WEEI Reporting Darius Miles to the Celtics

[BigAlTheFuture]

Not a big fan of the signing at all.


Well, let's hope he can live up to his potential. I hope it's an unguaranteed contract.

[amenhotep04]

I think it's Danny trying to have all the NBA players from Van Wilder eventually suit up in Celtics uniforms.

Not crazy about the deal, but what the heck, nothing ventured, nothing gained.

[Steve Weinman]

The biggest upside here: Making my best friend - a huge Blazers fan - absolutely miserable.

-sw

[BigThreePeat]

The thing with Miles is...  I have seen this guy legitimately dominate games before.  At one point he was probably the best player the Jailblazers had.   He hasn't played for a couple years, but just go ahead and scan over the gamelog of the last year he played:  http://www.basketball-reference.com/fc/pgl.cgi?player=milesda01&year=2006

How about the first game of that season... against his KG (his idol):  32 points, 11 rebounds, 5 assists, 5 steals, 3 blocks.

I seem to think that if they have had this guy in for workouts TWICE and they are impressed enough with him that they are willing to wait out a 10 game suspension... there must be something they are seeing.

I'm 100% for this.

[Celtic Justice]

I really wasn't expecting Miles to sign with the C's if this is true.  So now 10mil counts on the cap of Portland right?

only if he plays 10 games with the Cs... but i believe he first has to serve a 10 game suspension for what was rumored to be steroids of some form (i'm sure to help with his recovery).

it wasn't a steroid, it was a dietary suppliment used to lose weight.

[BigThreePeat]

The thing with Miles is...  I have seen this guy legitimately dominate games before.  At one point he was probably the best player the Jailblazers had.   He hasn't played for a couple years, but just go ahead and scan over the gamelog of the last year he played:  http://www.basketball-reference.com/fc/pgl.cgi?player=milesda01&year=2006

How about the first game of that season... against his KG (his idol):  32 points, 11 rebounds, 5 assists, 5 steals, 3 blocks.

I seem to think that if they have had this guy in for workouts TWICE and they are impressed enough with him that they are willing to wait out a 10 game suspension... there must be something they are seeing.

I'm 100% for this.

Just to keep the board vibe consistent.  I know at least half of you were Sebastian Telfair apologists prior to the season he played for us.   Half of you kept referencing the fact "he is so young" and that he "played for the wrong system" and "it was a cancerous team situation on the jailblazers" and were ready to give the guy another chance.  I know at least half of you had this mindset.   Stand up so we can see you.... ok... good...   You guys officially can't knock the Darius Miles signing.     He was about 4 times the player Telfair was and you can just use the same excuses.

I'm excited to see what this guy can do in a legitimate system with class A staff and teammates.  He's on a championship franchise now.  We'll see if all that can rub off on him and if working closely with his idol can turn him around.

Personally, I think the only thing stopping Miles from being a contributor next year is his health.  If he's as healthy as he was pre-injury, he'll be a fantastic addition. 

[Roy Hobbs]

If he's as healthy as he was pre-injury, he'll be a fantastic addition. 

Well, right.  However, both the Blazers' team doctor and an NBA staff physician determined his injury to be career-ending.  I think the chances of him being as healthy as he was pre-injury are pretty much zero.  We just need to hope that he's healthy enough to play basketball at a remotely competent level.

[JR Giddens]

Im so happy. I've waited since July 12th for them to sign Miles. 

[BudweiserCeltic]

Non-guaranteed contract... this is a very good signing.

[guava_wrench]

I really wasn't expecting Miles to sign with the C's if this is true.  So now 10mil counts on the cap of Portland right?

only if he plays 10 games with the Cs... but i believe he first has to serve a 10 game suspension for what was rumored to be steroids of some form (i'm sure to help with his recovery).

interesting to say the least... is he really better than Brandon Wallace at this point? Probably, but like Maestro, i'll let this sink in a little.

Has Brandon Wallace played a second yet in the NBA? I can't even remember if he was even on the active roster for any games.

We know Wallace doesn't have much to offer, and we know that Miles was a legit NBA player before this injury. The only way we can judge Miles' recovery is by watching him play. If you haven't seen him play in his workouts, what are you basing your opinion on?

Good move because it will probably not cost much, and the potential payout is big. He is better than an empty roster spot.

The deal will be even better if the contract is not guaranteed, but that would probably only happen if no one else had any interest.

[BigThreePeat]

Just checking out the RealGM Portland board.  Interesting from the other perspective.

