy from some posters here.
Also, signing POB wouldn't have prevented signing some wing like Barnes, so I don't see the "either or" scenarios you're talking about as it concerns POB.
As I said before, POB is more of adding depth to the position more than looking for a suitable back-up. Right after signing the dude, Ainge still felt he needed to get more help for the position. So, that POB is "falling down the charts" tells me nothing as far as a "miscalculation from Ainge" goes.
I really don't understand all these "sky is falling" posts as it concerns our bench. From what I've seen, the bench are the ones that have kept us in games or gotten us back in games so far. Most of our problems have come with our starters on the floor. And I know "we" all want to put blame on the Tony's and the POB's, but our main problem (as far as bench goes) has come from the PG position. Yes, I'm looking at you House...
My scenarios are just things to keep in mind about how things could have been done differently.
See, that's the main point of everything... when, not necessarily you, but certainly plenty of people here ACCUSE Danny of doing a poor job signing free-agent players and foregoing others. They put the BLAME on him, when it's a two way decision between player and the organizations (needless to say the instructions that might be given from the owners).
It simply irks me that people come up with all these possible scenarios of what could've been, while putting the blame on Danny for them not being so.
Just like it would irk you when people blame Doc for some coaching decisions that might be out of his control (I know it does to me), and you call people out on them. I'm calling out people that do accuse Danny of "dumpster diving" and such without contemplating the circumstances of why some decisions were made.
I mean, I was one of the bigger supporters in trying to bring Barnes here, and as I said, it made me quite mad that we couldn't sign him for the league minimum. Even so, I just can't put the blame on Danny for this one... I'm quite positive that were quite a few other teams interested in him especially for the league minimum, sadly he can only choose one. So, until I read somewhere of Danny not persuing someone (as I think he did with Devean George), I think it's kinda pointless to bring up a particular situation and put "blame" on someone for the result of it without having some an abundance of information, regardless if you feel this is all your opinion.
I feel the same way about the phantom accusations that always go around... Pierce's gang signs for one, and his heavy partying during the summer for another. I've always been a believer of innocent until proven guilty, and it applies to everything I argue against.
But as you say, this is simply MY opinion on matters on how people percieve them and argue them.
TP4U Budweiser for understanding the rant. And I agree, I don't think it's fair to call Ainge names or put down the job he did, we don't know all the circumstances behind everything. I just think he might have been able to do better. BTW, yeah Barnes not here bugged me too. This summer, before the signing period began, I was advocating Roger Mason, Kurt Thomas and Barnes if it was financially possible rather than Posey, Eddie and Tony as some wanted.
It's early on POB and he could still show something. But if I was looking at him as a first round draft pick and thinking he Walker, and Giddens were all rookies just coming in, I would have a problem with Danny using a first rounder on him judging by what I have seen thus far. And that is all I am judging him on for now. I saw Walker and Pruitt play in college so I know their game some and like those picks. I see Giddens has the tools but just is not used to the speed of the mental aspect so far. I don't see the tools so far with O'Bryant.
I'm with you in probably there being a scenario of us being better... but I guess most of our difference of opinion has little to do with POB, but more with Tony Allen and what you feel he brings to the team and to various positions.
I simply don't see how people wouldn't like the POB pick-up when you put it in the right context. I really don't believe he was signed to be our main back-up, and I draw this conclusions with Ainge's comments right after he signed him. It's an easily movable contract, and it's cheap change... 1.6 million or whatever is really nothing when you consider the comparables (and I consider the luxury tax pretty much a sunk cost). Now, if POB doesn't improve throughout the season, and Danny goes to the playoffs without addressing the C need, then I'll be the first to call out Danny. As it stands, it's too early in the season to consider wether or not Danny dropped the ball. It's simply too early, no matter how you cut it especially considering how our team has been playing so far.
But as far as I'm concerned, Danny signed the guy at a cheap value with the hopes of some improvement to be a serviceable player...if he along the season shows he can handle the back-up role, then great, if he doesn't, I couldn't care less about it, because he's really a non-issue. Simply a small investment that may or may not flourish.
I also was one of the main supporters of Danny forgetting about Posey soon and not dragging the decision, even so I can't blame him for doing so. It might have cost us a somewhat better player than what we currently have, but I think the impact is too marginal for me to even care. There were few impact players available that we could've had for me to not be fairly content with our current situation as it regards this early season.
What do we have to look forward to? The development of all our projects through the season and wether one or any or none of them pan out. What we have to look forward to, an abundance of decent players that can play at the NBA level with easily tradable contracts. What we have to look forward to, is the portion of the MLE that we haven't used yet to attract some veteran during the season if needed be.
Now, Danny's job is not done yet... as many times before, I'll simply wait and see how things go. When action is needed and he doesn't come through for us then I'll start calling him out, but for now, I don't see much reason to be whining and moaning this early in the season.