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Bring Gomes Back!
« on: July 16, 2008, 10:03:16 PM »

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I have no idea how plausible this request would be, but I'm making the push to bring him back.

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Re: Bring Gomes Back!
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2008, 10:06:14 PM »

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Funny, because if you started this thread right after the KG trade (actually, there were several already) you would be greeted with overwhelming support from practically every Celtic fan.   In fact, the Posey signing was kinda looked at as "bringing in an old version of a poor man's Gomes"   But now everyone is sad about Posey leaving and there isn't that much excitement about a Gomes possibility. 

I missed Gomes when he left.  I'd LOVE to have him back.  He was a solid, productive and intelligent player.  I think he battled for minutes with Powe, but I think he'd be a solid replacement for the guy who replaced him.

But it sounds like Minni will match any offer Gomes gets.   He was pretty effective last year.  12.6 points, 5.8 rebounds, 46% shooting and started 74 games for them.  Not sure what his role will be with Kevin Love on board now.

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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2008, 10:11:36 PM »

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I think it would be dumb not to make an offer.  He could be a great role player on a good team!

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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2008, 10:13:20 PM »

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While your at it, give DWest a maderate offer too!!  He'd be great to back Rondo up.

Hey, worst case scenario we would force the Cavs to spend more money!!!

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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2008, 10:13:22 PM »

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It's the D that's going to be tough to replace from Posey.  Gomes can handle putting the ball in the hole, but could he learn to be a stopper on D?  Could he learn to give good hugs?
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2008, 10:14:34 PM »

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I'd take back him or Delonte (or both) in a heart beat.  But both were starters for their respective teams and it's unlikely we could sign either. 

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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2008, 10:15:13 PM »

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It's the D that's going to be tough to replace from Posey.  Gomes can handle putting the ball in the hole, but could he learn to be a stopper on D?  Could he learn to give good hugs?

I think Posey was a good defender made great by the system.  Let's hold on to Tommy Thibs and plug in Ryan!!

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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2008, 10:19:36 PM »

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It's the D that's going to be tough to replace from Posey.  Gomes can handle putting the ball in the hole, but could he learn to be a stopper on D?  Could he learn to give good hugs?

I think Posey was a good defender made great by the system.  Let's hold on to Tommy Thibs and plug in Ryan!!
Posey was competent out there, but I wouldn't really say he was "all defense" worthy or anything.  I was a little disappointed with some of his man-on-man defense.  He fit the system, but I think finding a replacement isn't as daunting as people make it out to be.

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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2008, 10:20:06 PM »

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I'd take back him or Delonte (or both) in a heart beat.  But both were starters for their respective teams and it's unlikely we could sign either. 

DWest was a starter, but the Cavs just gave Boobie a 5 year contract w/ starter money.  And the question and answers w/ Danny Ferry on hoopshype.com/rumors makes me think Ferry isnt sure West will be back.


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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2008, 10:23:44 PM »

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It's the D that's going to be tough to replace from Posey.  Gomes can handle putting the ball in the hole, but could he learn to be a stopper on D?  Could he learn to give good hugs?

I think Posey was a good defender made great by the system.  Let's hold on to Tommy Thibs and plug in Ryan!!
Posey was competent out there, but I wouldn't really say he was "all defense" worthy or anything.  I was a little disappointed with some of his man-on-man defense.  He fit the system, but I think finding a replacement isn't as daunting as people make it out to be.

No doubt the system helped him, and he was certainly not immune to some lapses on D, but I've said it a gazillion times, when you think back to the times when the Celtics were playing the kind of smothering D that made the opponent look completely out of sorts, Posey was omnipresent.
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2008, 10:24:27 PM »

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It's the D that's going to be tough to replace from Posey.  Gomes can handle putting the ball in the hole, but could he learn to be a stopper on D?  Could he learn to give good hugs?

I think Posey was a good defender made great by the system.  Let's hold on to Tommy Thibs and plug in Ryan!!
Posey was competent out there, but I wouldn't really say he was "all defense" worthy or anything.  I was a little disappointed with some of his man-on-man defense.  He fit the system, but I think finding a replacement isn't as daunting as people make it out to be.

yea but about that all-defense list... kobe bryant, 1st team all defense? what?

posey was more of a team defender than a one on one. and I think that cliff ray will improve gomes even more than he did before. he can even play the 3/4 positions, much like posey.

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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2008, 10:26:34 PM »

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It's the D that's going to be tough to replace from Posey.  Gomes can handle putting the ball in the hole, but could he learn to be a stopper on D?  Could he learn to give good hugs?

I think Posey was a good defender made great by the system.  Let's hold on to Tommy Thibs and plug in Ryan!!
Posey was competent out there, but I wouldn't really say he was "all defense" worthy or anything.  I was a little disappointed with some of his man-on-man defense.  He fit the system, but I think finding a replacement isn't as daunting as people make it out to be.

No doubt the system helped him, and he was certainly not immune to some lapses on D, but I've said it a gazillion times, when you think back to the times when the Celtics were playing the kind of smothering D that made the opponent look completely out of sorts, Posey was omnipresent.

Thanks to KG omnipotence and rondos omni-speed (ok I made that up)

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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2008, 10:29:36 PM »

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rondo likes to gamble on defense too much with his steals. worked out in game 6, but usually leads to blow bys and foul trouble.

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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2008, 10:30:26 PM »

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Gomes can't fill the defensive void, but who can?  He would be a great role player off the bench, same definition that you would give Posey.  I'd love to see him back.  Great role player, great character. 
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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2008, 10:32:12 PM »

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It's the D that's going to be tough to replace from Posey.  Gomes can handle putting the ball in the hole, but could he learn to be a stopper on D?  Could he learn to give good hugs?

I think Posey was a good defender made great by the system.  Let's hold on to Tommy Thibs and plug in Ryan!!
Posey was competent out there, but I wouldn't really say he was "all defense" worthy or anything.  I was a little disappointed with some of his man-on-man defense.  He fit the system, but I think finding a replacement isn't as daunting as people make it out to be.

No doubt the system helped him, and he was certainly not immune to some lapses on D, but I've said it a gazillion times, when you think back to the times when the Celtics were playing the kind of smothering D that made the opponent look completely out of sorts, Posey was omnipresent.

Thanks to KG omnipotence and rondos omni-speed (ok I made that up)

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