What Rights do we have to BBD?

[Woodstock Libertarian]

So when BBD's contract ends at the end of this season, what rights, if any, do the Celtics have to keep him on board?

[Roy Hobbs]

We have something called "Early Bird" rights to BBD.  We can sign him to a deal less than or equal to 175% of his current deal, without having to use another exception (MLE, etc.)

We also have the right to match any offer sheet BBD signs with another team, assuming that we still have our MLE.

For further info, see here and here.

[Fan from VT]

As a 2nd rounder with a 2 yr. contract, I believe that he is a restricted free agent and that other teams are not allowed to offer more than the MLE to him for the first year; subsequent seasons he could be paid a normal max salary. We'd have to pay him out of our MLE to match any such offers, but because of the MLE restriction we'd be guaranteed the ability to match any such offers.

If he gets no other offers, I think that he would be able to use the normal avenues to sign him: MLE, LLE (which I don't think we could use because I believe we used it this year), Minimum Salary or Early Bird Exception (175% of his salary this season (edited)).

We don't have Bird rights because we need 3 seasons for that (Powe the same season as BBD and Pruitt next season will have bird rights).

I think this is one reason (in addition to the fact Powe is just better) if we move one backup PF, all offers being equal, we'd send BBD, since it's harder to keep him than Powe.


That's off the top of my head, I could be wrong.

[Woodstock Libertarian]

Perfect.

Thanks!

[billysan]

Didnt Powe sign on purpose for three years and Davis refused to sign for three years just for these reasons? There was a comment made that BBD wanted to be able to test the FA market early while Leon wanted the longer term security with commitment, etc.

Anyone else remember this rumor? I was unable to find a link about the subject.

[Roy Hobbs]

Didnt Powe sign on purpose for three years and Davis refused to sign for three years just for these reasons? There was a comment made that BBD wanted to be able to test the FA market early while Leon wanted the longer term security with commitment, etc.

Anyone else remember this rumor? I was unable to find a link about the subject.

I'm not sure if it was a matter of refusal on the part of BBD.  To sign BBD to a 3-year deal, we would have had to sign BBD using our MLE.  We needed much of that MLE to sign Posey, which meant we only had enough money to sign either Pruitt *or* BBD to a three year deal.  The team chose Pruitt, presumably because he was drafted higher and backup guard was a greater need.

Now, I remember reading after the fact that  BBD's agent justified him slipping to the 2nd round by saying that he could now get paid after two years, rather than the longer time period it takes for 1st rounders to cash in.  However, I get the impression that had Danny offered him three years, he would have taken the security.

[Chris]

Didnt Powe sign on purpose for three years and Davis refused to sign for three years just for these reasons? There was a comment made that BBD wanted to be able to test the FA market early while Leon wanted the longer term security with commitment, etc.

Anyone else remember this rumor? I was unable to find a link about the subject.

I'm not sure if it was a matter of refusal on the part of BBD.  To sign BBD to a 3-year deal, we would have had to sign BBD using our MLE.  We needed much of that MLE to sign Posey, which meant we only had enough money to sign either Pruitt *or* BBD to a three year deal.  The team chose Pruitt, presumably because he was drafted higher and backup guard was a greater need.

Now, I remember reading after the fact that  BBD's agent justified him slipping to the 2nd round by saying that he could now get paid after two years, rather than the longer time period it takes for 1st rounders to cash in.  However, I get the impression that had Danny offered him three years, he would have taken the security.

From what I had read, Danny offered 3 years to both BBD and Pruitt early in the offseason, but BBD's agent wanted to play hardball, and after they started finding move valuable uses for the MLE, Danny pulled the 3 year deal off the table.

[Chris]

We have something called "Early Bird" rights to BBD.  We can sign him to a deal less than or equal to 175% of his current deal, without having to use another exception (MLE, etc.)

We also have the right to match any offer sheet BBD signs with another team, assuming that we still have our MLE.

For further info, see here and here.

I believe the early Bird Rights allow us to give him 175% of the his current deal, OR a deal equal to the league average salary (which is the same as the MLE), whichever is greater.  Since the league average would be more than 175% of his current deal, then we can essentially match any offer up to the MLE...without having to actually use the MLE

[bandonox]

bel biv devoe?....jk

[Roy Hobbs]

We have something called "Early Bird" rights to BBD.  We can sign him to a deal less than or equal to 175% of his current deal, without having to use another exception (MLE, etc.)

We also have the right to match any offer sheet BBD signs with another team, assuming that we still have our MLE.

For further info, see here and here.

I believe the early Bird Rights allow us to give him 175% of the his current deal, OR a deal equal to the league average salary (which is the same as the MLE), whichever is greater.  Since the league average would be more than 175% of his current deal, then we can essentially match any offer up to the MLE...without having to actually use the MLE

Yes, that's right.  I was mixing up non-Bird and early-Bird restricted free agents.  Long day...

[billysan]

Didnt Powe sign on purpose for three years and Davis refused to sign for three years just for these reasons? There was a comment made that BBD wanted to be able to test the FA market early while Leon wanted the longer term security with commitment, etc.

Anyone else remember this rumor? I was unable to find a link about the subject.

I'm not sure if it was a matter of refusal on the part of BBD.  To sign BBD to a 3-year deal, we would have had to sign BBD using our MLE.  We needed much of that MLE to sign Posey, which meant we only had enough money to sign either Pruitt *or* BBD to a three year deal.  The team chose Pruitt, presumably because he was drafted higher and backup guard was a greater need.

Now, I remember reading after the fact that  BBD's agent justified him slipping to the 2nd round by saying that he could now get paid after two years, rather than the longer time period it takes for 1st rounders to cash in.  However, I get the impression that had Danny offered him three years, he would have taken the security.

From what I had read, Danny offered 3 years to both BBD and Pruitt early in the offseason, but BBD's agent wanted to play hardball, and after they started finding move valuable uses for the MLE, Danny pulled the 3 year deal off the table.

Thanks for the feedback guys, I think that this is going to remain a fuzzy gray area depending on whether we want to believe Davis's agent or the Celtics press release. I think the take Chris had was what I remembered as well.

The important part is that we have some control over his rights if we want to keep him.