Who Will the Red Sox Target for 08/09 FA? Who Will They Trade?

[CelticPride]

You do realize JD Drew's OBP was over 400 last year right?

[Chris]

Lugo for Byrnes being discussed:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=3761748&type=blogEntry

Byrnes contract is worse then Lugo's, but he is a better player.  I wouldnt mind that deal at all.

Interesting.  I think that would be a good deal for both teams.  Boston replaces a guy who doesn't fill a need and has a big contract with a guy who does fill a need and has a big contract. 

I also always got the feeling that Byrnes personality would fit in well in Boston.  He is kind of a Kevin Millar type...although I don't think he is quite an idiot.

You do realize JD Drew's OBP was over 400 last year right?

JD Drew is a hell of a player...when he is healthy.  Unfortunately, because he is only healthy for about 3/4 of the time (and that might be generous), it is essential that they bring in someone like Byrnes.

[Big_Matt34]

well then lowell or ortiz. Prob lowell. Its too bad texeira can't play outfield then it would be easier to ship jason "can't hit offspeed" bay

You're problem with Jason Bay is ridiculous, the Red Sox obviously really like him and i would think you'd trust their judgement by now. You can talk about his problems hitting curveballs all you want but it doesnt change the fact that he hit .286 with 31 homers and 101 RBI's while walking 81 times and having a .900 OPS. I think it's very likely that at some point this season they sign him to a longterm deal, not trade him in a deal for Holliday like you have claimed many times. If the Red Sox wanted Holliday they would have traded for him, but it seems they like many of us here prefer Bay.

It is obviously going to be Lowell that they trade if Texiera is signed, not Ortiz. The Red Sox have put it out there that Lowell would be available and there are teams who have interest in trading for him. I don't really know what teams would want Lowell, maybe the Twins and a few others but i can't imagine getting alot back for him.

[Big_Matt34]

I am a big fan of the LUgo for Byrnes swap, Byrnes played with torn hamstrings nearly all of last year but in 2007 he hit .286 with 21 homers and 50 steals on 57 attempts. He would be one heck of a 4th outfielder and the fans would love him because of his playing style, all out all the time.

[Cman]

Lugo for Byrnes being discussed:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=3761748&type=blogEntry

Byrnes contract is worse then Lugo's, but he is a better player.  I wouldnt mind that deal at all.

I like it.  Byrnes was a fan favorite in the Bay Area (before he went to AZ).  He is the type of player that Boston fans would love. 

[crownsy]

You do realize JD Drew's OBP was over 400 last year right?

which would be awesome if he wasen't made of glass. My problem isn't with JD on the field, its how often nagging injuries others play through keep him off it. See that bad back that kept him out nearly 2 months that at one point, 3 games before he came back he told the globe "its odd, some days it will go 2-3 days without hurting, and then one day it will get tight"

sounds like a typical JD "well, i could play but i won't" injury.

[Nerf DPOY]

I would have been thrilled had the Sox landed Sabathia, but see merit in the arguments made against him ( except for the playoff choking, as it's a very small sample size from a guy who probably wasn't at his peak from having overworked his arm getting his team into the playoffs ). I realize that the road of terrible MLB contracts is paved with washed out/up starting pitchers, and their is an incredible amount of risk in locking up an ace long term. That being said, if I were a Yankee fan, I'd thoroughly approve of doing whatever it took to get this guy.

Since the Sox have a dedication to being an elite team year in/year out without committing a huge sum of money to a top FA SP, I now more than ever am against trading a top pitching prospect for one of the Rangers backstops. None of them. I'm more for trotting out a worn down Tek, or even Brown/ Kottaras, than I am for parting with any of Bowden/Buch/Hagadone/ or Tazawa. Given the fragility combined with the importance of the position, I like strength in numbers.

Besides, should we sign Teixeira as rumored, a healthy Lowrie will be batting 8th for crying out loud. We can bury a weak hitting catcher at the bottom of the order and still have the best offense in the majors.

[Chris]

You do realize JD Drew's OBP was over 400 last year right?

which would be awesome if he wasen't made of glass. My problem isn't with JD on the field, its how often nagging injuries others play through keep him off it. See that bad back that kept him out nearly 2 months that at one point, 3 games before he came back he told the globe "its odd, some days it will go 2-3 days without hurting, and then one day it will get tight"

sounds like a typical JD "well, i could play but i won't" injury.

I agree that he is fragile, but as someone who has had back issues, I completely understand that when you hurt it (particularly a disk issue), you absolultely do not want to push it until you go about a week pain-free, or else you will most like set yourself back a long time.

[Big_Matt34]

Sox have supposedly offered Texiera a 8 year deal for about 20 million a year according to Gordon Edes and Yahoo. I really want them to get this done soon.

