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Re: Celticsblog Fantasy Roster Review
« Reply #585 on: August 22, 2008, 12:21:02 AM »

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I think Dallas is overrated.


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« Reply #586 on: August 22, 2008, 12:23:24 AM »

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Hopefully, one of these days we'll get around to the "Teams of the Future" rankings.  ::)

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« Reply #587 on: August 22, 2008, 12:26:53 AM »

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I may feel similarly about both teams: both have tremendous depth and three-fifths of contender's starting lineup; but then both teams are running out two guys that aren't clear starters and I'm surprised so many are reconciled to that.

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« Reply #588 on: August 22, 2008, 12:34:05 AM »

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Minnesota Timberwolves

PG - Jose Calderon
SG - Ronnie Brewer
SF - LeBron "The King" James
PF - Reggie Evans
C  - Andris Biedrins

Reserves:

PG - Keyon Dooling
SG - Anthony Parker
SF - Nicolas Batum
PF - Amir Johnson / Joey Dorsey
C - Aaron Gray / Javale McGee

Inactive:

SG - Sonny Weems
SF - Mickael Gelabale



This has quickly turned into a team of the future with young prospects like Amir Johnson, Nicolas Batum, Aaron Gray, Javale McGee, Joey Dorsey, Sonny Weems, and Mickael Gelabale, as well as our team's flagship players LeBron James, Andris Biedrins, Jose Calderon, and Ronnie Brewer.  We are confident, however, that while young, 3 of our starters around LeBron are each poised for breakout years. 

Jose Calderon will benefit from being given the co-reigns of the offense along with LeBron, and in his past has proven to be one of the most efficient points in the league when given the responsibility.  Andris Biedrins has focused his early years on cleaning up around the basket and being a beast on the boards.  In this offense, he'll continue to do more of the same, while also being a prime dump off target for the basket crashing Calderon and James.  We expect him to set career marks in PPG without suffering a drop in his league best FG%.  Ronnie Brewer was one of the most improved player from his rookie to sophomore seasons, and we expect more improvement going into his third campaign.  While remaining his teams 4th option on offense, he will benefit from several open looks created by LeBron and Jose Ole, and be able to give maximum effort on both ends of he court, as he will be spelled by the Wolves' best and most well rounded reserve - Anthony Parker. 

Reggie Evans has gracially accepted a short term starters role while the freak-on-training Amir Johnson gets a few more months of NBA experience under his belt.  Evans has vowed to work harder than ever on the boards and on the defensive side.  He has acknowledged that having rebounding around LeBron is key, because the more possessions you give to the best player in the world, the better.  As you can imagine, we are ecstatic to have clearly two of the league's top rebounders on our frontline. 

Aaron Gray will provide tireless effort, great size, and promising skills while building upon his 19 point, 22 rebound rookie season finale performance.  Calderon will be spelled by one of the 3 best defensive point guards in the game, and a player who knows his role, distributes, and will knock down open shots when necessary. 

LeBron's backup is the supremely young, supremely athletic Nicolas Batum.  His one weakness is creating for himself, but he will mostly be called upon to finish on the break, hit open shots, and stretch the defense.  Early workouts leave us fully confident that he can achieve those goals in his 8-10 MPG.

Our last two men off the bench include Joey Dorsey, a mature bull that will specialize in hustle, rebounding, and physical defense and rebounding.  He will never be an all star, but he knows his strengths and utilizes them to the fullest.  Our third center is the young Javale McGee, a player bursting with potential and skills.  At 7'0", 250 lbs and with room for another 20 pounds of muscle, McGee is a great shooter, athletic finisher, and big man that can beat most guards up and down the court.  With a couple years of strength and post skills training, McGee could become a bonafide star in the pivot.

