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Re: Kirk Snyder to Boston?
« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2008, 02:08:38 PM »

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if he's so great, then why doesn't any of his prior teams lock him up in a deal?

(there's an obvious answer...)

  By that logic, how was Posey available in late August last year?

Well, there's a difference between teams not giving Posey a full MLE deal last year, and Snyder playing for four teams in four years.  Very few players like that are going to be contributors on a championship team (although we found one of those rare ones last season in Eddie House.)

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Re: Kirk Snyder to Boston?
« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2008, 02:09:00 PM »

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KIRK SNYDER? Noway! This guy has been tossed around to even out salary trades for 3 different teams in less than 2 seasons...He might be a good guy in the locker room, or even in practice, but not in an actual game. We need a shooter that can play D. Doug Christie anyone?

What ever happened to Doug Christie? Did his wife tell him he's not allowed to play basketball anymore (I remember him for being one of the most whipped men in the history of the world and for great defense).
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Re: Kirk Snyder to Boston?
« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2008, 02:11:07 PM »

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At worst he's TA without the horrible knee injuries. He's veteran minimum player to push Giddens and sit at the end of the bench.

Re: Kirk Snyder to Boston?
« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2008, 02:13:23 PM »

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I just hope this is plan z. 

Re: Kirk Snyder to Boston?
« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2008, 02:23:50 PM »

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I just hope this is plan z. 
We have no money to spend. Welcome to a champion's offseason.

Re: Kirk Snyder to Boston?
« Reply #35 on: July 10, 2008, 02:27:05 PM »

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RonJohn,

Your point about Snyder shooting @21% free three is really inaccurate.  Look at the ENTIRE picture for his career.  He took about 250 three-point shots in his first two seasons and averaged shooting 35.5%!!!  He ONLY took 67 three-point attempts in his last two years and avg. @23.5%.  I would feel much more comfortable looking at two seasons where he averaged 125 attempts than two seasons where he ONLY averaged 33.5 attempts.

If I am not mistaken, Snyder was known as an outside markman in college an Nevada-Reno.  I could be wrong on that.

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Re: Kirk Snyder to Boston?
« Reply #36 on: July 10, 2008, 02:31:24 PM »

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RonJohn,

Your point about Snyder shooting @21% free three is really inaccurate.  Look at the ENTIRE picture for his career.  He took about 250 three-point shots in his first two seasons and averaged shooting 35.5%!!!  He ONLY took 67 three-point attempts in his last two years and avg. @23.5%.  I would feel much more comfortable looking at two seasons where he averaged 125 attempts than two seasons where he ONLY averaged 33.5 attempts.

If I am not mistaken, Snyder was known as an outside markman in college an Nevada-Reno.  I could be wrong on that.

Smitty

If 21% is what he shot last year, then it's not inaccurate. Maybe misleading by your argument but not inaccurate.

I respect that you'd prefer to look at his seasons with 125 attempts, but I'd personally prefer to look at his more recent history - which is 23.5% over two seasons.
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Re: Kirk Snyder to Boston?
« Reply #37 on: July 10, 2008, 02:34:03 PM »

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I just hope this is plan z. 
We have no money to spend. Welcome to a champion's offseason.


They have money to spend.  That's why plan A is resign Posey.

Re: Kirk Snyder to Boston?
« Reply #38 on: July 10, 2008, 02:39:18 PM »

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Paintitgreen,

Inaccurate might NOT have been the correct choice of a word.  How about misleading.  It is very hard to get in a rhythm shooting less than 34 attempts for an entire year. Also, Snyder's Efficiency Rating for the year was almost equivalent to Posey's.  I am NOT saying that he is equivalent to Posey's ability to perform at prime time, but he is younger and will be much cheaper, allowing us to spend more money finding a back up center and PG.

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Re: Kirk Snyder to Boston?
« Reply #39 on: July 10, 2008, 02:45:15 PM »

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I just hope this is plan z. 
We have no money to spend. Welcome to a champion's offseason.


They have money to spend.  That's why plan A is resign Posey.

The MLE is not money. It's the equivalent of change you find in your couch. Money is what you have when your below the salary cap.

Re: Kirk Snyder to Boston?
« Reply #40 on: July 10, 2008, 05:39:22 PM »

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Minnesota got him in a trade for Gerald Green.  That alone could be an omen.

I am not sure if I have ever seen him play so I don't have much else to go on.  He is already 25 so if he has something to show, time is running out.

Re: Kirk Snyder to Boston?
« Reply #41 on: July 10, 2008, 06:42:08 PM »

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Obviously most people on this thread aren't too familiar with Kirk Snyder. He's definitely a downgrade to Posey. If Danny thinks highly of him, why not? We have enough three point shooter for now, and will probably resign House. From the highlights he looks like a good slasher, and plays good D. I seriously don't understand how Danny Ainge does it.

Re: Kirk Snyder to Boston?
« Reply #42 on: July 10, 2008, 09:07:39 PM »

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I live in Nevada. I watched Kirk for 4 years.  The one thing everyone who is deriding him might not be aware of is his heart and willingness to do whatever he is asked. Some of you guys amaze me here.  You have no idea about a player but because he has been around a bit and hasn't signed a huge contract anywhere you basically assume he has no positive traits.  Ainge seems to have seen something.  But if I remember correctly some here thought Ainge should have been sent packing too.  Patience is a virtue.

Re: Kirk Snyder to Boston?
« Reply #43 on: July 10, 2008, 09:51:17 PM »

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I live in Nevada. I watched Kirk for 4 years.  The one thing everyone who is deriding him might not be aware of is his heart and willingness to do whatever he is asked. Some of you guys amaze me here.  You have no idea about a player but because he has been around a bit and hasn't signed a huge contract anywhere you basically assume he has no positive traits.  Ainge seems to have seen something.  But if I remember correctly some here thought Ainge should have been sent packing too.  Patience is a virtue.

This isn't college, buddy.  It's great to hear that Snyder showed a lot of heart in college, but so what?  The guy has been passed around the league Gerald Green style, (which doesn't necessarily mean he can't play) but to me doesn't have one standout, top notch NBA skill (he does have standout athletic ability). 

To me, Tony Allen has standout NBA skills in two areas.  He can move his feet and defend on the perimeter very well, and he can drive to the hoop off the dribble well (when he doesn't overdribble).  If the choice is between TA and Snyder, I'm taking TA every single time.  I expect him to get healthier and become an effective and useful role player in the league. 

Re: Kirk Snyder to Boston?
« Reply #44 on: July 10, 2008, 11:06:12 PM »

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You must be unfamiliar with Snyder BUDDY!  One thing is for sure Allen has been in the eye of Celtic fans. You are familiar with him.  How much have you watched Snyder?  Ainge knows something.  And you can believe it or not but college play matters like at every level.  I think maybe Thibedeux is in on this too.  All I'm saying is that the Celts could do worse>