Here are some thoughts from a poster named Wizenheimer that I found interesting:

First of all, I'm thinking that Ainge is holding a grudge against KP and the Blazers. KP flummoxed him in the telfair trade, and then the blazers leapfrogged the Celts and landed Oden. I think Ainge has been on a slow boil about that for a couple of years. He also...IIRC...left portland on somewhat poor terms back in his playing days, and had a couple of unflattering things to say back then. So this may be his "revenge is a dish best tasted cold" moment.

The next thing will be if Miles can survive a training camp and exhibition season. It will be interesting to see how much he actually participates.

Then, it's going to be real interesting to see what the reaction will be from KP and the blazer management. . Will they challenge the CBA considering that section of the rules has never been tested before? After all, they went through all the CBA mandated procedures in apparent good faith.

And if Miles does play, the blazers will have to explain that fact in comparison to all their assessments otherwise. They will have lost not only the cap-space, but also the opportunity to leverage Miles's expiring contract into something.

[bostonfan23]

LR/HR signing. I hope we can screw the Blazers over.

[wdleehi]

Just checking out the RealGM Portland board.  Interesting from the other perspective.

Here are some thoughts from a poster named Wizenheimer that I found interesting:

First of all, I'm thinking that Ainge is holding a grudge against KP and the Blazers. KP flummoxed him in the telfair trade, and then the blazers leapfrogged the Celts and landed Oden. I think Ainge has been on a slow boil about that for a couple of years. He also...IIRC...left portland on somewhat poor terms back in his playing days, and had a couple of unflattering things to say back then. So this may be his "revenge is a dish best tasted cold" moment.

The next thing will be if Miles can survive a training camp and exhibition season. It will be interesting to see how much he actually participates.

Then, it's going to be real interesting to see what the reaction will be from KP and the blazer management. . Will they challenge the CBA considering that section of the rules has never been tested before? After all, they went through all the CBA mandated procedures in apparent good faith.

And if Miles does play, the blazers will have to explain that fact in comparison to all their assessments otherwise. They will have lost not only the cap-space, but also the opportunity to leverage Miles's expiring contract into something.

Can you go remind that fool that those two transactions lead to KG, which lead to the title.


No one holds a grudge against Portland.







I think Walker is off to overseas for one year.  The Celtics need an open roster spot to add the vet big man they are looking for.

[cordobes]

Ugh...

Too many unproven and potential players in this roster to my taste. I suppose we're talking about an unguaranteed contract, right?

Eh, I see no problem with it, considering what else was out there this summer.  I would rather they take a chance on a guy like Miles with a contract they can just buyout if it doesn't work out, but who could potentially be a top notch role player if he is healthy, than bringing in a veteran, who you know is going to be mediocre.

They can always find a way to get a mediocre veteran during the season, they might as well see if they can hit a homerun first.

Sure, I can see your point. But there were some better than mediocre veterans out there in the FA market - guys like Thomas, James Jones, even Elson or Pietrus or Delfino, etc. The problem is that if these gambles don't work, we'll only have truly mediocre veterans available to sign and fill the bench.

Anyway, if this is a non-guaranteed contract, I have no problem at all with this signing.

On Walter going overseas: I don't see that happening until Miles proves them he's healthy and still good enough to contribute. What if Walker signs for an overseas team and Miles is cut after the training camp?

[guava_wrench]

Just checking out the RealGM Portland board.  Interesting from the other perspective.

Here are some thoughts from a poster named Wizenheimer that I found interesting:

First of all, I'm thinking that Ainge is holding a grudge against KP and the Blazers. KP flummoxed him in the telfair trade, and then the blazers leapfrogged the Celts and landed Oden. I think Ainge has been on a slow boil about that for a couple of years. He also...IIRC...left portland on somewhat poor terms back in his playing days, and had a couple of unflattering things to say back then. So this may be his "revenge is a dish best tasted cold" moment.

The next thing will be if Miles can survive a training camp and exhibition season. It will be interesting to see how much he actually participates.

Then, it's going to be real interesting to see what the reaction will be from KP and the blazer management. . Will they challenge the CBA considering that section of the rules has never been tested before? After all, they went through all the CBA mandated procedures in apparent good faith.

And if Miles does play, the blazers will have to explain that fact in comparison to all their assessments otherwise. They will have lost not only the cap-space, but also the opportunity to leverage Miles's expiring contract into something.

Science and medicine always have uncertainty. If someone has a 98% chance of dying from a disease, that means that some people, even if it is only a small minority, don't die from it. Miles being able to play would really be that controversial, nor would it mean that the doctors game him the wrong advice.

We have such a warped view of medicine in the US, and that might be part of the reason why people are so lawsuit happy.

What is ironic is people expect doctors to see the future, yet have no standards whatsoever for hucksters like homeopathy practitioners.

The dude had a devastating injury and might have overcome it. If so, he's fortunate, and perhaps admirable.