It is rumored that the Wolves are working with a 1-2 year window of mid playoff spots, 3-7 year championship window, and are more than ready to pull a major trade in a later offseason if and when their young reserves develop into players of starter potential.  Early rumors have them planning on making a major move after Chris Bosh if and when Amir Johnson, Nicolas Batum, and/or Javale McGee develop as valuable trade bait. 

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Re: Celticsblog Fantasy Roster Review
« Reply #589 on: August 22, 2008, 12:36:07 AM »

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I think Dallas is overrated.

I kinda think Detroit is. (No offense CFF)

It's all good, just want to know your reasoning.
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« Reply #590 on: August 22, 2008, 12:36:51 AM »

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I may feel similarly about both teams: both have tremendous depth and three-fifths of contender's starting lineup; but then both teams are running out two guys that aren't clear starters and I'm surprised so many are reconciled to that.

I'd be curious to hear which of the following five guys aren't starters:

Al Horford -- starter on a playoff team
Amare Stoudemire -- starter on a playoff team
Rudy Gay -- starter and best player on his team
Andre Iguodala -- starter on a playoff team
T.J. Ford -- starter on a playoff team

Then, there's the bench:

Udonis Haslem -- starter on a championship team
Martell Webster -- starter on a Western conference playoff contender
Steve Blake -- starter on a Western conference playoff contender
Cuttino Mobley -- started 37 games last season
Quinton Ross -- started 44 games last season

This is one particular criticism that I don't understand.  I'm not even sure who the two players in my starting lineup that you're referring to.  Potentially Horford and T.J. Ford, but Horford is better than Perk, and Ford is better than Rondo, and yet the Celtics contended just fine.

With all due respect, to not list Portland in the top ten teams is, in my humble opinion, not even close to justifiable.

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« Reply #591 on: August 22, 2008, 12:40:10 AM »

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My TOP three teams.  ;D

Numero uno - San Antonio Spurs
Numero dos - Oklahoma City Thunder
Numero tres - Miami Heat

You guys thought I meant top three teams in the league? Oh no no no. Those are the top three team with the best odds for the number 1 pick in the lottery.  ;).


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« Reply #592 on: August 22, 2008, 12:41:55 AM »

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I may feel similarly about both teams: both have tremendous depth and three-fifths of contender's starting lineup; but then both teams are running out two guys that aren't clear starters and I'm surprised so many are reconciled to that.

I'd be curious to hear which of the following five guys aren't starters:

Al Horford -- starter on a playoff team
Amare Stoudemire -- starter on a playoff team
Rudy Gay -- starter and best player on his team
Andre Iguodala -- starter on a playoff team
T.J. Ford -- starter on a playoff team

Then, there's the bench:

Udonis Haslem -- starter on a championship team
Martell Webster -- starter on a Western conference playoff contender
Steve Blake -- starter on a Western conference playoff contender
Cuttino Mobley -- started 37 games last season
Quinton Ross -- started 44 games last season

This is one particular criticism that I don't understand.  I'm not even sure who the two players in my starting lineup that you're referring to.  Potentially Horford and T.J. Ford, but Horford is better than Perk, and Ford is better than Rondo, and yet the Celtics contended just fine.

With all due respect, to not list Portland in the top ten teams is, in my humble opinion, not even close to justifiable.


Roy, I think he was referring to the previous exchange about Dallas and Detroit being overrated. 


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« Reply #593 on: August 22, 2008, 12:44:06 AM »

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I may feel similarly about both teams: both have tremendous depth and three-fifths of contender's starting lineup; but then both teams are running out two guys that aren't clear starters and I'm surprised so many are reconciled to that.

