What's left in the cookie jar?

[timepiece33]

The need is a big - but I don't think Danny sees what I see: A foul prone center with a bum shoulder and, ugh, O'Blount.

With Garnett, Davis, Powe, and O'Blount ... we have an interesting combination of power players.

[Evantime34]

We have 3 spots left if we send Walker to Europe. I say we add two or three from a list of Kwame, Birdman, Livingston, Miles, and Wells. We could probably get three for the remainder of the MLE, the LLE and sign one for the vet min. However because we are trying to get these guys for cheap we probably will have to wait a while.

[timepiece33]

At this point, I sign Bill Walker to a contract with a portion of the MLE and then pursue Kirk Snyder.     He is physical enough to be a pretty good backup SF.  He's been played out of position at the SG position for years.   

C  (3) - Kendrick Perkins, Patrick O'Bryant, Glenn Davis
PF (3) - Kevin Garnett, Leon Powe, Brian Scalabrine
SF (3) - Paul Pierce, Kirk Snyder, Bill Walker
SG (3) - Ray Allen, Tony Allen, JR Giddens
PG (3) - Rajon Rondo, Eddie House, Gabe Pruitt

[cordobes]

The need is a big - but I don't think Danny sees what I see: A foul prone center with a bum shoulder and, ugh, O'Blount.

I agree Coach, and was lobbying for someone earlier. Even Krstic or Kwame Brown, although my preference was Kurt Thomas. I think Danny/Doc actually consider Davis/Powe/Scalabrine as adequate depth for bigs.

It's mind boggling for me to start the season with Perk and O'Bryant as our only two bigs.

I'm with Coach and billy. I think we need size in the wings, as well; but my priority would be a big. If the playoffs were beggining right now, I'd be very scared of this rotation. But I understand we still have time.

[Cman]

Bigs that would interest me:

Kurt Thomas
Brian Skinner
Francisco Elson

"Big" is our biggest need right now.  Powe and BBD, while I like them a lot and are great in certain matchups, are undersized.  POB lacks experience.  Perk might be injured.  What would be ideal is a longer, defensive minded big man that can sub for Perk.  I think the three above can do that.

None of those guys is coming here unless willing to take a two year deal starting at about $2.3M (assuming Cs have $2.8M left of the MLE -- because I assume Ainge will use $500K of the MLE for Walker's contract -- I don't buy and don't understand the whole Walker to Europe thing).

However, at this point, I think Ainge just sits tight.  He might sign a couple players to non-guaranteed contracts to have competition in camp (he has always liked that), but I don't expect there to be any more additions for a while, absent a trade.

[Roy Hobbs]

Crumbs.

[jdub1660]

I assume Boston still has $2.8/1 or $6/2 to dangle at the most.

I'm still interested in names like these to get more size, experience:
Finley
Thomas
Wells
Ross
Miles
Horry (maybe)

Finley - maybe cause he can swing from SG and SF, but his Defense is...eh
Thomas - No.he's a great role playing Big that demands too much money for his worth.
Wells - No.WAY 2 selfish. Houston traded him with Mike James for more than just Bobby Jackson.they wanted rid of him
Ross - He can't shoot. We need offense with Defense at this point.
Miles - YES YES YES. He wants minimum money. he wants an injury clause. he wants to play. he loves KG. get this guy
Horry - No. He's washed up and as someone else pointed out, in the playoffs he missed almost all his 3 point shots

We need to dump Scals contract on someone in exchange for a draft pick and cash. He doesn't fit into our system well enough. Along with him, I'd also consider traded BBD or possibly Powe, preferably Davis. They have the same game, and we could use the roster spots for player like C. Anderson and a swing SG/SF like Barnes/Evans. Then we could have space for Walker to grow. If he doesn't, then you have the pieces to disperse his minutes to.

[billysan]

My biggest concern is offense off the bench. I had this concern last year, but was happily relieved when Posey and House provided enough. I dont see it this year unless Giddens gets some decent run and can average 7-8 ppg. I dont buy that Powe/Davis give us enough either.

If I could sign one more guy to the minimum I would consider Miles on a make good if he is healthy enough to pass our physical or a shooter like Herrmann since Nachbar is apparently gone.

