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Re: What does Oden have to average to not be a disappointment?
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2008, 12:28:46 PM »

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I thought Oden was supposed to be the next Tim Duncan or Bill Russell. If he's the next Duncan he'll come in 20/10 lol. Anyway I think Oden should be a big part of their offense. I mean he's a super-built, reasonably quick 7 footer. I think he'd be a tough defensive assignment so hopefully they throw him the ball a lot.

Re: What does Oden have to average to not be a disappointment?
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2008, 12:54:51 PM »

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I think Oden needs to average 1 playoff appearance next year, as the starting center.

He's on a team where he doesn't need to score, I don't see them running the offense through him on the low post - I do see him getting easy buckets when attention is focused elsewhere, but offense is not Oden's main draw, its his defense

Oden needs to be one of the top 10 centers in the league by year 3, if not he's a bust (as a #1 pick) - but looking around, I don't think that'll be too hard, and I don't think it has to be based off of numbers at all
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Re: What does Oden have to average to not be a disappointment?
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2008, 12:54:58 PM »

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If I were a Trail Blazer fan, I would be happy enough with him providing a solid anchor at C. That in itself is rare enough in the league, I wouldn't be looking too closely at his numbers. Basically, if the opposing teams average about or under 93 ppg I'd take it to mean Oden is doing his job.

Considering all the hype surrounding him, sure, I would *like* Bill Russell. I'd be very happy with Marcus Camby, though.

Re: What does Oden have to average to not be a disappointment?
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2008, 12:56:44 PM »

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Re: What does Oden have to average to not be a disappointment?
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2008, 02:16:58 PM »

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I don't know about stats but what I do know is what he has to do is be a rebounding and defense presence. Offense will come and develop. It has never been his strength. But he has to come aboard and be that last line of defense, shut down big guy defender who controls the boards defensively and can keep possessions alive on the offensive side.

Points and offensive moves will come later.

Re: What does Oden have to average to not be a disappointment?
« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2008, 02:58:39 PM »

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The Blazers were close to making the playoffs last year.  I think the only way I can see Oden's rookie season being a failure is if they make it to the playoffs or not.  That's just my opinion and I know this was about how much he'd have to average but I'm looking at it as how many more wins will he give him.  Oden will have his ups and downs but I think his D will be pretty solid most of the year. 

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« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2008, 03:10:46 PM »

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Re: What does Oden have to average to not be a disappointment?
« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2008, 03:23:39 PM »

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Worth saying that Oden is an unusual case as a rookie because of his young age, the quality of his teammates and his recovery from injury. It muddies comparisons to nearly all other big men going #1 in the draft (Dwight is probably the closest). The only way I see Greg Oden disappointing is if he gets injured. He's too good not to contribute a great amount to his team.

As for my expectations of the man, stats wise I expect Oden to put up 12-15ppg, 9-12rpg, 1.5-2.5bpg, 31-35mpg.

Performance wise I expect Oden to be the leading factor in turning Portland into a quiet but potent contender. They'll likely be a lower playoff seed but they'll be extremely dangerous. They're going to cause a lot of those teams out West a lot of problems.

Oden's biggest impact on the court will be enabling his teammates to do what they do best, Oden will do all the dirty work and take up a lot of defensive attention from the opposition (too big, too tough to stop around the rim, like Shaq these days, he'll always have a defender glued to him pushing away from the paint). That'll allow his teammates far more freedom to go about their business, I expect Aldridge to be the biggest benefactor.

I expect Oden to be a Top 6-8 center by late January. I reckon he'll have enough offense to separate him from the Dalembert/Chandler group of centers. Depending on how involved he is offensively he could move up to Top 5 by the end of the season. I expect him to be one of the best interior defenders and rebounders in the league.

Re: What does Oden have to average to not be a disappointment?
« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2008, 03:44:13 PM »

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Worth saying that Oden is an unusual case as a rookie because of his young age, the quality of his teammates and his recovery from injury.

Young age?  I heard the AARP already sent Oden its benefits card...

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Re: What does Oden have to average to not be a disappointment?
« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2008, 04:53:16 PM »

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I hope his second year is a bust (then we can sign him)  ;)
Trailblazers did a nice job without him last year.  I don't think he'll need to be an offensive force next year but imo
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Re: What does Oden have to average to not be a disappointment?
« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2008, 05:59:40 PM »

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sorry...but he's the next Sam Bowie...a career destined to be shortened by injuries.

Re: What does Oden have to average to not be a disappointment?
« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2008, 06:41:03 PM »

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All he really needs to do is get on the court for 90% of the games, playing 28 minutes or more.  If he can do that, he should be able to put up 10/10/2 blk numbers. 

Re: What does Oden have to average to not be a disappointment?
« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2008, 06:45:02 PM »

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I think the expectations are unreachably high for Oden. He will be a dissappointment to many for his first 5 years in the league, at least. If he can't win 3 or more championships in his career, he will probably be considered a bust, mostly because his game is not exciting.

Re: What does Oden have to average to not be a disappointment?
« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2008, 07:55:00 PM »

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I think that Greg oden is alot like young shaq if he stays healthy i think that he will probably have a very good year with 12-15 ppg 12-15 rpg and 2-4 bpg any thing less and it will be a dissapointment but i think he needs to be successful this year just to get the fan support. if he does not gain that respect i think it will be a tough few beggining year(like patrick ewing)

Re: What does Oden have to average to not be a disappointment?
« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2008, 10:16:35 PM »

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Yeah. I don't see Oden being as effective on the offensive side of the ball just yet. He showed his rawness in the summer league before he got injured, and no player gets better during recovery. I would expect him to be a near double  double with 9ppg, 8rpg, and almost 2 bpg. As long as he doesn't sit out any more than 10 games and only with injuries like back/knee soreness/stiffness, then he'll be considered a great rookie year, and definite ROTY honors. The only thing standing in his way of that is he's on a decent team, with Brandon Roy and possibly Fernandez/Bayless getting most of the spotlight.
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