I'd be curious to hear which of the following five guys aren't starters:

Al Horford -- starter on a playoff team
Amare Stoudemire -- starter on a playoff team
Rudy Gay -- starter and best player on his team
Andre Iguodala -- starter on a playoff team
T.J. Ford -- starter on a playoff team

Then, there's the bench:

Udonis Haslem -- starter on a championship team
Martell Webster -- starter on a Western conference playoff contender
Steve Blake -- starter on a Western conference playoff contender
Cuttino Mobley -- started 37 games last season
Quinton Ross -- started 44 games last season

This is one particular criticism that I don't understand.  I'm not even sure who the two players in my starting lineup that you're referring to.  Potentially Horford and T.J. Ford, but Horford is better than Perk, and Ford is better than Rondo, and yet the Celtics contended just fine.

With all due respect, to not list Portland in the top ten teams is, in my humble opinion, not even close to justifiable.


Roy, I think he was referring to the previous exchange about Dallas and Detroit being overrated. 

Ah...  Okay, then I want a more defined explanation about how Portland is left out of the top ten. ;)

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Re: Celticsblog Fantasy Roster Review
« Reply #594 on: August 22, 2008, 12:45:35 AM »

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I will say this Roy, I don't think Ford is better than Rondo. He is too easily injured, not as creative with the ball (that's not a knock on Ford but a compliment to Rondo), not as natural a facilitator, and not as good a defender. Ford has a better jump shot, but doesn't get to the hoop any better than Rondo does.

But then again, I think he's a nice fit for your team.

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« Reply #595 on: August 22, 2008, 12:46:53 AM »

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It is rumored that the Wolves are working with a 1-2 year window of mid playoff spots, 3-7 year championship window, and are more than ready to pull a major trade in a later offseason if and when their young reserves develop into players of starter potential.  Early rumors have them planning on making a major move after Chris Bosh if and when Amir Johnson, Nicolas Batum, and/or Javale McGee develop as valuable trade bait.


I don't know why Minnesota should have such low expectations. I think the Timberwolves as currently constituted are better than the ECF championship Cavaliers of 06-07.

Although, I wouldn't be surprised if Evans holds off Amir Johnson all season.

Roy, I think he was referring to the previous exchange about Dallas and Detroit being overrated.

Yeah, thanks Big Ticket (TP), I was; and trying to explain some of my hesitation in including them in my top 10, though there's a lot to like about both squads. Sorry for the confusion.

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« Reply #596 on: August 22, 2008, 12:47:19 AM »

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I think Dallas is overrated.

I kinda think Detroit is. (No offense CFF)

It's all good, just want to know your reasoning.

Well, I think your team is really good, I just don't think you guys are a legit championship contender like everyone make you out to be, IMO.
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« Reply #597 on: August 22, 2008, 12:47:39 AM »

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But then again, I think he's a nice fit for your team.

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« Reply #598 on: August 22, 2008, 12:48:27 AM »

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I will say this Roy, I don't think Ford is better than Rondo. He is too easily injured, not as creative with the ball (that's not a knock on Ford but a compliment to Rondo), not as natural a facilitator, and not as good a defender. Ford has a better jump shot, but doesn't get to the hoop any better than Rondo does.

But then again, I think he's a nice fit for your team.

I disagree with the creativity and facilitator points.  Ford is one of the better "floor general" point guards in the entire NBA, in my opinion.  Rondo definitely has him in health and defense, but I think Ford is a better passer.

Also, head-to-head, Ford has absolutely dominated Rondo.  Link
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« Reply #599 on: August 22, 2008, 12:51:17 AM »

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I will say this Roy, I don't think Ford is better than Rondo. He is too easily injured, not as creative with the ball (that's not a knock on Ford but a compliment to Rondo), not as natural a facilitator, and not as good a defender. Ford has a better jump shot, but doesn't get to the hoop any better than Rondo does.

But then again, I think he's a nice fit for your team.


I disagree with the creativity and facilitator points.  Ford is one of the better "floor general" point guards in the entire NBA, in my opinion.  Rondo definitely has him in health and defense, but I think Ford is a better passer.

When I said creativity with the ball, I wasn't exclusively referring to passing the ball but also his dribble moves to get by defenders and his ability to shake larger defenders in an accidental post-up situation.