Re-signing the switch-hitting first baseman has been the Angels’ top offseason priority, but they are balking at offering more than a seven-year deal and have been told that the Boston Red Sox and Washington Nationals each have offered an eighth year at about $20 million a year. Baltimore Orioles are in the mix as well, and the New York Yankees reportedly have sent out feelers on Teixeira.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ti-teixeiranegotiations121108&prov=yhoo&type=lgns&expire=1

[Mean Gerald Green]

Unless the Sox get somebody fairly good in return, I wouldn't trade Mike Lowell.  With all the injuries last season, the bench was an absolute mess by the end of the year.  I don't want to see the Sox repeat that.  Between 1B, 3B, DH, and RF (for Youks) it's certainly possible to get all involved a healthy number of at bats.

If Lowell is ok staying on as a bench player, that adds amazing depth to our team. He's a class act and a terrific lockerroom presence. However, if he feels like he wants to play everyday I'd hope the Theo and co. would treat him with the respect he deserves.

[Atzar]

Lugo for Byrnes being discussed:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=3761748&type=blogEntry

Byrnes contract is worse then Lugo's, but he is a better player.  I wouldnt mind that deal at all.

I like it.  Byrnes was a fan favorite in the Bay Area (before he went to AZ).  He is the type of player that Boston fans would love. 

Not to mention that Byrnes is only one year removed from near All-Star numbers.  I'll take it.

[yall hate]

Report: Sox make offer to Kawakami
Link|Comments (0) Posted by Chris Forsberg, Boston.com Staff December 12, 2008 09:29 PM

From the Globe's Daigo Fujiwara:

Nikkan Sports, one of Tokyo's biggest daily sports/entertainment newspaper, is reporting that Red Sox have offered Kenshin Kawakami a 3-year, $21-million deal.

The report appeared in Saturday morning's edition of Nikkan Sports.

Dan Evans reportedly said that he discussed 28 teams about Kawakami, and was quoted as saying "It is now up to Kawakami." Nikkan notes that the offer seems to be higher than other teams.

Kenshin has 257-112 career record with a 3.22 ERA in 11 years as a member of Chunichi Dragons. He has won 1998 Rookie of the Year, 2004 Central League MVP, led the league with most wins in 2004 and 2006, lead the league with most strikeouts in 2006, and won the Sawamura Award (Japanese equibarlant of Cy) in 2004. His best pitch is a cut-fastball.

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/


Seems like a lot a lot for him.  I would think he projects as either a bullpen piece or the 5th starter.  7 mill a year is a lot for either of those roles.

[Redz]

Lugo for Byrnes being discussed:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print?id=3761748&type=blogEntry

Byrnes contract is worse then Lugo's, but he is a better player.  I wouldnt mind that deal at all.

I like it.  Byrnes was a fan favorite in the Bay Area (before he went to AZ).  He is the type of player that Boston fans would love. 

Not to mention that Byrnes is only one year removed from near All-Star numbers.  I'll take it.

Byrnes is pretty seriously damaged goods at this point. He might mend up, but I wouldn't count on much from him this season. 

[yall hate]

Report: Sox make offer to Kawakami
Link|Comments (0) Posted by Chris Forsberg, Boston.com Staff December 12, 2008 09:29 PM

From the Globe's Daigo Fujiwara:

Nikkan Sports, one of Tokyo's biggest daily sports/entertainment newspaper, is reporting that Red Sox have offered Kenshin Kawakami a 3-year, $21-million deal.

The report appeared in Saturday morning's edition of Nikkan Sports.

Dan Evans reportedly said that he discussed 28 teams about Kawakami, and was quoted as saying "It is now up to Kawakami." Nikkan notes that the offer seems to be higher than other teams.

Kenshin has 257-112 career record with a 3.22 ERA in 11 years as a member of Chunichi Dragons. He has won 1998 Rookie of the Year, 2004 Central League MVP, led the league with most wins in 2004 and 2006, lead the league with most strikeouts in 2006, and won the Sawamura Award (Japanese equibarlant of Cy) in 2004. His best pitch is a cut-fastball.

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/


Seems like a lot a lot for him.  I would think he projects as either a bullpen piece or the 5th starter.  7 mill a year is a lot for either of those roles.

nevermind.  They cant figure out whats going on.

No Sox offer to Kawakami
Link|Comments (0) Posted by Amalie Benjamin, Globe Staff December 12, 2008 10:16 PM

According to a baseball source, the report by Nikkan Sports that the Sox have a three-year, $21 million offer out to Japanese pitcher Kenshin Kawakami is not accurate. The Sox apparently have not made an offer to Kawakami.

[Tr1boy]

Redsox offered 20 for 8?? I doubt that texeira will like hearing such figures very much.

No offense to epstein and the rest of the redsox management but they are one frugal team