I hopeful that Tony can give more go-to offense from the bench with longer more regular minutes. Use that excellent ability to get to the rim of his to get some more points.

I hope Tony gives us some offense as well.

The need is a big - but I don't think Danny sees what I see: A foul prone center with a bum shoulder and, ugh, O'Blount.

I agree Coach, and was lobbying for someone earlier. Even Krstic or Kwame Brown, although my preference was Kurt Thomas. I think Danny/Doc actually consider Davis/Powe/Scalabrine as adequate depth for bigs.

It's mind boggling for me to start the season with Perk and O'Bryant as our only two bigs.

I still would like to see more offense off the bench as well.

Didn't we win 66 games last year with basically Powe and Big Baby as our backup bigs...because Pollard was injured for most of the year and PJ didn't contribute much during the regular season. Powe as a starting center in 3 games last year averaged 13 points and 6.7 rebounds...and in 2 games as a starting pf averaged 16 points and 7 rebounds. Unless Perkins goes down for a prolonged period of time, we are fine with our big rotation. This is not the 90s...the are very few true centers to worry about. You can make due with Powe/Big Baby alongside KG most of the time.

You had a pretty good argument going except for one thing. PJ Brown, when we signed him the minutes at center from Scal/Powe/Davis were pretty much gone.

I like Leon as much as the next guy, but as a backup PF not a center. If you look back at those games he started you notice KG covering the opposing center in many cases because the ones that could shoot just shot over Powe.

Point is, Leon started, played very well, but played PF for the most part and KG was the center.

[MVP]

My biggest concern is offense off the bench. I had this concern last year, but was happily relieved when Posey and House provided enough. I dont see it this year unless Giddens gets some decent run and can average 7-8 ppg. I dont buy that Powe/Davis give us enough either.

If I could sign one more guy to the minimum I would consider Miles on a make good if he is healthy enough to pass our physical or a shooter like Herrmann since Nachbar is apparently gone.

I hopeful that Tony can give more go-to offense from the bench with longer more regular minutes. Use that excellent ability to get to the rim of his to get some more points.

I hope Tony gives us some offense as well.

The need is a big - but I don't think Danny sees what I see: A foul prone center with a bum shoulder and, ugh, O'Blount.

I agree Coach, and was lobbying for someone earlier. Even Krstic or Kwame Brown, although my preference was Kurt Thomas. I think Danny/Doc actually consider Davis/Powe/Scalabrine as adequate depth for bigs.

It's mind boggling for me to start the season with Perk and O'Bryant as our only two bigs.

I still would like to see more offense off the bench as well.

Didn't we win 66 games last year with basically Powe and Big Baby as our backup bigs...because Pollard was injured for most of the year and PJ didn't contribute much during the regular season. Powe as a starting center in 3 games last year averaged 13 points and 6.7 rebounds...and in 2 games as a starting pf averaged 16 points and 7 rebounds. Unless Perkins goes down for a prolonged period of time, we are fine with our big rotation. This is not the 90s...the are very few true centers to worry about. You can make due with Powe/Big Baby alongside KG most of the time.

You had a pretty good argument going except for one thing. PJ Brown, when we signed him the minutes at center from Scal/Powe/Davis were pretty much gone.

I like Leon as much as the next guy, but as a backup PF not a center. If you look back at those games he started you notice KG covering the opposing center in many cases because the ones that could shoot just shot over Powe.

Point is, Leon started, played very well, but played PF for the most part and KG was the center.

In the playoffs sure, but in the regular season when we won 66 games that wasn't the case. PJ played in 18 regular season games, averaging 11.6 minutes/game, 2.2 points, 3.8 rebounds on 34% shooting. Regular season PJ Brown was pretty bad...he was still extremely rusty and got most of his minutes the last part of the year when we started resting/limiting minutes of the starters. My point is that for the regular season, we are fine with the big man position. For the playoffs, we might need to pick up a vet later in the season depending on the development of the younger big guys and the health of KG/Perk.

[Birdbrain]

The need is a big - but I don't think Danny sees what I see: A foul prone center with a bum shoulder and, ugh, O'Blount.

Yeah, Danny doesn't see what you see.

And last year they had a younger foul prone center with injury plagued Scott Pollard.  And the same comments were being thrown around by I'm sure the same poeple. It's like Deja Vu all over again...........

