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Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #1275 on: August 11, 2008, 01:48:13 PM »

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just a quick one - how were the draft picks decided? i wasn't around when it was done.


Don won the Celtics answering a trivia question.


The rest were just random names put next to GMs by the different Mods involved.



Finally, the draft order was decided when I ran a mock draft in 2k5.  

oh ok, could we have chosen a team if we'd wanted to though? i like the draft order being randomized by someone who was impartial too.


Certain posters got teams they wanted through creative methods.  But in general, it was easier to just stick GMs on teams.  

Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #1276 on: August 11, 2008, 01:48:54 PM »

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Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #1277 on: August 11, 2008, 01:50:35 PM »

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I'm of the mind that the league shouldn't protect people from themselves.  The people with the best teams are the ones who were able to make the best deals, without those trades being completely ridiculous.  The game as presently constituted rewards activity and negotiation skill.  Thus, why I prefer a very conservative veto. 

On the other hand, there is certainly a set of circumstances where a veto is justified, and I wouldn't want to preclude the option.

Fair enough, but, as I believe I've argued before, it's as much about protecting the rest of the league as it is naive GMs. There's evidence that some of the least responsible General Managers, after making early, ill-conceived trades - whether out of boredom or lack of experience - simply won't see the draft through to the end. Rather, once they can read the writing on the wall, they'll just drop the team back into the commissioner's hands to re-assign.

So? I still don't lose my 11/4 in that scenario. You're helping me make my point.

Everyone can sit back on their high horse because it didn't happen to them.

I saw a team in front of me who's roster was screaming Childress and I overspent, I've been wheeling and dealing since day one to afford me that right. It's very disappointing...

Ah, sorry, Jsaad, I misunderstood I thought you were approximating Childress's PPG and RPG: 11.8 and 4.9. (At least it looks like I'm not the only one...)

Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #1278 on: August 11, 2008, 01:51:36 PM »

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just a quick one - how were the draft picks decided? i wasn't around when it was done.


Don won the Celtics answering a trivia question.


The rest were just random names put next to GMs by the different Mods involved.



Finally, the draft order was decided when I ran a mock draft in 2k5.  

oh ok, could we have chosen a team if we'd wanted to though? i like the draft order being randomized by someone who was impartial too.


Certain posters got teams they wanted through creative methods.  But in general, it was easier to just stick GMs on teams.  

got ya. so next year, could i keep las vegas or is it random again?

Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #1279 on: August 11, 2008, 01:52:16 PM »

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I lost an 11/4 my friend...

Maybe, but what are the chances he would've on the board otherwise? I'd have given him a hard look at 5 (#27) and 6 (#6) if I though he was available to play in 2008-2009; and I can't be the only one. In fact, I'd guess he'd have gone at the back of the 5th round, along with Bell, Korver, Gomes and Outlaw.

Also, I have to disagree with Roy (usually the wrong side of the argument to be on...) in that I think this league in particular could benefit from a more liberal veto, that or a pre-draft trade cap.

So? I still don't lose my 11/4 in that scenario. You're helping me make my point.

Everyone can sit back on their high horse because it didn't happen to them.

I saw a team in front of me who's roster was screaming Childress and I overspent, I've been wheeling and dealing since day one to afford me that right. It's very disappointing...

To be fair you didn't lose an 11/4 and get nothing in return.  If you had picked Hakim Warrick in that spot you would have had another 11/4.  You took Ty Thomas, who gives you a 7/4.  You lost 4 points, but had the opportunity to take several other guys who could have replaced Childress.

I'm talking about picks, I lost an 11th round 4th pick.

Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #1280 on: August 11, 2008, 01:52:57 PM »

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just a quick one - how were the draft picks decided? i wasn't around when it was done.


Don won the Celtics answering a trivia question.


The rest were just random names put next to GMs by the different Mods involved.



Finally, the draft order was decided when I ran a mock draft in 2k5.  

oh ok, could we have chosen a team if we'd wanted to though? i like the draft order being randomized by someone who was impartial too.


Certain posters got teams they wanted through creative methods.  But in general, it was easier to just stick GMs on teams.  

got ya. so next year, could i keep las vegas or is it random again?

next year, I get to be a GM and someone else gets to decide that.

Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #1281 on: August 11, 2008, 01:56:27 PM »

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just a quick one - how were the draft picks decided? i wasn't around when it was done.


Don won the Celtics answering a trivia question.


The rest were just random names put next to GMs by the different Mods involved.



Finally, the draft order was decided when I ran a mock draft in 2k5. 

oh ok, could we have chosen a team if we'd wanted to though? i like the draft order being randomized by someone who was impartial too.


Certain posters got teams they wanted through creative methods.  But in general, it was easier to just stick GMs on teams. 

got ya. so next year, could i keep las vegas or is it random again?

next year, I get to be a GM and someone else gets to decide that.

*finger on nose* Not it!

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Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #1282 on: August 11, 2008, 01:58:43 PM »

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I lost an 11/4 my friend...

Maybe, but what are the chances he would've on the board otherwise? I'd have given him a hard look at 5 (#27) and 6 (#6) if I though he was available to play in 2008-2009; and I can't be the only one. In fact, I'd guess he'd have gone at the back of the 5th round, along with Bell, Korver, Gomes and Outlaw.

Also, I have to disagree with Roy (usually the wrong side of the argument to be on...) in that I think this league in particular could benefit from a more liberal veto, that or a pre-draft trade cap.

So? I still don't lose my 11/4 in that scenario. You're helping me make my point.

Everyone can sit back on their high horse because it didn't happen to them.

I saw a team in front of me who's roster was screaming Childress and I overspent, I've been wheeling and dealing since day one to afford me that right. It's very disappointing...

To be fair you didn't lose an 11/4 and get nothing in return.  If you had picked Hakim Warrick in that spot you would have had another 11/4.  You took Ty Thomas, who gives you a 7/4.  You lost 4 points, but had the opportunity to take several other guys who could have replaced Childress.

I'm talking about picks, I lost an 11th round 4th pick.

Ohhh.  Yeah that makes much more sense.  That sucks man.  Sorry about that.
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Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #1283 on: August 11, 2008, 02:03:52 PM »

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There are about 18-20 players I would still love to have.... I hope for the most part that other GMs disagree on these guys...  Either way I think I can get 2 for my 6th and 7th men.  Works for me.


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Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #1284 on: August 11, 2008, 02:05:23 PM »

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Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #1285 on: August 11, 2008, 02:05:54 PM »

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The Heat select Tyrus Thomas


Already picked

Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #1286 on: August 11, 2008, 02:09:12 PM »

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i wouldn't say you got screwed jsaad, you were rightfully given a do-over.

I lost an 11/4 my friend...

I didn't need to move up to select Ty or another player I had rated in this area. I thought Childress was the man in round 6.

As I understand it, though (assuming you were being candid) there were two or more players you liked at 6(7).  You traded up in order to be in a position to take one of those guys.  It turns out, it didn't work out for you, which stinks, but it's not like there was no shot you were going to trade up. 

Anyway, I sympathize, but the decision the league came to is probably the fairest one for all involved.  Everyone is at least working under the same assumptions now.

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Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #1287 on: August 11, 2008, 02:13:53 PM »

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childress can still be a good future player when he returns to the nba.

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Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #1288 on: August 11, 2008, 02:15:45 PM »

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Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #1289 on: August 11, 2008, 02:16:15 PM »

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The Heat select Tyrus Thomas


Already picked


I wonder if he realized this... not viewing this thread anymore and pick is due in under 5 minutes.


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