This roster is more than talented enough to win it all.  The bench might (cause no one knows) be slightly weaker at the start of season but, the starting unit will be much stronger. In the end it will all balance out and all these posts will be forgotten and we can do this all again next year.

[billysan]

My biggest concern is offense off the bench. I had this concern last year, but was happily relieved when Posey and House provided enough. I dont see it this year unless Giddens gets some decent run and can average 7-8 ppg. I dont buy that Powe/Davis give us enough either.

If I could sign one more guy to the minimum I would consider Miles on a make good if he is healthy enough to pass our physical or a shooter like Herrmann since Nachbar is apparently gone.

I hopeful that Tony can give more go-to offense from the bench with longer more regular minutes. Use that excellent ability to get to the rim of his to get some more points.

I hope Tony gives us some offense as well.

The need is a big - but I don't think Danny sees what I see: A foul prone center with a bum shoulder and, ugh, O'Blount.

I agree Coach, and was lobbying for someone earlier. Even Krstic or Kwame Brown, although my preference was Kurt Thomas. I think Danny/Doc actually consider Davis/Powe/Scalabrine as adequate depth for bigs.

It's mind boggling for me to start the season with Perk and O'Bryant as our only two bigs.

I still would like to see more offense off the bench as well.

Didn't we win 66 games last year with basically Powe and Big Baby as our backup bigs...because Pollard was injured for most of the year and PJ didn't contribute much during the regular season. Powe as a starting center in 3 games last year averaged 13 points and 6.7 rebounds...and in 2 games as a starting pf averaged 16 points and 7 rebounds. Unless Perkins goes down for a prolonged period of time, we are fine with our big rotation. This is not the 90s...the are very few true centers to worry about. You can make due with Powe/Big Baby alongside KG most of the time.

You had a pretty good argument going except for one thing. PJ Brown, when we signed him the minutes at center from Scal/Powe/Davis were pretty much gone.

I like Leon as much as the next guy, but as a backup PF not a center. If you look back at those games he started you notice KG covering the opposing center in many cases because the ones that could shoot just shot over Powe.

Point is, Leon started, played very well, but played PF for the most part and KG was the center.

In the playoffs sure, but in the regular season when we won 66 games that wasn't the case. PJ played in 18 regular season games, averaging 11.6 minutes/game, 2.2 points, 3.8 rebounds on 34% shooting. Regular season PJ Brown was pretty bad...he was still extremely rusty and got most of his minutes the last part of the year when we started resting/limiting minutes of the starters. My point is that for the regular season, we are fine with the big man position. For the playoffs, we might need to pick up a vet later in the season depending on the development of the younger big guys and the health of KG/Perk.

We definitely agree then that adding a big with some experience and size come playoff time might just be necessary. You are right about PJ being rusty offensively but I give him a lot of credit for being smart and effective defensively. That IMO was his real value for the most part. TP for you.

[timepiece33]

Michael Finely is a decent defender at this point. His defensive rating and defensive win shares aren't half bad.  As a veteran off the bench, he makes a lot of sense. 

[Green Mountain]

Michael Finely is a decent defender at this point. His defensive rating and defensive win shares aren't half bad.  As a veteran off the bench, he makes a lot of sense. 

I don't know if I buy your defensive argument, but at this point his ability to spread the floor on offense would be extremely valuable.

[timepiece33]

I don't know if I buy your defensive argument, but at this point his ability to spread the floor on offense would be extremely valuable.

He's not Posey, but his defensive play isn't as bad as you are making it out to be. 

[TrueGreen]

I just heard a replay of Danny's interview on WEEI this AM and it sounds like the team is set. I think they are counting on Tony Allen to get Posey's minutes, especially as a perimeter defender. He said he's had no talk about George and Finley's name didn't come up. He's not looking to replace Posey with a similar type of player (of which there are none) and they may have to do something else to defend the bigs that Posey did a good job against. So I don't think we'll see other player moves. They did talk about him going on vacation. He said his family is gone and he expects to leave soon, but has some business to finish up on and mentioned,in passing the coaches. So maybe we'll see something about the assistant coaches in the next few days. But he really didn't mention specifics. If you go to weei.com and look around you can find the interview to download and listen to:
http://audio.weei.com/weei/dennis_and_callahan.htm